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trippysht
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posted November 05, 2002 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trippysht     Edit/Delete Message
its really weird, i started reading Gooberz about 3 weeks ago. and this past weekend i put up this little celtic print of a unicorn and these funny trees of my mother's that i remember from childhood. i just finished the book yesterday, and i read that UNICORNS ARE BAD?! ive never been really into them or anything, but its very strange that i became attracted to this thing enough to hang it up like 2 days before hearing that they lull my poor girlie mind out of awareness, keeping me asleep. i cant take it down. any thoughts?

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Comis Scriptor
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posted November 05, 2002 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comis Scriptor     Edit/Delete Message
Hey, yeah... this is something I've always wondered about since first reading Star Signs back in 1987... anybody out there have some idea???? Your insight is greatly appreciated

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shamrock227
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posted November 05, 2002 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shamrock227     Edit/Delete Message
oh yeeeaaahhhh. I forgot about that. What was it exactly that made them bad? I'll have to dig around and try to remember.

It's a real shame since I unicorns and have a unique unicorn collection.

They can't be bad **pout, pout, pout** after all, they're only horseys with a horn

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trippysht
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posted November 05, 2002 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trippysht     Edit/Delete Message
locating a part in gooberz....
HERE! its when she's talking to the Heathcliff guru in her dream, he tells her that some of linda's worrying FEARS were dreams that were really dreams of no substance, or NIGHT MARES, seeded by the "subtle and sinister Unicorn with its phallic symbol horn of the deceptive Uni-sex"... that "singing dreams of inspiration and true prophecy borne to the Soul upon the wings of the Pegesus" (not Pegasus), "the Unicorn is a powerful force for deception in that dark world of sleep...over this twilight world, he reigns supreme and is often painted or depicted near a sleeping maiden who embraces him, in her innorcence... and ignorance for the Unicorn's midnight mission has ever been to lull... and keep ... each feminine 'I' asleep and unaware... unawakened to the glory of her true destiny and hidden powers"

i'm not aware of where she mentions Unicorns in Star Signs, but has anyone heard further on this topic? this is all it says in Gooberz hmmmmm.

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shamrock227
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posted November 06, 2002 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shamrock227     Edit/Delete Message
I flipped through Gooberz last night. I found the passage trippysht mentions and then another 2 pages on unicorns later in the Canto.

It was funny. I've never been able to read Gooberz before, so I had no personal knowledge of where these passages were and I just opened right up to within a couple pages of the right one. Linda must have opened it for me

I'm at work right now, so I don't have the book with me, but when I get home tonight I will try to at least give you the page numbers of the other passages.

It really made me sad. I really do love unicorns. But (at the risk of getting yelled at ) I'm not sure Linda was right about that. She could be. It doesn't ring false with me, but it doesn't ring true either -- reading the passages rang a great big grey ? - something to consider, but I'm not so sure, yet.

While I was in there, I skimmed some other passages. The whole of the passages I was skimming broke my heart. Reading about the kitties dying, and her mailing the letters in the oak tree, and Emilie. I now know why Linda chose to leave this incarnation. She suffered so much loss. Linda "died" of a finally broken heart and spirit. That she kept herself bound to this plane as long as she did is testament to the fact that she was stronger of spirit than anyone I can imagine. I cried and cried last night while I read.

Sorry - that was a major hijack....

I'll get those pages tonight if no one beats me to it....

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StarLover33
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posted November 06, 2002 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
No do not say she had a brocken heart or spirit, she was simply tired! She was a tired woman who CHOSE not to go on!
-Don't worry she will incarnate once more!

-Another thing YES Unicorns are bad! There made to be loved and wanted. They symbolize deception and clouded vision.
-If any of you ever watched Ally Mcbeal...there this is a whole episode talking about a Unicorn she saw in her dream! Thats a perfect example of how a Unicorn is descepitive.

-Oh yes I remember having around me a Unicorn Beanie Baby that I loved, then I realized how clouded vision my had become.

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shamrock227
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posted November 06, 2002 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shamrock227     Edit/Delete Message
Found them. There's one paragraph in the middle of Page 904. Then pgs 1007 - 1010.

StarLover, maybe "tired" is a better word. Maybe it was my heart that broke for her. The anguish I felt from her words was terrible. She had so much pain in her life. She was so strong for so long - I hope that some day in some life I would have that kind of strength and resolve. And, I knOw she chose to go - I fully believe in her, and our, immortality. I just hope that in her next incarnation she choses an easier path for herself - she certainly deserves it.

Maybe I'm completely dense - but I still don't get what's wrong with the unicorn. How does it cloud our vision? How does it keep us from "awakening" and opening our third eye? Why would it do that? What does it have against us? She seems to address them all as he, but if they are then how can they be Night Mares?(nitpicky, I know). Even if they are the deliverers of bad dreams, how is that really hurting us?- scary and alarming at the time, to be sure, but it's not really hurting us. Why is a unicorn bad but the pegesus good - aren't they basically the same thing - horseys, one with a horn and one with wings? And, on the flip side - how does the pegesus help us awaken and realize our mission?

A lot of questions, I know, and I'm sorry, but I am completely (which is not an unusual state for me )
I'm not doubting Linda - she was right about so many things that I'd be hard pressed to do that. And, I'm really, really not trying to argue (I know it may look like that with that string of questions and I apologize - but I'm really not trying to be argumentative ). But, I'm just one of those people that has to knOw it for myself before I take it as truth.

I leave it to you lovely knOwflakes to help enlighten this dense fishy

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shamrock227
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posted November 06, 2002 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shamrock227     Edit/Delete Message
WOW and Holy Cow!
Check this out!
our YIVY did the most incredible inspired lexi on "The Unicorn Story"
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000128.html

That really helped alot in clearing things up for me. But, personally, I'd still like to hear what the rest of you think.

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eternal
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posted November 07, 2002 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eternal     Edit/Delete Message
Unicorns...

I can look back upon when I was a wee-one and see the "possibility" of why Linda may have channeled this information.

I had an experience...

I re-member having this Unicorn mobile above my bed and a poster of a unicorn on my wall. My nightmares were frequent as my mom recalls. My most signifigant memory of the unicorn:

I woke up from a nightmare, frightened in a cold sweat. I then turned to look at my picture on the wall. THE UNICORN IN THE POSTER LOOKED UP AT ME, THEN WALKED ACROSS THE FIELD INTO THE DARKNESS OF THE FOREST. It freaked me out so bad I tore down the poster and the mobile. Years later, working at a Print Shop, a fellow employee and I were having a wonderful conversation. The subject of unicorns came up somehow... she told me she wasn't too crazy about them. I asked her why. Her answer... she had one move in a picture she had upon the wall!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was like . I then told her of my experience and then shared with her what Linda wrote in Gooberz. She said instinctively she new something "was up" with that 'ole unicorn!

I did some research on the one-horned creature, and I found that back in antiquity the unicorn was associated with poison, pain and death... however too, purity, life and healing. It was called a "beast" in India.

With Linda saying the mare was a "he" and not a "she" makes you wonder...

Who created the uni-corn? Since we are all powerful gods and goddesses and a certain one was mighty powerful, up there equal with his brother Osiris, could he have???... I mean, it has been recorded that scientists of today have created insects out of the "thin air" with certain inharmonious chords(vibrations) and such.

That horn seems to be a phallic symbol... and you know, that was the one missing piece Isis had to find in order to put back together, to re-member her beloved.

Also, I find it interesting that the ones who took it upon themselves to "edit" the Bible of ancient times, and leave the magic of astrology and other gifts out, left the mentionings of the unicorn in.

Just another "hhhmmm"....

me wonders...

eternal

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Comis Scriptor
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posted November 07, 2002 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comis Scriptor     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, Eternal, that is one jaw-dropping story!

Thank you to everyone who's contributed to this thread... it's really enlightened me!
:-)

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Heavens Child
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posted November 08, 2002 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heavens Child     Edit/Delete Message
It has a lot to do with those pointed twisted things on their heads,which are like massive 3rd eyes Just looking to coil and curl up and
around the unsuspecting druid while alluring you away into a World of sleep in the process

T`is the Unicorn that says ..
"Meet me tonight in Dreamland"

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Heavens Child
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posted November 08, 2002 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heavens Child     Edit/Delete Message
I`m reminded so much of DearNepthys

The Unicorn will take you away to another place,maybe a dangerous place,but eventually you wont notice

Stick with the Horse
Solid as a Rock
If less fun

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posted December 03, 2002 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 108     Edit/Delete Message
hi all,

I;m probably wrong, but isn't the male "unicorn" called a nightmare, while female ones are called "unicorn"? This may explains why Lina referred to "mare" as a he? I think unicorns are good and nightmares are bad, perhaps?

Also, can you tell me more about how scientists managed to create insects out of thin air? I'm most intrigued by this. Many thanks.

Cheers.
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Sheaa Olein
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posted September 06, 2004 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
OHHH Boy.. I wasn't aware of the whole Unicorn thing!!? Wow - did anyone else know this? I don't recall reading it in Gooberz either.. To be honest I'm a little disturbed by it.. I used to see them as enchanted fantasy horses & never had bad experiences with them

Does anyone know if they existed for definite? I mean as pictured - a horse with a horn? Also, if they are 'bad' symbols - what was the purpose of creating the beautiful fantasy image - what purpose would it serve? I was shocked by eternal's experience too!

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sesame
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posted September 06, 2004 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for bringing this up! Yeah, I loved eternal's posts, many insights. I remember the stuff about the unicorn. I think the fantasy stuff is the point - to lure you in. Then the unicorns seed, or become, night mares. I think part of the point was with Pegesus. We are meant to re-member Pegesus and for-get the unicorn. When you think about it, the pegesus really is beuatiful without the frills, while the unicorn was always surrounded by dark blue and unusual worlds - probably places it takes you to frighten and lose you. However the Pegesus was white and plain, but beautiful. Snow white without frills. Also protective and noble. I don't know, these are just some thoughts.

Dean.

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mystical rainbow
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posted September 08, 2004 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mystical rainbow     Edit/Delete Message
hello,

i was reaing thru the comments and something did ring true and some didnot...

anyways..here are couple of websites about unicorn and it says why the unicorns are featured near maidian..it says..only true noble virgin can touch the horn..now it all boils down to..wht noble????

well happy reading..i liked the articles...

and tell me wht u all think of it.

mystic rain
http://members.shaw.ca/unicornhaven/UnicornHistory.html
http://monsters.monstrous.com/unicorns.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/1272/unicorn.html

mystic rain

p.s- i thought of pastin the whole info without u all having to use the link but..then i thougth i will be taking advantage of somebody's hard work. and the websites are pretty cool....

rainbow..

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Irish Eyes
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posted September 08, 2004 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Irish Eyes     Edit/Delete Message
I find all of this interesting. Personlly I have never given this subject much thought.

The unicorn always made me uneasy...but I always figured it was because a friend of mine's mother was really into her collection of unicorn things and odd occurances happened in their house.

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Gia
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posted September 08, 2004 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
It is funny how things change due to way we perceive them is it not? We make our world up with thoughts. We create daily powerful elementals that then haunt us. How sad that is.

In ancient times the unicorn was very favoured indeed, especially in India, China and Mesopitonia. It was never an imaginary mythical animal, but a living, breathing physical animal that although very elusive, could be hunted.

The Greeks have written quite extensively on the unicorn "The Monokeros" which when translated, means only one horn. They describe it as a splendid animal. It was as white as pure snow and had deep sapphire blue eyes.

The ancients thought it was a Pagan God in goat form, a half man half beast called a Satyr. This is where it got it's demonic reputation. Most undeserved. I'm totally aware of what Linda said, however, I'm afraid I think she was wrong on this one.

In ancient times the unicorn was hunted to extinction. In the dark ages, in mediveal times, knights would go off on long quests in the hope of finding one. It had a reputation of great healing and it was said both in China, Greece and throughout Asia, that a unicorn's horn is what contained it's amazing power.

Did you know we had a kind of horn? One that is in the centre of our brain. Actually in the centre of the hippocampus. It is an organ we call the 'Ammons Horn?' It is a place of higher consciousness and memory. Just a snippet of information that may give some of you food for thought.

The unicorn was never killed as it was prized beyond gold. It was instead imprisoned for life. This cruelty resulted in it's death after only a few years in captivity.

It was said that whilst you kept this animal in your home, palace, community, good fortune followed you. People touched the unicorns tusk and were automatically healed of incurable sickness. It was thought to be a magic creature. It gave of it's energy until it was spent and then it died.

It brings tears to my eyes, even now to see a mediveal tapestry dipicting unicorns surrounded by cages. These were such magnificient and intelligent animals. Look at some of the most famous English and Flemmish ancient tapestries. They are almost always dipicted as caged or imprisoned.

They were gentle and kind. They had intellect and great consciousness, that I guess I would liken to the dolphin. I am heartbroken that people think the unicorn is evil. We are often the evil ones. We take something good and twist it until we make it bad. Perhaps it is fitting to our karma that we now fear them. Perhaps they stimulate a memory of some kind in us.

The word 'nightmare' comes from the Anglo Saxon definition of nicht- which means night
and mara - which means sea iccubus. What was that I said about the dolphin?

Nightmares, bridges of the conscious and the unconscious, the Ammon horn? Hmmmmm. I think we should all meditate on that one for a bit.

Revelation 19.11

"And I saw the heaven opened, and behold a white horse and he that sat on him was called faithful and true."

Gia


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Sheaa Olein
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posted September 28, 2004 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Gia

Most comforting - I didn't think my radar could be off about these creatures I love horses so unicorns have been a natural progression for me since a child, hence me being shocked at Linda's interpretation.

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Aphrodite Moon
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posted September 30, 2004 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite Moon     Edit/Delete Message
"Also, I find it interesting that the ones who took it upon themselves to "edit" the Bible of ancient times, and leave the magic of astrology and other gifts out, left the mentionings of the unicorn in."

This is interesting, could you explain this a little more in detail (or refer me to a link?)

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