posted December 04, 2005 07:40 PM              

Dont you just love them fecking double standards unless of course no one has noticed yet......in which case I apologise for being hasty.......

posted December 04, 2005 07:47 PM              

but in many ways your frustration with alot of us [perhaps sometimes evne the ones you admire],, is that in our land double standards are so common, and enforoced into social standards so much, that few dare to ever point them out, let alone ruster up the nerve to collectivly do something about it.

If not just becuase what they saw what happend to the last few who had the nerve. This is perhaps one day my suicide to say, may Creation and those in the ether realms always look out for me,, but-

Big Brother Sam no longer tollerates sugestions of actualy fixing a problem. Atleast not if it threatens to thorow a wrench into any of his collecitve profits and intentions..

posted December 04, 2005 08:03 PM            

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To be true, I must fully accept that at this moment, I can only be what I am . . . no more, no less; however, with the inevitable passing of each moment of time, I will gradually, but surely change . . . to become more or less, better or worse, stronger or weaker. My choice is the direction of change: it is mine alone. The only true competition is this rivalry with my changing self. It is the very basis of the grand eternal plan. --C. Smith Sumner

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posted December 04, 2005 09:09 PM            

Hope you heard her??? Sueg!!!

Please don't go!!!

posted December 04, 2005 10:52 PM              

I am fully aware about 17 hour labors, having your child ripped from your body, and PND for over a year. With my first son(which I gave up for adoption) I was told by my OB that the baby was too big for my pelvis to birth, which when my midwife(yes Fayte is right when she says that in some states here it is illegal for midwives to practice, and they get prison time over it) looked at my records, she informed me that they had lied to me, probably due to convienience for them since it was a small county hospital which shared a surgeon with several other hospitals. With my daughter I was in labor for over 24 hours. With my twin sons I suffered PND at least a year. Then I got addicted to Paxil and couldn't get off when I no longer needed it.

I wasn't by any means saying anything about you and your abilities as a mother. Nor am I perfect by any means.

I grew up in an horribly abusive household, both physically and emotionally. THings like having a wooden yard stick broken across your naked bottom. HOw about a belt on your bare bottom. Or a wooden spoon or whatever else was handy. As a result I vowed never to have children. Since Life sometimes happens to people while they are busy makeing other plans, I ended up with children.

I have been Blessed in my life to have certain women placed into my life at crucial times where they sent me onto my current path, and how I developed my philosophy of parenting.

Yes, SIngle mothers have a difficult horrible time, because not only do they have to mother, but also to father their children. That brings me to this point which is since our women's "liberation"(which is a farce) Women's support has gotten smaller and smaller and smaller, until sometimes there is no one else but the women. I truly believe that women were NOT meant to parent alone. Why do you think you have that urge to go to the bathroom with your girlfriends? We are group creatures. We are meant to be together raising our children and supporting one another.

Sue,

I wasn't trying to insult you, or condem you, or say that you were a horrible person, or a parent. I was posting my own thoughts, based on my OWN experiences.

I do not throw stones. I am harder on myself than I am on anyone else.

posted December 05, 2005 03:55 AM              

Sorry if I came on too strong.....

This is my problem girl not yours....

You didnt do anything wrong.

I just wanted to say that.......

Just carry on the way you are.........

posted December 05, 2005 04:30 AM              

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There is a 15 year old GIRL in FFA discussing ORAL SEX.......
Dont you just love them fecking double standards unless of course no one has noticed yet......in which case I apologise for being hasty.......

But even so........J E E Z .......

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Sue, how can that be double standards? No one who opposed what was going on here condones that string!!...Some other member did! We didn't get any warning!
Well I recently just saw it and I certainly voiced my opinion, so did other mods. No need to sweat it! I hope it gets closed soon!

posted December 05, 2005 10:17 AM              

Sue please stay. I like you. I hope you don't leave.

Love,
Goatgirl

posted December 05, 2005 01:41 PM            

I agree with Fayte and feel that there has to be some kind of balance for the child, not letting them know anything and only finding the negative side of everything.

Kids are curious and will always be and its usally the wrong messages that they get, because everyone is so scare to share the right stuff with them.

posted December 05, 2005 02:20 PM            

Perhaps we, as responsible patrons of this site, ought to come up with standards the Moderators want, but won't come up with themselves.

posted December 06, 2005 03:56 AM              

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I think they (Mods) resent the personal, playful type info, and particularly that it exists in a thread with a title that might draw people in.

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No, AG, no. That's not it.

*shaking head* .........*frustrated*....... *got to let it go*.......

And, Planet, Solane, fayte and any others I may have missed,

posted December 06, 2005 10:32 AM              

26Taurus
Thank you! Some folks have said in various threads that those of us who talked about being abused or raped are looking for sympathy and attention! How ridiculous! Yet these same persons have went through these things also....and said so! But they do not want to talk about it. So who is healed of their past traumas?
The ones who tell their story are! They know it may help others somehow understand that it was not their fault and give advice on how to prevent these things from happenig to others!
The persons who mention their own rapes and abuse...but then turn around and insult us for talking about it...are still unhealed of their pain and misplaced guilt...and even feel(they said so!) that they deserved the things that happened to them! That is an awful big dish of guilt they have and wish to dump it out on others. Makes me wonder what it is they are not saying.