posted January 09, 2004 11:02 PM         

.gloria

posted January 10, 2004 04:31 AM         

Intuition cannot exist where mind is. There is no preconception, no information, and no mental processing.

Judgement is an action, intuition is a happening. To make a judgement, something must be done, some mental process. With intuition, there can be no doing because the mind must be absent.

Judgement comes from internal programing, intuition has no program. Judgement arises out of the unconsciousness and subconsciousness, intuition from the superconsciousness.

You arrive at a judgement, you cannot arrive at intuition.

Judgement requires a busy mind, intuition requires silence.

... I think I could go on and on ... are you confused yet?

posted January 10, 2004 05:23 AM         

What Frater Ra said.

With one possible addition.

Intuition is a function of in-tention, or going within... literally stretching within to listen to the inner voice = intuition = Inner Hearing.

Judgment is a function of at-tention, or going without... literally stretching with-out to focus upon a particular subject, and then reaching a conclusion or judgment.

Hope this helps a wee bit.

In the Light...
A

posted January 10, 2004 10:51 AM         

also... what then do you consider the "mind" to be

and...
if we all remained within our intuitive world it would be great... so why do self-proclaimed "intuitives" come out of THEIR world just to "judge" what someone else experiences as intuition?

posted January 10, 2004 10:54 PM         

Hmm, as far as Intuitives 'judging' others' intuitions, I guess it could be for different reasons.

One, we have to think about how may people on this planet are truly realized souls. An honest answer for me is- I have no clue. But from my experiences so far, it is safe to say that these enlightened people are definitely in steep minority.
So, many of these intuitives may actually not be highly realized souls themselves, and therefore inevitably either compare what others have intuited with what they intuitively believe in, find that there is a discrepency, and automatically think that THEY are 'right' and not the other, OR, they may be at the state of soul evolution where they still feel threatened the prowess of others and so feel threatened by another's intuitive ability, and thus they may seek to quash the other's confidence or ideas before they become a 'threat'.

Two, It may be that an intuitive is one who is highly evolved, and sees the flaw in the other's intuited ideas. The evolved intuitive then tries to point out these flaws, which is sometimes perceived as judgment although it really isn't.

To me, judgement is when an entity compares other beliefs against the set of beliefs that they hold, using their beliefs as a benchmark to value those other beliefs.
Intuition is the acceptance of new beliefs into one's system based on what 'feels right'. I don't know what this 'rightness' is based on. Perhaps subconscious values that one is not even aware of.

I don't know whether everyone would be better off living in their own intuitive worlds, though, because one man's intuitive paradise could be another man's nightmare. I could intuitively feel (let's be silly) that everybody needs to eat chicken to be healthy. I could impose this intuited belief of mine on my circle of control- namely my family. Is this 'right' or 'wrong'? I guess if my family is inherently carnivorous, they would be happy, but what if I have a child who intuitively believes in vegetarianism? If this child is quite young, my intuited belief in chicken will seriously infringe on his/her intuition and force him/her to eat meat. Now, is this fair?

posted January 11, 2004 02:25 AM         

As for the mind, I believe it's different from the brain. I don't believe the mind capable of judgement even if it wanted to, so again, I'm not convinced of the self-proclaimed "intuitives'" standing on a stable platform.

posted January 11, 2004 05:03 AM         

I mean, I've just been noticing a trend that has been troubling to me, and I'm trying to understand it. That's all.

Thanks for hanging in there...

.gloria