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Topic: Karmic view on Homosexuality
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LibraSparkle Moderator Posts: 4622 From: Vancouver USA Registered: May 2004
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posted October 28, 2004 11:01 PM
IAT, it was Dean that said it. Sorry, I should have specified.Pixie, I couldn't agree more. Dean's da-bomb! IP: Logged |
iAmThat Knowflake Posts: 705 From: Edison, NJ, USA Registered: Sep 2004
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posted October 28, 2004 11:11 PM
so do i Dean is terrific. Dean whats your sun sign?Librasparkle, I know Sesame said it. We exchanged it in other posts. I wasn't sure if I quoted scripture also to aid the discussion. May be I did. Deja Vu. IP: Logged |
iAmThat Knowflake Posts: 705 From: Edison, NJ, USA Registered: Sep 2004
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posted October 28, 2004 11:17 PM
Dean, forget I asked. I don't want to be judgemental now I don't want to spoil it, if our stars say we don't vibe. IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle Moderator Posts: 4622 From: Vancouver USA Registered: May 2004
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posted October 28, 2004 11:28 PM
Doncha wanna know my Sun sign? What's yours? IP: Logged |
iAmThat Knowflake Posts: 705 From: Edison, NJ, USA Registered: Sep 2004
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posted October 28, 2004 11:34 PM
I thought yours is Mine. I thought you guessed mine by now IP: Logged |
sesame Moderator Posts: 818 From: Oz Registered: Nov 2003
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posted October 28, 2004 11:41 PM
Wow, coming from you Pixie, I'm truly honoured! And you LS And iAmThat. I love you all I'm a gemini, sag asc and virgo moon. What are you IAT? "Do not judge, less thee be judged". You know, I was just thinking about this statement over lunch. I always thought it meant your crimes will be opened when you view anothers, but now I'm thinking differently. I think the point is, if you judge, you are really judging yourself. Literally. Your views are the way others will view you. So the statement isn't so much about karma, but who you are. I'm getting water in my eyes in thankfulness to this place Dean. IP: Logged |
iAmThat Knowflake Posts: 705 From: Edison, NJ, USA Registered: Sep 2004
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posted October 28, 2004 11:58 PM
Dear Dean, "Don't you cry, don't you cry". Remember Guns and Roses. I am a cusp and with a moon and ascendant Althought Linda does not believe a person can be both. I certainly think I exhibit both qualities. May be as I age I will be what I am supposed to be. What ever that meant. "Judge not lest you be judged" Its very interesting. I liked Magidivision's wording when he said, the crying of one is crying of everyone and salvation of one is salvation of all. Likewise "Judgement" = "Condemnation" of one is condemnation of all. Well I had to revise my earlier version. Am I fickle minded or what? I hate it? When will I ever be fixed in my thoughts Oh Lord please freeze my thoughts.
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LibraSparkle Moderator Posts: 4622 From: Vancouver USA Registered: May 2004
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posted October 29, 2004 12:00 AM
It is, IAT... was just being goofy Hmmm a guessing game, eh? Aqua? Dean IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle Moderator Posts: 4622 From: Vancouver USA Registered: May 2004
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posted October 29, 2004 12:01 AM
Bleh... LOL... I'm no good at guessing games I've got a Cancer Moon, Gemini Asc. IP: Logged |
sesame Moderator Posts: 818 From: Oz Registered: Nov 2003
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posted October 29, 2004 01:02 AM
Uh, um, IAT, I'd have to say I agree with Linda (it's in my job description). It's uncanny how many people think they're cusp but it usually comes down to the rising sign. Maybe you have Cancer sun and Leo asc. It's definitely worth checking into as the date could be wrong. My mother in law was written down as ten to midnight, but I worked everything out to be ten after which would've answered all questions, so now, after 50 somthing years she has a new birthdate There is only a few minutes I believe where the cusp is.Heaps of Love, Dean. IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle Moderator Posts: 4622 From: Vancouver USA Registered: May 2004
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posted October 29, 2004 11:15 AM
My littlest kiddo is on the "cusp" of Pisces and Aries. She's a TOTAL Pisces... doesn't show any signs of Aries, well, aside from the fact that she's childish... but she's 6 She was born Feb 19th at 2:56AM. I've read several books that call her Aries, and it just doesn't suit her. Astro.com doesn't put her on a "cusp". They put her in Pisces.Not that I'm trying to start an argument with ya, IAT. We are each entitled to our opinions. I'm curious about which traits you feel you share with both Cancer and Leo? Also, is it possible for these same traits to show up in Scorp and Libra? It could also be that there is a lot of one or other in your chart. For instance, Mars, Venus, Mercury. IP: Logged |
iAmThat Knowflake Posts: 705 From: Edison, NJ, USA Registered: Sep 2004
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posted October 29, 2004 01:00 PM
Dear Librasparkle and Dean, I certainly have Libra ascendant and a scorpio moon. This I am positive. I am what you want me to be. Thats my party line these days. I am now trying to understand people from a spirit perspective than soul/mind/body perspective. Hence I immediately corrected myself when I asked Dean. But the serpent tongue already spoke I believe Freedom and the potential exists for everyone. And in a natural way, just as plants know how to turn toward the Sun, someone(without being extremely rational) is automatically moving towards the Light. PEACE.
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iAmThat Knowflake Posts: 705 From: Edison, NJ, USA Registered: Sep 2004
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posted October 31, 2004 07:36 AM
Dear Chad, For ease of reference I am quoting the passage from David and Jonathan below. I am not sure why people think I took a stand : 2 Samuel 1:26 quote:
I grieve for you, Jonathan my brother! most dear have you been to me; More precious have I held love for you than love for women.
1 Samuel 28:41 quote:
When the boy had left, David rose from beside the mound and prostrated himself on the ground three times before Jonathan in homage. They kissed each other and wept aloud together.
I encourage you to read other contexts to get a hang on complete story and then decide for yourself. PEACE.
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batgirl Knowflake Posts: 295 From: florida, usa Registered: Nov 2001
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posted November 08, 2004 11:48 PM
well first off i think gay or bisexual men are much more attractive than heterosexual men. and, i'm a bit bitter about not being permitted to explore sexuality as a child, and as children (i dont think) we are 'tuned in' to sex with the same sex as being 'wrong' in any way. so that kind of killed it for me (leo moon). and since i have NO intention of having children i'm pretty much screwed sexually. and not in a good way. homosexuality is perfect, i think, next to celibacy as a means of spiritual attainment, but overindulgence i think is almost always harmful, gay or straightIP: Logged |
batgirl Knowflake Posts: 295 From: florida, usa Registered: Nov 2001
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posted November 08, 2004 11:52 PM
i meant to mention overpopulation but i forgot IP: Logged |
batgirl Knowflake Posts: 295 From: florida, usa Registered: Nov 2001
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posted November 09, 2004 12:04 AM
psychically though it does seem possible in the ancient past that two men could create a child together, as well as two women. . ..so how long will we be 'blessed/confined' within male-female only conception? IP: Logged |
sesame Moderator Posts: 818 From: Oz Registered: Nov 2003
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posted November 09, 2004 12:32 AM
Or until machines attempt to take over the world, and manufacture us for the menial labour?Dean. IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle Moderator Posts: 4622 From: Vancouver USA Registered: May 2004
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posted November 09, 2004 01:02 AM
... like The Matrix. *shudders* IP: Logged |
maklhouf Knowflake Posts: 540 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted November 09, 2004 05:33 AM
Men and women both have milk in their breasts. In a situation where there is a hungry child and no woman in the neighbourhood, the milk in a man's breasts can be made available to the child.IP: Logged |
enlik Knowflake Posts: 43 From: Registered: Oct 2004
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posted November 09, 2004 05:33 AM
Hello Chad! What if it is just the life you agreed to experience on a higher level of consciousness...Don't think about it as something negative or wrong but as an interesting task... As long as you are happy and enjoying your life than everything is alright! Don't worry about people who will try to judge you...there are many of them. Always look at the bright side and think to yourself "they are only doing what they think is right so do I"...and keep smilling!!!Life's too short to be constantly worried and sad, there are more important issues to life! And never forget that there are many loving people around you for whom you are just the same if gay or strait...! "DON'T WORRY, BE HAPPY..." IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle Moderator Posts: 4622 From: Vancouver USA Registered: May 2004
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posted November 09, 2004 11:15 AM
I'd never heard that about men. I must have been absent that day in health class.I did know that when a mother adopts a baby, that she can keep nursing the child, and will eventually start to lactate. I thought that was just amazing! IP: Logged |
Irish Eyes Knowflake Posts: 353 From: PA,USA Registered: Apr 2004
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posted November 09, 2004 04:57 PM
Chad-Be true to yourself. One cannot become enlighted through doubt. The only advice that I can give to anyone who is gay is this...always be honest with yourself and NEVER marry someone that you are not attacted to because you fear that society will not except that you are gay. I know that this may not have helped but it is my two cents worth. -Irish IP: Logged |
Aquarian Girl Knowflake Posts: 591 From: Registered: Aug 2004
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posted November 09, 2004 08:47 PM
Personally, I like what Dean said, "Do not judge, less thee be judged". I don't know if homosexuality is right or wrong with the universe, and I don't really care. What two consenting adults do in their bedroom is none of my business and if they love each other, all the better. We need more love in the world. If they want to provide a home for a needy child, I say give them a child to love and care for too. There are too many children in the world who don't have loving parents. I kind of view the answer to this as one of life's little mysteries and I'm not gay, so it's something that this time round I don't have to question. If God came down off his cloud today and said "yes it's wrong! being gay is bad!"... I still think no one has a place to judge. Even if it is wrong, it's something that those individuals must come to terms with and learn their karmic lessons, whatever they happen to be, as we all each have our karmic lessons to learn. IP: Logged |
iAmThat Knowflake Posts: 705 From: Edison, NJ, USA Registered: Sep 2004
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posted November 09, 2004 11:57 PM
Heh, Dean borrowed that from our (Deans and Mine) Yeshua IP: Logged |
sesame Moderator Posts: 818 From: Oz Registered: Nov 2003
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posted November 10, 2004 01:38 AM
Yeah, I was gonna say that, but I wanted to bask in it for a while Very well put Aquarian Girl. I pretty much agreed with everything Welcome back IAT, even though you didn't go anywhere You people are cool , Dean. IP: Logged |