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theFajita
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posted January 27, 2003 09:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Pearly! I am here! I don't see your email so I'll put it here
btw thank you thank you thank you thank you!


Born Feb. 11, 1981

It might have been a few minutes later is that OK???

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pearly
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posted January 28, 2003 02:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Got it Danita (saw that this was your nickname in another post )

You can take it down now if you want. I'm not sure why my email wasn't visible.... hmmmm.

Take care, I'll keep you posted

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posted January 28, 2003 03:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message
AWESOME Pearly!!

Yep you can call me Danita the Fajita

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posted January 28, 2003 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Aphrodite, mercury the magician I think is the key to understanding one foot in the spiritual realm and one foot in the material realm ( I forget the exact saying of this).
I believe Mercury has something to do with parallel living.
You have gemini in your 12th house which means that communication can be psychic and of your past life, mercury 12th house ruler in 10th house is your career, so this haunting communication could show up in the career part of your life, Psychic, unconscious sublimnal messages here.
Mercury in Aries is the beginning (initiating)of this communication from working with the projection ( conjunct venus)of your belief (trining Jupiter) in past (sextile Moon) pastlife messaging coming throught the channel of your at peaceful, inner tuned emotions at work (Moon in Capricorn). This music could mean the etheral music that you are creating because you are in harmony with your office and your work is quite literal.
You've picked up on this because u are the sensitive conductor of your emotions and you are communicating this to yourself.

This may sound kind of an airy fairy way to look at it but what do u think, does this resonate at all?

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pearly
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posted January 29, 2003 06:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi Everyone

Quinnie : You said: "You know I think if we're talking music of the spheres I would say the conductor would be the Planet saturn, through Saturn there is structure to sounds and time...rhthym and beat to music."

How do you think that would apply to "composing" someone's chart? I have my own ideas about it, but I'd like to get other points of view...

Also, thanks for starting this topic

Apollo : You are right! It may take more than one try .... when I am done with Danita's, I will try yours if you still want.

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pearly
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posted January 29, 2003 06:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Btw- Apollo: Maybe you should try one yourself... it is so cool that you are a musician, I bet if you put your mind and talent to it you could do it!

Also, about your aversion to vibrato! I like some vibrato depending on the type...for example, when it is not classical (violins mostly) or opera.

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posted January 30, 2003 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Pearly I don't know much about the practical application of the composition of music or the composing of it, so I would say you would know better than I about what kind of beat and rhythm should be used according to the natal saturn placement.
I would use saturn as the timer as such, the beat and speed etc. of the music will come from Saturn...The form and tempo, for example should it be fast music or slow and in which parts. The warmth also. If you imagine that your in your body blood comes from saturn and was created in Saturns conditions then you can apply that to music also, how warm the music should be. The rhythm, structure of the music, endurance etc. should come from Saturn who directs the course.
I'm not exactly sure how to answer this though.

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Aphrodite
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posted January 31, 2003 01:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message
hi quinnie, what an interesting way to look at it! thank you! i am not sure of how to make sense of what you wrote at this very moment, but it is in my thoughts. i do feel comfortable at work, and don't feel scared at all when the music plays. through the years, i have searched for validation of my experiences . . . and you can imagine the looks on faces when they have absolutely no clue about what i'm talking about and think i've gone nuts. it gets disconcerting and confusing when there isn't some form of conscious validation somewhere, at least for me, because i know somewhere that there is a logic to all the things we innately, yet make no literal sense in the material world. this thread is one of those validations! thanks for starting it!!! aphrodite

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posted January 31, 2003 01:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message
hi again quinnie, just a thought and an agreement with you that perhaps the music is indeed a form of validation of mysELF communicating back to me. wow! what a break through! i am so happy. aphrodite

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pearly
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posted January 31, 2003 02:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I love your answer, Quinnie! Thanks for your input, I see what you are saying. I think it is interesting the way you linked Saturn with blood and warmth... never thought of that, but I like it! I guess it all depends on the aspect it is making.

So, I have a question for you... what made you want to ask about the "music of the spheres"?


(*waves* to Aphrodite. Hi there )

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posted January 31, 2003 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
I guess the reason I asked about the music of the Spheres is the very reason you replied.... to see if if anyone was thinking about it in the same way I was and also to see if anyone had tried to compose someone's chart like Linda talked about.... I think this must be the most healing of all, to hear your own music.
And I wonder when u hear the music created by artists today is it coming from their own chart music and they don't even realise it consciously.
Maybe its my own need to hear the music of my chart that made me ask the question. I don't know much about music about I have written a few songs n my guitar and wondered where they came from.
The answer I posted about Saturn is probably not even touching what Saturn means to music.
I always felt those rings had something to do with it though and when Lp records were used they used to remind me of Saturn's rings for some reason... but can u share your idea of what you think Saturn's rule is in music?

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posted January 31, 2003 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Aphrodite it could also be a past life thing too. Maybe u are hearing the music from a past life.... try doing a meditation to ask or ordain that Next time you hear it at work you will understand it's message or where it comes from.

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pearly
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posted February 03, 2003 02:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi Quinnie

Ooops, sorry, got busy for a minute there ... anyway

Like you, I have always felt that the music someone creates or likes to listen to definitely must correlate to the music vibrations of their particular chart. Some sounds, chords, rhythms, and instruments even, will appeal to you more than others. I guess that is good, as everybody's taste will be as diverse as thier charts!

As far as the actual interpretation is concerned, when I think about composing a chart it seems logical to me to work through the houses starting with the first. For instance, you could compose segments based on all the forces, elements and aspects in a particular house and then segue to the next. In the end you would have a sort of musical chart or story of that person and each segment would relate directly to a particular area of one's life. For example, 1st House-personal, 4th House-family/home, 7th house-marriage/parnerships, etc... and you could keep it simple or get really deep into the house, depending on what kind of "reading" it is. All the planets and aspects in each house would determine it's "feel" and musical mood, as well as chords and melody.


Also, I feel like there are probably many other ways to do it as well and I want to try different approaches. I suppose another way would be to find all the chords in the chart represented by a mix of aspects and houses and then play them over a somewhat set background that would consist of all the major musical attributes of each of the person's planets. For instance, we would then base the whole rhythm on Saturn and Mars, mood on Moon and Venus, complexity on Merc, power on Pluto etc. etc.. In this way you could probably get a general sense of a person as a whole and it wouldn't be so focused on the actual chart or story.

Ah, such a lot to go ponder!

Well, let me know if you decide to try to work on your chart with your guitar. That is so cool that you play! When I finish Danitas and possibly Apollo's (Apollo? You around? ) I would love to try yours too if you don't mind. Also, it is interesting to think that even though chords and influences would likely be the same between two musical interpretations of the same chart, the actual delivery would be unique to the individual who produces it...
so, with Danita's chart it will be "An Aquarius chart produced by a Pisces" (as a generic title ) but I bet a Libra or Sag would have a different way of looking at it.... I wonder....

Well, take care! Talk to you soon!

Pearl

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posted February 04, 2003 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Pearly you're making total sense about how to go about composing it and yes I agree that the sound will be slightly different when one person creates someone's chart music and then someone else does the same.

Yeah I will definitely have a go at putting music to my chart and you can try my chart if u want to. thanks I'd love that!
Take care too Pearly Have fun with the music

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pearly
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posted February 09, 2003 02:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Quinnie

Hi, just wanted to let you know about a tidbit of info I recently ran into regarding the music of the planets...

I have a cd called the Delta Synch Sleep System that uses musical soundscapes to deliver Delta waves to your brain which will make you relax and sleep deeper. Anyway, I was reading the info booklet and it said that some of the sounds used in the soundscapes are from natural and primal sources (like human body sounds, nature, etc), well, one of the other sounds used are from NASA, acquired when Voyager took a trip and recorded the actual sounds that the outer planets make. I have never heard of these recordings or heard them isolated, but it seems like they would be a nice thing to hear... I'm gonna try to find out more about the recordings. I'll let you know if I find anything.

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posted February 09, 2003 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
Pearly please do,I wonder what kind of effect it would have apart from relaxing effect...sounds from beyond our atmosphere being sounded within our own hemisphere.
Now that we can begin to resonate to earth music perhaps this will take us beyond if we meditate to it.

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MARY
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posted October 20, 2004 11:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message

I found it!!!!!!!!!! I have been looking for this all day.
The new knowflakes really should read this.
I was gone for a while, there are a lot of new people..
Love and Light,

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posted October 22, 2004 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message

I always wondered about the experiment Linda talked of with red, iron, C-major etc. I'd love to see that experiment being carried out. I also wonder how pearly's going with her compositions?

And where is eternal?

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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posted October 22, 2004 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message
Has anyone heard of Steven Halpern? He released an album called Zodiac Suite.

"A NOTE FROM THE COMPOSER ...
From ancient times, man has sought to hear the concordance of harmonies suggested by the motion of the stars and planets - the "Music of the Spheres". My intuitive sense is that such 'timeless' music, like that which is heard on this album, will evoke that same quality in each of us. It is to this end that this album is dedicated."


It really is quite beautiful, unfortunately I only have it on vinyl and my record player broke a while back.

Here is his list of signs and keynotes:
Aries - C
*Taurus - C#
Gemini - D
*Cancer - Eb
Leo - E
Virgo - F
*Libra - F#
Scorpio - G
*Sagittarius - Ab
Capricorn - A
*Aquarius - Bb
Pisces - B

*Please excuse my lower case b as a symbol for a flat and the number symbol # for a sharp.

He also has four other songs on here entitled, Blues for Arcturus, Sky Boat Theme, Moonrise over Orion, and The Heard Eye.


Oh, yes, later on the back cover it says, "Moreover, the arrangement of selections and frequency-specific keynotes on Side 1 lends itself to a visualization/meditation on the signs of the Zodiac. Listeners report that this astrological attunement helps to bring one's entire chart into greater alignment.
This is not without historical precedent. For centuries, researchers have noted teh relationship between the 12 keynotes of the musical octave and the twelve signs of the zodiac. The message might well be: 'If we can but find the proper key, we can play ourselves like the strings of a cosmic harp - and tune into the music of our universal nature.'"


For those of you unfamiliar with musical scales, the notes follow the order of the key of C, starting with Aries at the note of C and progressing in half steps.


I wonder if the Sun Sign or the Ascendant represents the "key" you're in in this life. Perhaps it depends on your frequency? You start at your Sun Sign key but can move up to your Ascendant key? I say this in regards to the idea that the Ascendant represents your true individuality, ie, your Higher S-elf and the ray under which s/he operates. I'm not sure if that applies in all cases or in any cases, just a theory I came across that interested me.
12 signs, 12 houses, 12 planets and luminaries (eventually with Vulcan and Pan Horus) and 12 basic keynotes ... I would think that logically your Ascendant would represent the key you're in in this life as it's the start of your chart. It makes sense to me anyway. My absolute favorite song is Serenade No. 10 in Bb by Mozart, it gives me chills, and my Ascendant is Aquarius which corresponds to Bb. I just wish I could unravel how the planet/sign interaction would occur ... say, Sun in Virgo ... the Sun would be E (leo) while Virgo is F and there's no half step to compromise upon. Hmmmm ... though I do suspect the aspects formed would create either harmonious or inharmonious chords, not to mention the transits ... but how? Perhaps the Sun would lead the main melody or theme? <sigh>


Okay, please, please excuse my rambling ...

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posted November 19, 2004 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fishtail     Edit/Delete Message

Not sure about the ascendant being your higher S-elf, but i do know i act calmer than the other aries fren of mine.. heh.. I have a Capricorn ascendant.

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Imagine hearing your own music that u created in your chart.

This is a beautiful thread

I often hear music before I go to sleep, but because usually they occur when I'm really sleepy, I don't bother recording them. With the lyrics, usually they come after I wake up, and this is a bit easier to handle as I have a dream journal.

Might put more effort into recording the music, as I'm sure they are enjoyable songs.

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-- David Lynch

Artists need silence because inspiration arises from silence. I've not experienced it yet to the extent I'd like to experience it, but it seems to grow in you if you pay attention to it.
-- Phylicia Rashad, actress

There's nothing like music to relieve the soul and uplift it.
-- Mickey Hart

Life is part positive and part negative. Suppose you went to hear a symphony orchestra and all they played were the little, happy, high notes? Would you leave soon? Let me hear the rumble of the bass, the crash of the cymbals, and the minor keys.
-- Jim Rohn

The memory of things gone is important to a jazz musician. Things like old folks singing in the moonlight in the back yard on a hot night or something said long ago.
-- Louis Armstrong

I love hymns and gospel music, but the idea of turning your music into a tool for evangelism is missing the point.
-- Bono

If you practice an art, be proud of it and make it proud of you. ...It may break your heart, but it will fill your heart before it breaks it: It will make you a person in your own right.
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Every man's work, whether it be literature or music or pictures or anything else, is always a portrait of himself, and the more he tries to conceal himself the more clearly will his character appear in spite of him.
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posted October 28, 2010 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message
I just found this thread in the archives.... Does anyone have any idea how to compose an astrological piece of music?

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posted November 03, 2010 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emitres     Edit/Delete Message
what an incredibly fascinating thread...

thanks Quinnie for bumping this up!!

unfortunately i'm not nearly as well
versed in astrology as i should be to
answer your question... something tells
me that someone here is though

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