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Lialei
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posted August 28, 2005 02:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mmm....yes...
very interesting Indeed.

Curious...to those Experienced...
are the partners of the Experience aware of the Magick? What I mean is, is it presented beforehand in an open and honest way?

To someone who isn't as spiritually aware and also unaware of intent, such a profoundly intense Soul-melding experience might be easily mistaken for something else. With all magick, there is responsibility to balance one's power and control. Collective humanity IS individual Souls.
You may be thinking alls good, everyone benefits...she might be thinking it could have only 'happened' with her Soul-mate.

A stalker in the making.

I'm not the moral's police. I'm All for this. It's beautiful...exactly what I'm looking for. Newly single after a long-term relationship... cherishing my Freedom, yet still wanting to Share in a Sensually Intimate Way...beyond the mundane and self-absorbed...with Love...in Lust.


Lia



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sue g
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posted August 28, 2005 05:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'Love....in lust"

Oh Lia.......couldnt have put it better myself, the two go together beautifully dont they...........

x x x

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sue g
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posted August 28, 2005 05:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.......and I agree with your comment about the partners consent/awareness Lia. I have experienced some interesting MIND games (without the sex - didnt go that far) with a few young men.........always young. One in particular, he will be 26 this year, I dont have contact with him now. It took me a fair bit of regression work back into the other lives to see what our story was......oh my... powerful stuff.........and oh was I pulled by him.

Now he goes out into the world and meets women and has sex with them.......his chart is loaded with Scorpio, he has hidden power which he uses with others, he drinks heavily and does drugs too, a lethal combination...........scary stuff !!!

As I was aware of his intent, I could pull away from him, but as for other women who fall under his spell.......mmmmm....not always good hey?

Does any of this sound familiar to you Mr Magus -I too have danced down the dark side way way back......I am still slightly seduced by it........all that Scorpio influence and the sensuality of Taurus in my extremely intense chart.......but I am learning to let in the light...........

LOve to all


Sue xxxxxxxx

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fayte.m
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posted August 28, 2005 02:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lialei
Hello!
You asked:
Curious...to those Experienced...
are the partners of the Experience aware of the Magick? What I mean is, is it presented beforehand in an open and honest way?

>>>I am always up front about it! Then there is never any assumptions made by the one I am with..either as giver or in a mutual joining.
Yes...it could be too intense or misunderstood if not up front and honest.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 28, 2005 03:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe you need to heal yourself before you go thinking you can heal others. I dont think you can use "Sex Magick" to heal others, or yourself...esp if it doesn't involve the truth.

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sue g
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posted August 28, 2005 03:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Daydreamer

Good point, I agree it could be dangerous if the person is operating from a dark place!!

xx

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted August 28, 2005 06:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all,

Lialei- Fayte and Sue put it very well-my own words- Yes, I recomend that all invovled have to be aware of it, especialy if they arent as spiritualy aware. spook the one involved would ruin all usefull intent... And I think in a somewhat more or less abstract way honesty is a big key ingredient to the whole outcome, and experience.

DayDreamer-[knew you would say that]- The state of well being of oneself who is the initiator of such a ritual and act would have a cignificant effect on how potent the whole thing is. These practices are most potent when neither needs any actual heeling, and of ocurse more extreme to both involved's sences- on all levels.

Maybe having experienced is the best way to know of what can or cant be done with Sexual Magick ?

And of course it could get dangerous practiced wiht someone still stuck in dark places. Just regular sex with, and having somein closely involved with your life form such a place could be bad enough.

Sue- Ive seen peaple use natural tallent, or accumelated knowledge of these things for very selfish and ill intents. And seen how it bites em in the @sz. Havent my self. Untill a few years ago I never even had a problem with tmptations to be selfish in love what so ever.. Was stil very inocent in those ways even. [still always had the allegidly "dirty" mind though] .

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DayDreamer
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posted August 28, 2005 08:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don’t neglect your boundaries...they are very important. The proper boundaries can actually allow you to flourish and for things in your world to function better. Your home for instance can provide a supportive boundary, a place for rest, nourishment, love and a place for learning and preparation for the world outside. Without this box called a home, finding your centre is a challenge.

The supposed “healer” is only human and his intentions are not always pure and positive or to the benefit of the other party...or even himself...there may be self deception involved! As long as the healer is fooling himself, posing as a sexual healer practicing the guise of “sex magick” he may be missing out on sex's potential as an act of worship and the illuminating and pleasurable gifts the Creator would actually like humans to enjoy.

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pixelpixie
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posted August 28, 2005 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know I'm coming in a little late here..

I am all for love. I am all for sharing
healing,
nurturing,
sharing a sacred experience,
transcending the earthen, entering the spirit....

Can it sometimes just have to do with pleasure.. without sacrificing a part of your spirit, or a part of another's?

I can cook some amazing meals.. pull out all the stops, season exquisitely, plan menus...
But then I can pop some mac and cheese into a pot.
They're both food.. and sometimes you only want mac and cheese.

Can't it just be.. "Hey.. you know that thing I do with my tongue? Wanna see?"
Is that necessarily a bad thing?

Just some food for thought.

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DayDreamer
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posted August 28, 2005 08:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course, it’s for pleasure!!!...and one of the many gifts the Creator gave to humans...not to neglect the physical and chemical, or tangible pleasures that are translated to humanly senses. But sex isnt so simple...it is intimate...feelings, emotions, auras, your soul/spirit is involved, and other invisible entities are witness to it, whether or not you choose to acknowledge that

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lotusheartone
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posted August 28, 2005 09:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, this has come a long way, I think we must remember that temptation, is an evil of sorts, and when we give into the pleasure the desire, if it's not right, well, you won't feel right.
But, I realize there are those, that can do it, I am not one of them, I'll wait for eternity, for the One, for One Fine Day, well, that will be sweet sacred bliss, Amen and Awoman.

And please honestly, I don't think I can handle anymore hostility, this is just my opinion...

Love and Light

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pixelpixie
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posted August 28, 2005 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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and other invisible entities are witness to it, whether or not you choose to acknowledge that

Well, In that case....next time I'll be sure my good side is showing, and I'll suck it in and pose.

Lotusheartone... hostility?
You don't mean me, right? Cuz if it was meant, if you thought hostility was coming from me, you'd know it. Therefore, it was not intentioned.

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lotusheartone
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posted August 28, 2005 09:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh! Pixie, not from you, you wonderful person, I seem to put my foot in my mouth alot lately, lol, and well, you know, some can be so mean, but I'm laughing now, now, won, OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH.

If it doesn't matter, then I don't need to mind. lol

Love ya

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fayte.m
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posted August 28, 2005 10:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotus gets temper flares often...
I think I shall ignore them from now on...
I do not think it is personal Pixie...At least I hope she doesn't mean to keep snapping and saying we seem hostile or make her feel bad..sucky or whatever.
Alot of frustration she has..and I am at a loss to know what else to do or say to help her.

Lotus....I am not mad at you...but we are not you...some will do as you ask...but just because some of us have our own ways of healing and helping the world...does not mean we are wrong. You seem to be saying your way is the only way...and if do not jump on your bandwagon we must be evil or not awake...or whatever...
I am at a loss as to why you get so upset and hurt when no one was trying to be hostile or mean.

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lotusheartone
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posted August 28, 2005 10:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fayte,
I have never stated any one of those things you mention, read over everything, I have never stated anything as such,
and that's mean, that you say that.

See, where I'm coming from.

Love and Light

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lotusheartone
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posted August 28, 2005 10:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where ever there is light, darkness shall come, and try and try as it might, by trying to peck and peck, Goodness shall prevail...

Love and Light and Understanding

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted August 29, 2005 12:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DayDreamer -

"" The supposed “healer” is only human and his intentions are not always pure and positive or to the benefit of the other party...or even himself...there may be self deception involved! As long as the healer is fooling himself, posing as a sexual healer practicing the guise of “sex magick” he may be missing out on sex's potential as an act of worship and the illuminating and pleasurable gifts the Creator would actually like humans to enjoy. """"""""

Before I get started please just verify this was in refernece of me.

Pixel- I think the mac N cheese can be great fun, and even exciting sometimes as well.

And of course invisable entities can see our sexual acts, as well as any other life experience we go through... That doesnt meen they have the same dogmatic views on sex or anyhting else that mortal kind has created as far as to how the Creator views things.

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Lialei
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posted August 29, 2005 02:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Don’t neglect your boundaries...they are very important. The proper boundaries can actually allow you to flourish and for things in your world to function better. Your home for instance can provide a supportive boundary, a place for rest, nourishment, love and a place for learning and preparation for the world outside. Without this box called a home, finding your centre is a challenge."

Daydreamer, our center IS our true home, isn't it? It goes with us wherever we go. If we Know this, we need no preparation.
Box...well, as a Sag, I cringed just a wee bit at that word.
I hope my box is Infinite.

Well, cool, then fayte and Magus. That's what I was hoping you'd say. Honestly, I haven't researced the topic (yet) so knowledge helps.

The way I was picturing it, IS the very things you describe, Daydreamer.
2 people coming together and Illuminating the moment as Sacred.
Each moment is a possibility~every night, every day, every minute~ of Joy.
If both intentions are Pure (that being the doorway to Bliss), then it seems it could Be a most Beautiful Experience.
We can experience Bliss in this World if we choose it. No one's Bliss is the same. Everyone's perception of it is different.

I suppose the Time reveals itself to you...and you know intuitively and go with it.
Prowling for it...well that would be something different altogether, and would miss the intent entirely.

...am I close? Picturing it, I mean (devoid of graphic details anyway, lol).



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sue g
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posted August 29, 2005 04:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who is being hostile.......I only see healthy stimulating debate happening?

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ListensToTrees
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posted August 29, 2005 08:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Damn it! I had a lot to say on this matter- I wrote this long post and it never came through! I'll have to try again later.

'If I mind, it matters- if I don't, it won't'

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Kat
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posted August 29, 2005 06:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the Taurus rising and your sun fits nicely in my 7th house, but the venus in Sag just won't do!

Any Aqua males out there with lots of Pisces?

Ladies, if we have invisible watchers remember to keep your arms firmly down at your sides, lest your boobies will fall into your armpits.

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted August 29, 2005 06:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kat - haha, awww- whats wrong with my Sag Venus !?

And are you shoping here or something !?

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fayte.m
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posted August 29, 2005 08:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotus...you said:
I have never stated any one of those things you mention, read over everything, I have never stated anything as such,
and that's mean, that you say that

>>>>I am not going to hunt for every post you made that idicates what you said and now tell me you did not...
but here are some that reflect why I wrote about you getting angry and having a temper and insinuating other things...these are your words....

QUOTES:
that's a suckey feeling
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I must be patient, and watch my temper.
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I should really watch my temper this time, I have behaved childishly, having a bad tantrum.
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Oh, you make me so sad, why did you ever bother to read her books?
Or, was it just for the deeper knowing, and the looks,
you'd get?
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I don't think I can handle anymore hostility
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While we're having fun, evil is afoot, in all it's glory, laughing at us. So go on have your
fun, but when it's done, what will you have
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OK>>>>I just do not understand Lotus...
And you said alot of things about no one listening and ignoring you and making fun of you....
NO ONE has been doing those things that I can see! Almost everytime you ask for help and someone tries...you get upset if it is not what you wanted to hear or you do not agree. And no one has ignored you.
I just do not get it...
Don't you realize that people are trying but you keep getting upset.
I just do not know what to say...
sometimes you tell me my advice etcetera is good...but then you accuse me of being mean when I try to help....
I can not figure you out....

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lotusheartone
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posted August 29, 2005 08:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know about you, but if you were me, and you kept making lists, and putting me down. What would you do?
Honestly Fayte, I've let this go, I'm not upset, I'm very happy, and I just want us all to treat each other with respect.
You come after me like a lion, I'm a litte lamb. Just trying to spread some LOVE and LIGHT and UNDERSTANDING...

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fayte.m
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posted August 29, 2005 08:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotus... you called me mean..you denied saying what you said..
how else could I respond?
Those were your words!
FINE>>>>I shall try not to offend you..make you angry..
But do not accuse me of doing something I did not, and for responding to you by pointing out that you did say those things.
Why do you keep getting so upset?????
This does not make sense...
I keep trying and you get upset..
now I am upset because this has become futile and I am tired of it!
If I offend you so much...please do not talk to me ok? Then I will not have to reply and make you mad or whatever. (As I beat my head against a brick wall in frustration)
Thank you.

PS. YOU are not the only one with feelings...or the only one who can be hurt....think about it please...
and you do have a temper! And if saying that is putting you down..or asking questions...then I am sorry you feel that way. You expect answers...but you do not always answer when others ask you questions.
But I am becoming very gunshy and feel like I must walk on eggshells with you....instead of being honest.
I just do not understand you.
Tilt tilt...this does not compute....bbbzzzzzt bbbzzzzttttt..fizzzzzle
binng binnng fweeeep......

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