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Topic: Who were You?
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iAmThat Knowflake Posts: 1255 From: third rock from the Sun Registered: Sep 2004
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posted May 23, 2005 03:23 AM
Hi cancernj, Which name does one provide? Your formal name on certificates or the name your friends call you or the name your siblings call you? I might go to India sometime soon. I somehow so much feel connected to Yama (although many humans fear him). That is ever since I came to know he narrated the Upanishad personally to a small indian boy, very long ago. IP: Logged |
cancerrg Knowflake Posts: 2581 From: Registered: Dec 2004
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posted May 23, 2005 03:51 AM
hy i am , are u indian ( just curious ) i am not sure but its the formal name , i believe .IP: Logged |
iAmThat Knowflake Posts: 1255 From: third rock from the Sun Registered: Sep 2004
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posted May 23, 2005 04:21 AM
100 percent. If you can pass me URL to the temple its much appreciated. I have heard of such a temple, but never realized that its a Yama temple. Funny how this has come back. Recently, I have been to Tirupati and then went to Fisherman's wharf close to Chennai. Also no pun, but when I went south India, I saw lot of magic lost from the spiritual sites. My friend mentioned that North India has not changed as much and some places are still great. So I am really wondering, if I must make a trip south, lest it dissapoint me IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9809 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted May 23, 2005 01:50 PM
iAmThat! Ah! That explains alot! I kept getting India and also the mid East. I think that I was picking up on you now and in the past..long past, but they became overlapped in my mind because of similarities. Sometimes I get goofy stuff that after the fact becomes perfectly clear. Example: I was working with a family several years back...It was an on site psychic job. Well the man who had requested my being involved...asked a question: So what kind of vehicle do I use on the job? I only knew his first name and nothing more except where he lived, because I was there. Well I knew it had nothing to do with the reasons that I was called in for....but I said..."well all I am getting is my ex-husband "Ken", sitting in a very big yellow semi truck...and this is strange...but the truck is made out of WOOD!? He looked at me utterly surprised and said; I drive a big YELLOW KENWOOD semi! Then he said/asked: Another vehicle is in the garage..what do you get on that? I thought for a moment and said...I see a fast running old Indian, and he is wearing deep red paint, but his feet are black. He looked at me again, and said..so what do you think that means? I came back with this answer: a motorcycle, an old Indian motorcycle painted red and has black tires, and you have been restoring it, so even though it is old, it is running just fine, and has new tires. Well he was impressed. The rest of the time there was very revealing, and not a waste of time.So what I am saying is that I believe you have many past life connections and current connections to India, but I was getting the overlap effect because of many similarities. Does that make sense? Just like the examples I gave, how that can happen with"seeing". Something keeps calling you back on a deeper level than simply visiting or sight seeing.
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fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9809 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted May 23, 2005 02:37 PM
iAmThat! and Cancerrg! I had a long reply to you both, but while doing cut and paste Quotes from you two somehow I screwed up! GGGRRRR! iAmThat, you said/asked: therefore who is guiding me to the truth? I have an asnwer as well and hope you will respond differently. My answer is that, when one looks inwards, all answers to any questions is found there. I will tell you that is the way. I can not tell you it is otherwise as you hope. I will elaborate further asap! I did already, but I zapped my big reply! I wish I had not messed up my long reply. Perhaps I needed to do it over or say things differently. Or not so much. Sometimes a rock is just a rock, a thing just a thing...but sometimes it is a sign. I wiil redo my long reply in WORD, and THEN see if it goes away/screws up again. Cancerrg! Thank You! I will be looking into that more! PS. iAmThat! Also you said;Quote: These days, I have become very focussed on my inward journey and when in meditation, I seek answer, I find the truth as if in a trance. Do you understand what I am saying? COMPLETELY!
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sunshine9 Knowflake Posts: 913 From: Durham, NC, USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted May 23, 2005 03:51 PM
Wow, this is a very interesting discussion! IAmThat, I've had that (nadi astrology) reading done that you were asking about, though someone else from my family got it done for me, so I don't know the details. This is actually done in several cities there. At the one I had done, you just provide your thumbprint, and they have a system that they use to find a set of palm leaves that match it most closely. They then ask you if you are so-and-so, daughter/son of so-and-so, (the only information you provide here is to say 'yes' or 'no' to help them identify the one) and once they find the right one, you get your reading. They even give you your astro (natal) chart from the information provided! You can choose a general reading about your life, or if you want more, you can choose a specific chapter (eg. love, death, career, children, etc.) They tell you about your life so far, in very specific terms (which i found startlingly accurate), and then tell you how your life is most likely to go, ie. the potential you are likely to achieve. (Of course, you have free will, so you can always change what you don't like). They can tell you about your karmic debts; if you've done something terrible, they tell you how you can make up for it in this one so you can relieve the effect of that bad karma. Usually, it's something like having you feed the poor in a particular place, or have a prayer done. I think such readings, whether from such a place or a psychic, can have great potential for helping us. You can understand yourself better once you see where you've been. If you have certain negative habits ingrained in you from a past life, you can now determine to change it, and perhaps change the course of your life following that. And, even if it doesn't have such a dramatic effect on one, I think it can be very interesting to take a look back, right, IAmThat? I mean, I'm SO darned curious!! I meditate too, and occasionally when i'm actually being objective & not carried away by my personal feelings, I've had some nice insights about past lives & other things (maybe I'll share more on this later). Though, those moments (of calm objectivity) are few & far between these days (I'm in a tough situation now). So, I really appreciate fayte's kind offer to share her thoughts on any vibes she gets! After all, as long as one doesn't get too obsessed with the past enough to the detriment of the present, what harm could come of it? We have the power ultimately, to use such information, like anything else we come across, any way we choose. Sunshine IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9809 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted May 23, 2005 04:06 PM
Sunshine9! A very good reply! And thank you!
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iAmThat Knowflake Posts: 1255 From: third rock from the Sun Registered: Sep 2004
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posted May 23, 2005 05:28 PM
Dear Fayte, When I was in college, I really could not afford making so many trips to distant temple/pilgrimage. I concentrated on making my and my family's life better all this time. Now since 3 years everythings taken care of ever since I have been working in the USA. I been there 2-3 times went to the Ganges, etc. There are still so many I would like to see but I actually fear going back. Hope that you can sense, why. I don't crave or long for it because, I actually believe that I can be anywhere and be in a heavenly state of mind. I really have no clue what the future holds. But what I am trying first is to get my mom here on a visitor visa and after that I will be really Free I hope, to make a decision. As fate would have it my Moms visa got rejected 2 times. I wonder sometimes if its a sign from the universe that is calling me back to my motherland. IP: Logged |
iAmThat Knowflake Posts: 1255 From: third rock from the Sun Registered: Sep 2004
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posted May 23, 2005 05:42 PM
Dear Sunshine, You asked "I think it can be very interesting to take a look back, right, IAmThat?" My response:
My worry is only for the unevolved soul, who are so used to living in a make believe world. A world which Yeshua the Christ describes as "let the dead bury the dead". If there is a negative energy or pain in the past life, someone can really sunk more deep. On the other hand for some, past life regression can bring healing. If they are stuck in a certain behavior pattern, in their present life. They can try to break free from that past. Its a transformational experience. Do you know why there are ghosts, if at all there are? Its because, they are not able to resolve their relationships or deep traumas. I enjoyed reading your post. I am really in double minds if I should really get my past life regression My earlier party line was "The fun is in the mystery and not in the knowing". PEACE.
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fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9809 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted May 24, 2005 01:39 AM
iAmThat! Thank you for your replies. I have alot to say, but not at the moment. You have raised some points that I do not agree with. But they do deserve a response, and not a simple one. So until later. PS. the following I do agree with. You said;Quote:I actually believe that I can be anywhere and be in a heavenly state of mind. One can be spiritual anywhere. It is not the outside that does it, but what we have discovered from within. I shall find the quotes I love concerning that. Good Night! PPS. When Randall takes LL down on the 28th. Of May, I will endeavor to prepare as many responses for the posts I have yet to reply to on this thread. Thank you all for your patience!
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Devilfish Knowflake Posts: 574 From: Registered: Dec 2004
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posted May 24, 2005 09:12 AM
edited/cut /past BIRTH INFO DELETED posted May 23, 2005 10:03 AM female from past life april 18, 1480 male from past life sept. 12, 1476(only sept. was given but going off day of death i used the 12th so there is some flexability there) ive played around with times but basicaly type in aries asc. so at least we know the basic planet placements this is the Borgia family of italy i saw all of this in regression 2 years ago i didnt know they / we were the Borgia s but it fits to a tee, i only looked it up recently on the net to confirm what i saw and all i can say is wow. my current sibling family in laws are 5 boys 1 girl not including spouses i also found that this ties into my march 16 birth date which is the day of baccanilus(sp?) an old pervy festival which historians compare to the dance of the chestnuts held by the borgia family i have more dtails if interested. posted May 23, 2005 01:30 PM fayte.m replies Hello! You might want to check out the "Who Were You" thread at Universal Codes! http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001432.html
As to the Borgias etc. I find that intriguing for personal reasons of my own. posted May 23, 2005 07:43 PM after reading those i feel i mighta posted in the wrong place. here is basic story one day after reading sylvia browns past lives book with the regression section in the back. i read and visualized her words(i have an active imagination) when i proceeded i found myself watching these scences a woman looking down at a man smiling he was looking at her i felt love she was pregnant and knew she was going to be happy with this man i felt hope yet fear, apprehention on the part of the man, love but timidness then he was gone / he faded feelings of abandonment from woman saddness heavy the woman is running down church hall indoor/outdoor pillars scared she fears for her life / babys life ? a man dark wild eyes dark hair angry rage not thinking grabs her by the throat and chokes her she press her back against the stones they are up high i feel religious undertones/ difference of morals she feels she cant undo their control but she is determined not to be like them her money is not their money dependence on her part but trying to find a way out next scence i see three men, one woman royal feeling money power i feel the woman sneer the men love admire her thats it. afterwards i felt boggy heavy passing faint impression that she died with child i continued to feel vague and weak into the evening. that was two and a half years ago i dismissed it as neat but didnt pay much attention as if i knew later it would mean something not to press it wasnt time. didnt understand i knew this was italy/i also knew around 14th century a week or so ago i think about this outta curiousity i type in keywords and bam the Borgia family cesare is the angry man in my visions lucrezia is both the women in my vision she had brown hair though not blond like some pictures show i will get the story off a site and post in their words what happened that night . i just cant deny what i saw , i cant, i saw it then read it how else could i know that? posted May 23, 2005 08:01 PM link pic lucrezia http://www.dragonrest.net/histories/lucrezia.html posted May 23, 2005 08:03 PM C pic. of cesare http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/history/borgias/3.html?sect=6
posted May 23, 2005 08:07 PM now check out the charts chiron in aries in the 4th (lucrezia was an aries) cesare died when the sun was in pisces march 12 (he was a virgo ) check out the nodes gtg i will post more if interested DOES ANYONE have input on this?
fayte.m replies Devilfish! Yes please,copy and paste this post, add to it if you would like...and move it over to the "Who Were You" thread at Universal Codes. I will answer your questions there in more depth. But what I will say here, is that the movie and what you read appeared to "trigger" a memory. Wether it is past life or not is still yet to be determined. As I have told others...I will not give you the whole story...That is for you to remember. But I Would be happy to help you open those doors/books within to your rememberings. I will ask you questions, I will give feedback. So for the first question: You appear to be an observer to these things. Meditate on your point of view, then feel, see, and try to relax and determine from within the observer, which appears to be you,...who you are. Why ARE YOU privy to see these things? A sevant, a child, who? See you at the WWY thread at UC!!!!!! PS. I will move my reply here to there also...but I had to comment on this that you said also:Quote: that was two and a half years ago i dismissed it as neat but didnt pay much attension as if i knew later it would mean something not to press it wasnt time. didnt understand Now that I feel IS SIGNIFICANT! Two and a half years later and it is still "haunting" your psyche! You seem to have seen what you describe or something very much like it from a point that is not connected with your present incarnation. I also am glad to see that some aspect of your God within(or whatever you prefer to call it) recognized two and a half years ago that it was not time to pursue it further. But for some reason it has resurfaced in a rather pervasive manner..so it may be time now for you to know. Next you said:Quote: i knew this was italy/i also knew around 14th century a week or so ago i think about this outta curiousity i type in keywords and bam the Borgia family How did you KNOW? This IS an IMPORTANT question. Ok! So move this over! Please.... PPS. Are you from India? Or Italy? I keep seeing a big letter "I".? IP: Logged |
Devilfish Knowflake Posts: 574 From: Registered: Dec 2004
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posted May 24, 2005 09:34 AM
i felt like i was the woman i was watching,i know i was a woman in that life. i dont know how i knew italy or 14th century i just knew felt it in my heart. there is more to tell but i will wait for you to ask/guide. the more i tell the freakier it gets........... this is just the begining i dont know maybe history repeats itself and we pick up on concentrated energies that mimic our on experience. or maybe we do live over and over i believe reincarnation on a biological level(we die worms eat us we become worms the earth the grass ect) but spiritually speaking of reincarnating your soul well i was skeptic but i just cant find any logical explaination other than reincarnation i guess it scares me most because of the social implications. although again my heart (contradictive) says i shouldnt be...........or should i(logic)?
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cancerrg Knowflake Posts: 2581 From: Registered: Dec 2004
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posted May 24, 2005 02:51 PM
iAmThat! and Cancerrg! I had a long reply to you both, but while doing cut and paste Quotes from you two somehow I screwed up! GGGRRRR! fate: we are waiting!
i am that:i am afraid i have never come across any information relatiing to the url but i'll try . i actually came across it in a news paper most probably it was the "the hindu" , i'll try contacting them. sunshine : which place where u talking of < was it banaras OR ALLAHABAD?
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fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9809 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted May 24, 2005 09:47 PM
iAmThat! You quoted: "let the dead bury the dead".That means to let them go. Do not grieve over a corpse. Do not try to hold the discarnate to you. My husband and I and MANY discarnates are writing a book concerning all this. then you said;Quote: Do you know why there are ghosts, if at all there are? Well..there are...but ghosts is not accurate at all. There are many abberrations to the so called afterlife. The not letting someone go..when their body has expired, or while they are going through the dying process, that can lead to all kinds of trouble. Hauntings etc. are generally NOT caused by so called ghosts, but resonances left by people in a place...either discarnate or incarnate. And that is another book(s), my husband and I are almost done with and working on. I posted about all that in more detail in another reply. And you said:Quote: Its because, they are not able to resolve their relationships or deep traumas. Ok...somewhat correct...but the issue is much more complex than that! Hence the books and my communications (and others I know) with thousands of discarnates. Then you said;Quote: I am really in double minds if I should really get my past life regression Oh boy!..."GET" a past life regression?!? That just doesn't seem or feel right to me. It is not a thing to take lightly, and when the regressionist is doing it for money...well money will cloud the mind and the issue. To hand you what they believe is your past life/lives on a silver platter, not letting you find your triggers.. well I have seen alot of bogus ones(readers/regressionists). Also the tendancy to subliminally introduce ideas is not a responsible action. You must find the clues within..yes an outside thing can trigger rememberings...but ultimately it must come from you, when you are ready. Just be very careful that no one leads you down the garden path. Especially when money changes hands. And one way to tell is if a reader or regressionist always has alot to tell you..and it is what you want to hear...then run don't walk..away! IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9809 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted May 24, 2005 09:54 PM
cancerrg! Wow! I never realized how long this thread would get! Thank you and all here posting and discussing these matters!
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fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9809 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted May 24, 2005 09:57 PM
Devilfish! Thanks for moving your posts over to this thread! I will go and move my replies here also. So if they seem out of order to anyone..that is why! OK..I only moved the main one..here it is!Devilfish! Yes please,copy and paste this post, add to it if you would like...and move it over to the "Who Were You" thread at Universal Codes. I will answer your questions there in more depth. But what I will say here, is that the movie and what you read appeared to "trigger" a memory. Wether it is past life or not is still yet to be determined. As I have told others...I will not give you the whole story...That is for you to remember. But I Would be happy to help you open those doors/books within to your rememberings. I will ask you questions, I will give feedback. So for the first question: You appear to be an observer to these things. Meditate on your point of view, then feel, see, and try to relax and determine from within the observer, which appears to be you,...who you are. Why ARE YOU privy to see these things? A sevant, a child, who? See you at the WWY thread at UC!!!!!! PS. I will move my reply here to there also...but I had to comment on this that you said also:Quote: that was two and a half years ago i dismissed it as neat but didnt pay much attension as if i knew later it would mean something not to press it wasnt time. didnt understand Now that I feel IS SIGNIFICANT! Two and a half years later and it is still "haunting" your psyche! You seem to have seen what you describe or something very much like it from a point that is not connected with your present incarnation. I also am glad to see that some aspect of your God within(or whatever you prefer to call it) recognized two and a half years ago that it was not time to pursue it further. But for some reason it has resurfaced in a rather pervasive manner..so it may be time now for you to know. Next you said:Quote: i knew this was italy/i also knew around 14th century a week or so ago i think about this outta curiousity i type in keywords and bam the Borgia family How did you KNOW? This IS an IMPORTANT question. Ok! So move this over! Please.... PPS. Are you from India? Or Italy? I keep seeing a big letter "I".? PS. Something about that letter "I", a name? Or place? Or a symbol, and not nessessarily an "I"? HHHmmmmm.
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lovely* Knowflake Posts: 2141 From: CA Registered: Jul 2003
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posted May 24, 2005 11:54 PM
hi fayte, im not looking for a reading, but i'd like to include a little astrology here..dear pluto. according to a book by Jeff Green "The Evolutionary Journey of the Soul" my pluto, which is in the 4th house or/ pluto in cancer is indicative of having lived the most recent life in the opposite gender. do you ascribe to this theory?also, i believe the most recent life was right before my date of birth in the 70's and I lived in the town in which i currently live. is this common? i hear most people displaying thier stories as distant times like the 1800s etc. but mine feels fresh as yesterday. IP: Logged |
mystical rainbow Knowflake Posts: 52 From: thimphu, bhutan, south-east asia Registered: Jun 2004
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posted May 25, 2005 12:45 AM
i do believe in re-incarnation too..and i did hear about that temple in madaras.well if i say little about me...i think i was a scholar before..may be in egypt and later in greece. hence my interest in them. thats about it..he..he.. i wish i can write like you people... rain-bow IP: Logged |
Devilfish Knowflake Posts: 574 From: Registered: Dec 2004
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posted May 25, 2005 11:08 AM
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fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9809 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted May 25, 2005 12:18 PM
lovely*! Hello! quote:"my pluto, which is in the 4th house or/ pluto in cancer is indicative of having lived the most recent life in the opposite gender. do you ascribe to this theory?" =====Yes to gender switching. Very common. I am not very versed in astrology, but there could be merit to that theory. And you said;Quote: also, i believe the most recent life was right before my date of birth in the 70's and I lived in the town in which i currently live. is this common? i hear most people displaying thier stories as distant times like the 1800s etc. but mine feels fresh as yesterday. Actually very common. People often remember other earlier or more exotic locals because there may have been more trauma or excitement connected with that memory. Or it is not time for them to know the most recient one. What if the people one knew in that lifetime are still incarnates? This does happen, but it is rare and can be a source of great joy and comfort...or spell trouble. IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9809 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted May 25, 2005 12:25 PM
mystical rainbow! You write well to me! And yes..interest in certain things of another culture can be indicative of past life recall. But the thing here is to determine, do the things that interest you, do so because that was who you were, or is it who you wished to be and saw the scholars there? Were you one of them or a servant desiring this? One must ascertain their point of reference, their point of remembering/seeing.
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sunshine9 Knowflake Posts: 913 From: Durham, NC, USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted May 25, 2005 01:52 PM
cancerrg, The site where my reading was done was Madras (right on, mystical rainbow!). I've heard that several other big cities there have Nadi readings too.It seems like many of us remember pasts in Egypt, among other sites. I, for one, have always had a fascination for all things Egyptian (esp. dating back to the days of the pharaohs) for as long as I can remember, without really knowing why. A few years ago, when this Scorpio came into my life, I wondered at the strange connection we both felt with one another, despite my decision not to pursue a relationship with him. He too shared my Egypt-fascination. Then, one day, during one of my meditation sessions, I suddenly felt with certainty that we'd been in Egypt together before; he as a stonecutter, and i as his wife. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to recall much more. There is another person, the Pisces I've written about in other threads, who I'd just love to know more about a shared past with. Our relationship has been so angst-ridden in this life, and I'm sure our past might explain the experiences we've had to go thru in this one! When we met, there was instant recognition on both our parts, and I feel it in my bones that we've had a few lives together, that we might well be soulmates. (We have a Venus-South node conjunction, as well as a Saturn-Neptune square, among other aspects). fayte, do you find South Node aspects common to people who've incarnated together before? It'd be fascinating to see what kinds of astro aspects correspond to memories of shared pasts. The reading I had had done traced one of my most recent incarnations to India, where I had been a girl who was well-read, and in a position of some power. The reading was actually detailed enough to name the city, the girl, and several other facts of interest. It was too, very interesting, and while the girl's personality matched mine very closely, I found that I myself couldn't remember a thing from that life. Unfortunate, but perhaps the time isn't right, or I'm not ready. If you get any vibes from my post, fayte, I'd LOVE to hear them. Thanks much!! Sunshine IP: Logged |
Devilfish Knowflake Posts: 574 From: Registered: Dec 2004
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posted May 25, 2005 03:53 PM
Faytelately(last 2 days) i have images of a house at holiday time(we were visiting) i see snow im a young woman and im in love walking with a man at dusk this would be i think my last incarnation i kept saying / cooing look at the snow, look at the snow this last image makes me feel love and peace if you get any feeling about this please post why am i seeing all this now? i think it all connects with people in my current life one in particular. i also have seen images in mexico/spanish orgins in that life i was a man (drunkard) i learnt i had / am having pluto transit my 12/1rst house/which natally holds my neptune/moon, think its pulling all this out? Fayte......... will you look at my chart, cause i think i pick up on other dimensions naturally. i could use some knowledge on what to do with this. Thanks IP: Logged |
cancerrg Knowflake Posts: 2581 From: Registered: Dec 2004
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posted May 26, 2005 02:39 AM
shiv-nadi is nt actually in madras but near it , i dot have the exact information , i am searching , will keep u informaed .o if u get something related to it tell us for sure !IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9809 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted May 26, 2005 08:53 AM
Devilfish I must admit that I am an astrology newbie. I wouldn't know how to properly interpret a chart.
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