posted September 14, 2005 04:11 PM              

Have you ever felt that certain songs/videos have deep mystical undertones? Well i have... mostly in Madonna songs...

Example:

1. FROZEN

You only see what your eyes want to see
How can life be what you want it to be
You're frozen
When your heart's not open

(Skeptics denying the occult)

You're so consumed with how much you get
You waste your time with hate and regret
You're broken
When your heart's not open

(the "material" world denying the spiritual)

Chorus:

Mmmmmm, if I could melt your heart
Mmmmmm, we'd never be apart
Mmmmmm, give yourself to me
Mmmmmm, you hold the key

(the submission of the piscean soul that can elevate the human to the next level)

Now there's no point in placing the blame
And you should know I suffer the same
If I lose you
My heart will be broken

(karma.. except what you've done in the past... move on...dont regret)

Love is a bird, she needs to fly
Let all the hurt inside of you die
You're frozen
When your heart's not open

(Along with the Bull... Aprodite/Venus's symbol was always a bird (a dove to be particular)... "love is a Bird")

2. LIKE A PRAYER

Life is a mystery, everyone must stand alone
I hear you call my name
And it feels like home

Chorus:

When you call my name it's like a little prayer
I'm down on my knees, I wanna take you there
In the midnight hour I can feel your power
Just like a prayer you know I'll take you there

I hear your voice, it's like an angel sighing
I have no choice, I hear your voice
Feels like flying
I close my eyes, Oh God I think I'm falling
Out of the sky, I close my eyes
Heaven help me

(chorus)

Like a child you whisper softly to me
You're in control just like a child
Now I'm dancing
It's like a dream, no end and no beginning
You're here with me, it's like a dream
Let the choir sing

(chorus)

Just like a prayer, your voice can take me there
Just like a muse to me, you are a mystery
Just like a dream, you are not what you seem
Just like a prayer, no choice your voice can take me there

Just like a prayer, I'll take you there
It's like a dream to me

( A Perfect blend of religious and sexual ecstacy fused into one... kinda like sex magick... the power the vestial virgins possessed...or the indian devdassi's (sacred temple prositutes).. )

OTHER SONGS WITH MYSTICAL UNDERTONES:

RAY OF LIGHT: (Speaks of universal oneness and the reign of feminine powers once again over the patriarchal societies)

BEDTIME STORY: (Submitting oneself to the control of forces from beyond one's understanding..."lets get unconscious honey")

BLACKMORE's Knight: Ghost of a Rose: Magdelene and Christ's love story in a pagan undertone

BLACKMORE's Knight: Fire's at Midnight: a wiccan/pagan society that fights for survival when crusades invade.

Creed: My Sacrifice :

(when ever i see scott stapp, i imagine him as jesus for some reason or the other.. dont ask me... anyway thats just my perception... plus the whole "sacrifice" aspects adds to the whole thing)

JOHN LENNON : IMAGINE : the eternal message of the aquarian age's promise.

CYNDIE LAUPER: TRUE COLORS : hear it to believe it.

FULL BLOOM ROSE : SOMEBODY HELP ME (The theme from "Tru Calling") : the world in need of a "savior"

BONNIE TYLER : HOLDING OUT FOR A HERO : A cancer woman's plea to be swept off her feet by her knight in shining armour

BJORK: OCEANIA : the evolution of the world from the ocean

What about you?
DO you know any songs with mystical undertones?

posted September 14, 2005 04:30 PM            

I think Tim Booth of James has some very philosophical lyrics:

Stripmining
When the world swallows whole all you've known
There are no landmarks you can recognise

Where is the jewel that will never fade
Will not decay with old age

Maybe a death, maybe a depression
Those things you thought you could lean on
Are suddenly just an impression

Well, if you put your trust in things of dust
You're gonna feel the pain of loss

The pain of loss

When the world swallows whole all you've known
There are no landmarks you can recognise

We've got no understanding of this body's needs
We've got no understanding of real philosophy
We've got no understanding of mortality
So we keep putting our trust in things that rust
And then we feel the pain of loss
Keep putting our trust in things that rust
And then I feel the pain of loss

La la la loss

Are You Ready
Hey hey hey

Julie says that I must wake up
I am losing touch 'cause I think too much
I'm afraid to feel, my life feels unreal
You will not find love if you think you're not good enough

Are you ready to rebel
Change your mind, I know you live in hell
Are you ready, oh

All of my beliefs, they come back to me
I think life is tough, so my life is tough
She says find a way to develop love
To receive my love, believe you are good enough

Are you ready to rebel
Change your mind, I know you live in hell,
Are you ready

When we forget why we're here
Out goes love, in comes fear
And if not then, I'm all alone
I need nothing 'til my mind takes hold
Hold, hold

Are you ready to rebel
Are you ready

Sound
Ape your father's sins, your mother's mood swings
To perfection
Fall into a spin, shed another skin
Strip away all your protection

Laugh at the wonder of it all
Laugh so loud you break the fall
And you see the gathering clouds
Cry at the sadness of the world
Cry so long you break its cold
And you hear the gathering sounds

Do everything you fear
In this there's power
Fear is not to be afraid of

Laugh at the wonder of it all
Laugh so loud you break your fall
And you hear the gathering sounds

Come, dip on in
Leave your bones, leave your skin
Leave your past, leave your craft
Leave your suffering heart

-------------
etc. Tim Booth is an Aquarian.

posted September 14, 2005 04:57 PM              

UNDER THE WATER

By JEWEL

Bees are buzzin' in their honey catacomb
All the noise seems to call my head a home
Can't escape the scratchin'
My blood makes a noise
It's hard not to play when there are so many toys
So many toys

Under the water
The total is more than the sum
Under the water
I hear who I'll become

There's a hole inside my head where all the thoughts break out
Sometimes my flesh is filled with forgetfulnes and doubt
It's easy to feel separate, no control of the reigns
Innocence ain't lost it just needs to be maintained
It needs to be maintained

Beside me are strange fish, moody and dark
A tapestry of intention that maintains the spark
And there's a tiny light
A flicker within
Forgiveness is the needle that knows how to mend
It knows how to mend

Under the water
The total is more than the sum
Under the water
I hear who I'll become

(Spoken "Rap")
I've decided to hear who we will become
Wanna lay down in the water, go back to where I'm from
Outer space is just a puzzle of stars
Music the mechanics of the human heart
A post that stirs, a shadow that casts
An insatiable thirst drains a martini glass
There's no place sacred, no honest reflection
Our senses made senseless by a lack o' direction
Monks are great with their fists uncurled
But they live in a cave, they know nothin' of the world
I wanna live brave, I wanna love without fear
But it's hard to navigate when I can't even hear

(Do do do do do do do,
Do do do do)

Bees are buzzin' in their honey catacomb
All the noise seems to call my head a home
Can't escape the scratchin'
My blood makes a noise
It's hard not to play when there are so many toys
There're so many toys

Under the water
The total is more than the sum
Under the water
I hear who I'll become

Under the water
My flesh is filled with stars
Under the water
I hear who we really are

Under the water
I lay my burdens down, down, down
Under the water
All resistance drowns

(Do do do do do do do, Do do do do)
(Do do do do do do do, Do do do do)
(Do do do do do do do, Do do do do)
(Do do do do do do do, Do do do do)
(Do do do do do do do, Do do do do)

Come on, come down, down, down under go,
A-go down on and go down under
Go under the water
I hear who I'll become

Under the water
I lay my problems down
Under the water
All my resistance drowned

INTUITION

By Jewel

I'm just a simple girl
In a high tech digital world
I really try to understand
All the powers that rule this land
They say Miss J's big butt is boss
Kate Moss can't find a job
In a world of post modern fad
What was good now is bad

It's not hard to understand
Just follow this simple plan

Follow your heart
Your intuition
It will lead you in the right direction
Let go of your mind
Your Intuition
It's easy to find
Just follow your heart baby

You look at me
but you're not quite sure
Am I it or could you get more?
You learn cool from magazines
You learn love from Charlie Sheen

If you want me let me know
I promise I won't say no

[Chorus Repeat]

You got something that you want me to sell
Sell your sin. Just cash in.
You got something that you want me to tell
You'll love me. Wait and see.

If you want me
Don't play games
I promise
it won't be in vain
Uh-uh-uh

posted September 17, 2005 02:49 AM              

"Absence Of Fear"

Inside my skin there is this space
It twists and turns
It bleeds and aches
Inside my heart there's an empty room
It's waiting for lightning
It's waiting for you
And I am wanting
And I am needing you here
Inside the absence of fear
Muscle and sinew
Velvet and stone
This vessel is haunted
It creaks and moans
My bones call to you
In their separate skin
I make myself translucent
To let you in, for
I am wanting
And I am needing of you here
Inside the absence of fear
there is this hunger
This restlessness inside of me
and it knows that you're no stranger
you're my gravity
My hands will adore you through all darkness aim
They will lay you out in moonlight
And reinvent your name
For I am wanting you
And I am needing you here
I need you near
Inside the absence of fear

(what's also great about this song is that in the background a drum makes a sound that resembles the sound of thunder to go with the reference to lightning).

"Life Uncommon Lyrics"

Don't worry mother
It'll be alright
And don't worry sister
Say your prayers and sleep tight
And it'll be fine
Lover of mine
It'll be just fine

And lend your voices only
To sounds of freedom
No longer lend your strength
To that which you wish
To be free from
Fill your lives
With love and bravery
And you shall lead
A life uncommon

I've heard your anguish
I've heard your hearts cry out
We are tired, we are weary
But we aren't worn out
Set down your chains
Until only faith remains
Set down your chains

And lend your voices only
To sounds of freedom
No longer lend your strength
To that which you wish
To be free from
Fill your lives
With love and bravery
And we shall lead
A life uncommon

There are plenty of people
Who pray for peace
But if praying were enough
It would've come to be
Let your words enslave no one
And the heavens will hush themselves
To hear our voices ring our clear
With sounds of freedom
Sounds of freedom

Come on you unbelievers
Move out of the way
There is a new army coming
And we are armed with faith
To live, we must give
To live

And lend our voices only
To sounds of freedom
No longer lend our strength
To that which we wish
To be free from
Fill your lives
With love and bravery
And we shall lead...

And lend our voices only
To sounds of freedom
No longer lend our strength
To that which we wish
To be free from
Fill your lives
With love and bravery
And we shall lead
A life uncommon

posted September 18, 2005 08:23 AM              

Well, I can understand where you're coming from... you've probably read those conspiracy blogs that Madonna is an Illuminati mind slave..as well as the song "Like a Prayer" when reversed says , "Oh satan help".

Well i too have read those blogs... although they do have numerous matter... if you check on their facts or figures with "proper" madonna sites...you would find numerous errors. Plus the book..13 satanic illuminati bloodlines..also claim that madonna was a disney sponsored illuminati mind slave... along with britney justin and christina (they were all mouseketeers)

Now when you say Demonic... a quote comes to my mind..

"One man's god is another's demon"

Coming from a multicultural country like india..where there have been numerous issues about religion based violence... i would have to think that you wouldnt be so swept up by the word "demonic"... but then it is indeed your point of view.

And music is only what the interpreters make it to be.

Example: Mariah Carey's song Honey.. many felt the word honey was just a replacement for "Sperm"

Something to think about huh?

posted September 18, 2005 09:51 AM              

Billy Elliot lyrics
Movie "Billy Elliot" soundtrack lyrics
Artist: T-Rex lyrics
Song: Cosmic Dancer lyrics

I was dancing when I was twelve
I was dancing when I was aaah
I danced myself right out the womb
Is it strange to dance so soon
I danced myself right out the womb

I was dancing when I was eight
Is it strange to dance so late
I danced myself into the tomb
Is it strange to dance so soon
I danced myself into the tomb

Is it wrong to understand
The fear that dwells inside a man
What's it like to be a loon
I liken it to a balloon

I danced myself out of the womb
Is it strange to dance so soon
I danced myself into the tomb
But when again once more

I danced myself out of the womb
Is it strange to dance so soon
I danced myself out of the womb.

posted September 18, 2005 11:58 AM              

By Wilson Phillips

(A perfect song that can encourage you... spot the mystical links yourself)

I know this pain
Why do lock yourself up in these chains?
No one can change your life except for you
Don't ever let anyone step all over you
Just open your heart and your mind
Is it really fair to feel this way inside?

Chorus:
Some day somebody's gonna make you want to
Turn around and say goodbye
Until then baby are you going to let them
Hold you down and make you cry
Don't you know?
Don't you know things can change
Things'll go your way
If you hold on for one more day
Can you hold on for one more day
Things'll go your way
Hold on for one more day

You could sustain
Or are you comfortable with the pain?
You've got no one to blame for your unhappiness
You got yourself into your own mess
Lettin' your worries pass you by
Don't you think it's worth your time
To change your mind?

(Chorus)

I know that there is pain
But you hold on for one more day and
Break free the chains
Yeah I know that there is pain
But you hold on for one more day and you
Break free, break from the chains

Some day somebody's gonna make you want to
Turn around and say goodbye
Until then baby are you going to let them
Hold you down and make you cry
Don't you know?
Don't you know things can change
Things'll go your way
If you hold on for one more day yeah
If you hold on

Don't you know things can change
Things'll go your way
If you hold on for one more day,
If you hold on
Can you hold on
Hold on baby
Won't you tell me now
Hold on for one more day 'Cause
It's gonna go your way

Don't you know things can change
Things'll go your way
If you hold on for one more day
Can't you change it this time

Make up your mind
Hold on
Hold on
Baby hold on

LOVE IS GONNA GET YOU

By Macy Gray

(a perfect song for twin souls and soul mates that havent yet met)

I want too much to be with you
But I'm working night and day
I came all this way to see you
And you tell me you need space
Everyone I know is compatible with somebody I know
I can never get it right
And I don't know where to go
Stay away from me don't you ever leave me alone, NO

Love is gonna get you baby
Someday, one day, it will be
A good love that gets me
Love is gonna get ya baby
Someday, one day, I will find
Somebody for me

I have talked to all the experts,
all the psychics...I've loved
I have prayed for all the answers
To the game of love above
They all say it's unanimous
There's somebody for me
But none of them will tell me
When it is, where he might be
I want to be with you, I just won't to be alone.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah!

Love is gonna get you baby
Someday, one day, it will be
A good love that gets me
Love is gonna get ya baby
Someday, one day, I will find
Somebody for me

I believe in destiny
I believe it sets me free
Come and save me with your kiss
Been on my best behavior
Friends say I'm looking greater
Won't you, won't you, just save me with your kiss
Save me with your kiss
Won't you just save me with your kiss?

Love is gonna get you baby
Someday, one day, it will be
A good love that gets me
Love is gonna get you baby
Someday, one day, it will be
A good love that gets me
Love is gonna get ya baby
Someday, one day, I will find
Somebody for me

posted September 18, 2005 12:17 PM              

Bjork is a beautiful troubled poet with a mind that speaks in so many different languages... some of them are quite esoteric... see for yourself

"All Is Full Of Love"

you'll be given love
you'll be taken care of
you'll be given love
you have to trust it

maybe not from the sources
you have poured yours
maybe not from the directions
you are staring at

trust your head around
it's all around you
all is full of love
all around you

all is full of love
you just aint receiving
all is full of love
your phone is off the hook
all is full of love
your doors are all shut
all is full of love!

all is full of love

**********

"I've Seen It All"

I've seen it all, I have seen the trees,
I've seen the willow leaves dancing in the breeze
I've seen a man killed by his best friend,
And lives that were over before they were spent.
I've seen what I was - I know what I'll be
I've seen it all - there is no more to see!

You haven't seen elephants, kings or Peru!
I'm happy to say I had better to do
What about China? Have you seen the Great Wall?
All walls are great, if the roof doesn't fall!

And the man you will marry?
The home you will share?
To be honest, I really don't care...

You've never been to Niagara Falls?
I have seen water, its water, that's all...
The Eiffel Tower, the Empire State?
My pulse was as high on my very first date!
Your grandson's hand as he plays with your hair?
To be honest, I really don't care...

I've seen it all, I've seen the dark
I've seen the brightness in one little spark.
I've seen what I chose and I've seen what I need,
And that is enough, to want more would be greed.
I've seen what I was and I know what I'll be
I've seen it all - there is no more to see!

You've seen it all and all you have seen
You can always review on your own little screen
The light and the dark, the big and the small
Just keep in mind - you need no more at all
You've seen what you were and know what you'll be
You've seen it all - there is no more to see!

******

"Joga"

( a song symbolizing the power of Saturn and Karma)

all the accidents that happen
follow the dot
coinsidense makes sense
only with you
you don't have to speak
i feel
emotional landscapes
they puzzle me

then the riddle gets solved and you push me up to this:

...state of emergency...
...how beatuiful to be!...
...state of emergency...
...is where i want to be...

all that no-one sees
you see
what's inside of me
every nerve that hurts you heal
deep inside of me
you don't have to speak - i feel
emotional landscapes
they puzzle me
confuse

then the riddle gets solved and you push me up to this:

...state of emergency...
...how beatuiful to be!...
...state of emergency...
...is where i want to be...

...state of emergency...

...state of emergency...

*******

"Human Behaviour"

(a song that shows the need of astrology)

If you ever get close to a human
and human behaviour
be ready to get confused

there's definitely no logic
to human behaviour
but yet so irresistible

there is no map
to human behaviour

they're terribly moody
then all of a sudden turn happy
but, oh, to get involved in the exchange
of human emotions is ever so satisfying

there's no map and
a compass
wouldn't help at all

human behaviour

********

"Oceania"

(a message from Mother nature to us)

One breath away from mother Oceania
Your nimble feet make prints in my sands
You have done good for yourselves
Since you left my wet embrace
And crawled ashore
Every boy, is a snake is a lily
Every pearl is a lynx, is a girl
Sweet like harmony made into flesh
You dance by my side
Children sublime
You show me continents
I see islands
You count the centuries
I blink my eyes
Hawks and sparrows race in my waters
Stingrays are floating
Across the sky
Little ones, my sons and my daughters
Your sweat is salty
I am why

posted September 18, 2005 09:33 PM              

The Patient

A groan of tedium escapes me, startling the fearful.
Is this a test?
It has to be. Otherwise I can't go on.
Draining patience. drain vitality.
this paranoid, paralyzed vampire act's a little old.

But I'm still right here, giving blood and keeping faith. And I'm still right here.
But I'm still right here, giving blood and keeping faith. And I'm still right here.

I'm gonna wait it out

If there were no rewards to reap,
no loving embrace to see me through this tedious path I've chosen here,
I certainly would've walked away by now.

I'm gonna wait it out

If there were no desire to heal
The damaged and broken met along this tedious path I've chosen here,
I certainly would've walked away by now.

I still may. And I still may.
Be patient.

I must keep reminding myself of this...

If there were no rewards to reap,
no loving embrace to see me through this tedious path I've chosen here,
I certainly would've walked away by now.
And I still may. And I still may. And I still may.

I'm gonna wait it out.
I'm gonna wait it out.
Gonna wait it out.
Gonna wait it out.
****************************************

Parabola

We barely remember who or what came before this precious moment,
We are Choosing to be here right now. Hold on, stay inside...
This holy reality, this holy experience. Choosing to be here in...

This body. This body holding me. Be my reminder here that I am not alone in
This body, this body holding me, feeling eternal all this pain is an illusion.

Alive

This holy reality, in this holy experience. Choosing to be here in...

This body. This body holding me. Be my reminder here that I am not alone in
This body, this body holding me, feeling eternal all this pain is an illusion...
Of what it means to be alive

Swirling round with this familiar parable.
Spinning, weaving round each new experience.
Recognize this as a holy gift and celebrate this
chance to be alive and breathing
chance to be alive and breathing.

This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality.
Embrace this moment. Remember. we are eternal.
all this pain is an illusion.

posted September 19, 2005 06:45 AM            

first n foremost id lik to no wat exactly is the meaning of the term "illuminati mind slave" coz i really don no wat it means

secondly id lik to mention that even though i come from a multicultural place lik india, there are certain things done in the name of religion that i really cant stand.........and i think are demonic.

u say "music is only wat the interpreters make it to be"
an incident comes to my mind.....some few years back, 2 guys shot themselves in the head for no apparent reason after listenin to the song "stairway to heaven"(if im not mistaken it was this song)...............which is allegedly backmasked....

i also want to mention that it is possible that i am wrong(actually i hope i am)......i mean ther r so many songs of hers that i really lik........but i really don wanna be influenced into doin somethin stupid if backmaskin does hav that effect on you..................n id also lik to add that i hope u realise this just a discussion n this is my point of view..........thot id mention this coz from wat iv seen around people get into a lot of misunderstandings

posted September 19, 2005 02:09 PM              

By the way... i looked up the meaning of your name... "an earthen candle"... wow...i was blown away by how beautiful a name it is. People are often given certain names for a reason you know. Perhaps your "diya" could provide the light for many.

OK... now to your queries..

Illuminati Mind Slave... well its a conspiracy theory that there's a secret organization that wants to create a whole government and kill all religions (and rumored to be the sworn enemy of the catholic church)...so they create mind slaves like celebs, politicians, businessmen etc etc... remember this is classified as a "conspiracy theory" so i cant really say if its true or not... only time would tell... i would suggest you read "Angels and Demons" by Dan Brown to get a picture about the illuminati.

Secondly, Sorry if i seemed condescending when i said "coming from a multicultural country like india"... i meant it in the nicest way... but i was just trying to throw light on terms like "demonic" and how wrongfully they have been used for centuries... Pagan cultures (including hinduism) were claimed as "demonic" by conservative patriarchal societies and were almost eradicated just because they were termed "demonic"... so i only wanted to tell you to 'understand' the true value of your words... besides.. if you Lexigram the word DEMONIC, you get : NO DEMON IN ME ... Something to think about it huh?

As far as madonna's songs being Backmasked.. i would like to see some of those sites that you used as a source so as to see how viable they can be... i have friends in the music industry so i can always refer here and there.

Stairway to Heaven is a complicated song that i will discuss at another time... but like i said before...Music is only what the interpreters make it to be.

I've seen friends be highly inspired by that song and write award winning essays/articles and be motivated to grow beyond their potentials...as well those who have fallen to the lowest of the low... so such a song is difficult to discuss in this forum.. but when the time is right i shall discuss it.

With that.. i shall leave with one Madonna song with a deep secret riddle i'll let you all try to solve.

LIVE TO TELL

written by Madonna and Pat Leonard

I have a tale to tell
Sometimes it gets so hard to hide it well
I was not ready for the fall
Too blind to see the writing on the wall

Chorus:

A man can tell a thousand lies
I've learned my lesson well
Hope I live to tell
The secret I have learned, 'till then
It will burn inside of me

I know where beauty lives
I've seen it once, I know the warm she gives
The light that you could never see
It shines inside, you can't take that from me

(chorus)

2nd Chorus:

The truth is never far behind
You kept it hidden well
If I live to tell
The secret I knew then
Will I ever have the chance again

If I ran away, I'd never have the strength
To go very far
How would they hear the beating of my heart
Will it grow cold
The secret that I hide, will I grow old
How will they hear
When will they learn
How will they know

Love and Light (of your diya)

Athena

posted September 19, 2005 02:17 PM              

WHY'S IT SO HARD?

Why's it so hard to love one another
Why's it so hard to love
(repeat)

What do I have to do to be accepted
What do I have to say
What do I have to do to be respected
How do I have to play
What do I have to look like to feel I'm equal
Where do I have to go
What club do I have to join to prove I'm worthy
Who do I have to know

Chorus:

I'm telling you brothers, sisters
Why can't we learn to challenge the system
Without living in pain
Brothers, sisters
Why can't we learn to accept that we're different
Before it's too late (first time only)
Why's it so damn hard (all other times)

What do I have to learn to know what's right for me
What do I have to know
What am I going to do when I feel righteous
Where do I have to go
Who should get to say what I believe in
Who should have the right
What am I going to do with all this anger
Why do I have to fight

(chorus)

Bring your love, sing your love
Wear your love, share your love
(repeat twice)

Bring your love, sing your love
Wear your love, show your sister how

Brothers, sisters, what do I have to say
Brothers, sisters, how do I have to play
Brothers, sisters, who should have the right
Brothers, sisters, why do I have to fight

Why's it so hard to love one another
Love your sister, love your brother
(repeat)

Why's it so hard to love one another
Why's it so hard to love

(chorus)

Sing your love
Share your love
(repeat 3 times)

Love your brother now
Show your sister how
Love your brother now
Show your sister
(repeat)

IN THIS LIFE

Sitting on a park bench
Thinking about a friend of mine
He was only 23
Gone before he had his time
It came without a warning
Didn't want his friends to see him cry
He knew the day was dawning
And I didn't have a chance to say goodbye

Chorus:

In this life I loved you most of all
What for?
'Cause now you're gone and I have to ask myself
What for?

What for?
Driving down the boulevard
Thinking about a man I knew
He was like a father to me
Nothing in the world that he wouldn't do
Taught me to respect myself
Said that we're all made of flesh and blood
Why should he be treated differently
Shouldn't matter who you choose to love

(chorus)

Intermediate:

People pass by and I wonder who's next
Who determines, who knows best
Is there a lesson I'm supposed to learn in this case
Ignorance is not bliss

(chorus)
(intermediate)

Have you ever watched your best friend die [what for]
Have you ever watched a grown man cry [what for]
Some say that life isn't fair [what for]
I say that people just don't care [what for]
They'd rather turn the other way [what for]
And wait for this thing to go away [what for]
Why do we have to pretend [what for]
Some day I pray it will end

I hope it's in this life
I hope it's in this life time
(repeat)

Love and Light

Athena

posted September 19, 2005 07:35 PM            

Morning has broken,like the first morning
Blackbird has spoken,like the first bird
Praise for the singing,Praise for the morning
Praise for the springing fresh from the word.

Sweet the rain's new fall,sunlit form heaven
Like the dewfall,on the first grass
Praise for the sweetness of the wet garden
Spring in completeness,where his feet pass.

Mine is the sunlight,mine is the morning
Born of the one light,Eden saw play
Praise with elation,praise every morning
God's recreation of the new day.

posted September 21, 2005 02:24 AM            

i did not no that hinduism was almost eradicated....n the lexigram........it definately is something to think about......

i went thru those sites really long back so i dont remember the names....but i remember doin a search on google abt backmasked music....ill try lookin up the sites if i can

thanks for the song .........ill try to figure out the riddle.........but from wat ive read.......does 'the fall'have anything to do with fallen angels n soulmates????????????

posted September 21, 2005 02:32 PM              

Glad i could help you out... and your name is indeed a beautiful one ... when you do numerology to it; the number 7 comes in its basic root form... 7 being the only number that divides infinity as well as the mysterious mystical number... you do have special powers within you Diya, i hope some day you can tap into them and reach your souls goal.. whats your sign by the way?

About hinduism being eradicated... well i wouldnt use that word, but if you study India's history; India is one such country that never conquered any other; infact it's the only country that was always invaded by others. Most of the "Indians" today are truly foreigners by origin... The Aryans were the first; they pushed the true "Indians" (Dravidians) to the south and Ceylon (Sri Lanka)... then the Greeks (Alexander).. the Moghuls...and the Brits. .. So you see, through out the centuries, the "true form" of hinduism seems to be deteriorating slowly and slowly... many a schollars of religion and divinity have often agreed that perhaps Hinduism was truly a powerful religion that was extremely similar to that of Egypt and Chaldea.. even most of the Mythological References are almost identical.

As well as i'm sure you must have read in your history books, when Aurengzeb took over, he went on a crusade to convert as many indians into the faith of islam, untill the 10th guru of Sikhism (Guru Gobind Singh Ji) fought for the rights of the oppressed hindus. If you think about it, the Hindus of India truly owe allot to the efforts of the heroic Sikhs.

But as time went by, most of the hindu philosophys were forgotten..and hence we're now left with a puzzle as to what was there truly... Perhaps that's why India is known to have so many "God-Men" who claim to know the ancient way, but then, can we really believe them?

Something to think about huh?

As for the song and the riddle. I suggest you try listening to the song. It's from her "True Blue" album and can also be found on the greatest hits compilation "The Immaculate Collection"

Love and Light

Athena

posted September 23, 2005 02:27 AM            

ill try to get hold of the song and listen to it

posted September 23, 2005 02:16 PM              

I'm a Scorpio..with an aquarius moon and libra ascendant

Here are a few songs i browsed upon... thought i'd share the lyrics with you.

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"I'm Like A Bird"

By Nelly Furtado

You're beautiful, that's for sure
You'll never ever fade
You're lovely but it's not for sure
That I won't ever change
And though my love is rare
Though my love is true

[Chorus:]
I'm like a bird, I'll only fly away
I don't know where my soul is, I don't know where my home is
(and baby all I need for you to know is)
I'm like a bird, I'll only fly away
I don't know where my soul is , I don't know where my home is
All I need for you to know is

Your faith in me brings me to tears
Even after all these years
And it pains me so much to tell
That you don't know me that well
And though my love is rare
Though my love is true

[Chorus]

It's not that I wanna say goodbye
It's just that every time you try to tell me that you love me
Each and every single day I know
I'm going to have to eventually give you away
And though my love is rare
And though my love is true
Hey I'm just scared
That we may fall through

"Turn Off The Light"

By Nelly Furtado

It's getting so lonely inside this bed
Don't know if I should lick my wounds or say woe is me instead
And there's an aching inside my head
It's telling me I'm better off alone
But after midnight morning will come
And the day will see if you will get some

[Chorus:]
They say that girl ya know she act too tough tough tough
Well it's till' I turn off the light, turn off the light
They say that girl you know she act so rough rough rough
Well it's till' I turn off the light, turn off the light
And I say follow me follow me follow me down down down down
till' you see all my dreams
Not everything in this magical world is quite what it seems

I looked above the other day
Cuz I think I'm good and ready for a change
I live my life by the moon
If it's high play it low, if it's harvest go slow and if it's full, then go
But after midnight morning will come
And the day will see if you're gonna get some

[Chorus]

I'm searching for things that I just cannot see
Why don't you don't you don't you come and be with me
I pretend to be cool with me, want to believe
That I can do it on my own without my heart on my sleeve
I'm running, I'm running, catch up with me life
Where is the love that I'm looking to find
It's all in me, can't you see, why can't you, why can't you see it's all in me

[Chorus]

Where is your logic
Who do you need
Where can you turn in your delicate time of need
Follow me down, follow me down down down,
I do not need I do not need nobody
Where is your logic
Who do you need
Where can you turn in your delicate time of need

"Powerless (Say What You Want)"

By Nelly Furtado

Paint my face in your magazines
Make it look whiter than it seems
Paint me over with your dreams
Shove away my ethnicity
Burn every notion that I may have a flame inside to fight
And say just what is on my mind
Without offending your might

Cuz this life is too short to live it just for you
But when you feel so powerless what are you gonna do
So say what you want
Say what you want

I saw her face outside today
Weatherworn, looking all the rage
They took her passion and her gaze and made a poster
Now it’s moccasins we sport
We take the culture and contort
Perhaps only to distort what we are hiding

Cuz this life is too short to live it just for you
But when you feel so powerless what are you gonna do
But say what you want
Say what you want

Hey you, the one, the one outside, are you ever gonna get in, get in
Hey you, the one that don’t fit in, how ya, how ya gonna get in
Hey you, the one outside, are you ever gonna get in with your
Broken teeth, broken jaw, broken mojo
Yeah, this life is too short to live it just for you
But when you feel so powerless, what are you gonna do

Cuz this life is too short to live it just for you
But when you feel so powerless, what are you gonna do
Cuz this life is too short to live it just for you
But when you feel so powerless, what are you gonna do
Say what you want, say what you want, say, say, say

Cuz this life is too short,
just for you

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Not particularly esoteric...but i think you all would know why i put it here

"Signs"

By Beyonce (feat. Missy Elliott)

In December every sign has it’s own mode
I was in love with a Sagittarius
See the emotions he put me through
From Capricorns to Aquarius
They all got their different minds
The affection of a Virgo
Which sign matches good with mine

I was in love with a Sagittarius he blew my mind
He also had a flip side too much like a Gemini
He was freaky like a Taurus the way he handled me yeah
Flirtatious like and Aries
Which sign is best for me?

Capricorn Aquarius Pisces Aries Taurus Gemini Cancer oh!
Leo Virgo Libra Scorpio Sagittarius
I love all y’all
Capricorn Aquarius Pisces Aries Taurus Gemini Cancer oh!
Leo Virgo Libra Scorpio Sagittarius
I love all y’all

I wish he was a Virgo, the same sign as me
And know how to show me love, cause I’ve been hurt by a Pisces
REWIND
I wish he was a Virgo, the same sign as me
And know how to show me love, cause I’ve been hurt by a Pisces
I want him sexy like a Scorpio
The way he holds me close yeah
Sensitive as a Cancer
Every sign from coast to coast

Capricorn Aquarius Pisces Aries Taurus Gemini Cancer oh!
Leo Virgo Libra Scorpio Sagittarius
I love all y’all
Capricorn Aquarius Pisces Aries Taurus Gemini Cancer oh!
Leo Virgo Libra Scorpio Sagittarius
I love all y’all

I can’t explain why I love him
Bossy like Leo’s do
Got game like an Aquarius
Switch moves after he’s been with you
Fine like a libra
He stays on my mind
He’s so unpredictable
He reminds me of every sign

Capricorn Aquarius Pisces Aries Taurus Gemini Cancer oh!
Leo Virgo Libra Scorpio Sagittarius
I love all y’all
Capricorn Aquarius Pisces Aries Taurus Gemini Cancer oh!
Leo Virgo Libra Scorpio Sagittarius
I love all y’all

Every sign from the first to the last
Everyday of the month has its good and its bad
I love you all, all12 signs

Capricorn Aquarius Pisces Aries Taurus Gemini Cancer oh!
Capricorn Aquarius Pisces Aries Taurus Gemini Cancer oh!
Capricorn Aquarius Pisces Aries Taurus Gemini Cancer oh!

Every one of these signs you know you blowing me away
No matter when you’re born for sure with me you okay
I love every one of y’all no matter what sign you are
January to December here’s my open arms

I was in love with a Sagittarius [repeat out]

Love and Light

Athena

posted September 25, 2005 02:24 PM              

"Crucify"

Every finger in the room
is pointing at me
I wanna spit in their faces
Then I get afraid of what that could bring
I got a bowling ball in my stomach
I got a desert in my mouth
Figures that my courage would choose to sell our now
I've been looking for a savior in these dirty streets
looking for a savior beneath these dirty sheets
I've been raising up my hands
Drive another nail in
Just what God needs
One more victim

::Chorus:
Why do we
Crucify ourselves
Every day
I crucify myself
Nothing I do is good enough for you
Crucify myself
Every day
And my heart is sick of being in chains

Got a kick for a dog
Beggin' for Love
I gotta have my suffering
So that I can have my cross
I know a cat named Easter
He says will you ever learn
You're just an empty cage girl
If you kill the bird
I've been looking for a savior in these dirty streets
looking for a savior beneath these dirty sheets
I've been raising up my hands
Drive another nail in
Got enough guilt to start
my own religion
Please be
Save me
I cry

::Chorus:
Why do we
Crucify ourselves
Every day
I crucify myself
Nothing I do is good enough for you
Crucify myself
Every day
And my heart is sick of being in chains

Love and Light

Athena

posted September 30, 2005 09:46 AM            

I've always been a big, big fan of Madonna!!!

Have many CD's, books, video's also on her!!!

That song " Live To tell" I always was told that it was about he Father molesting her as a child and trying to hold on to this secret well into adulthood and her father taking this to his grave. (Not in real life)

Sad Song

posted September 30, 2005 10:32 AM            

Anyone had the pleasure of hearing, or having this simply beautiful music before?

Women of Song:

Through the mists of time immemorial, the voice of woman has been a beacon for humankind, guiding the heart and illuminating the soul. The traditional and contemporary songs on this CD feature twelve extraordinary celtic-influenced vocal artists, each reflecting a unque connection with the human journey and the Celtic Mystique!!!

posted September 30, 2005 11:00 AM            

Written by: Loreena Mc Kennitt,

In the end, I wonder if one of the most important steps on our journey is the one in which we throw away the map. In jettisoning the grids and brambles of our preconceptions, perhaps we are better able to find the real secrets; to remember that we are all extensions of our collective history.

These songs have been assembled like a mosaic, with pieces collected and fitted in one by one. They are also the souvenirs that come of sifting through shards of history and scraping away layers to reveal the fragile past, as I saw in Italy at an archaeological site at Chianciano Terme where ancient Roman layers reveal even more Etruscan layers, or at the burial site of a mysterious Celtic chief in Orvieto.

My hope was that this recording might fuel curiosity in the same way as do the best books of travel stories. From all juorneys, be they imaginative or geograghic, the most important souvenirs to be collected are the reminders that people's lives are fortifed by family and freinds; by our ability to create our lives like creating a piece of art; and by our efforts to reconcile our material needs with the importance of our connections to each other.

posted September 30, 2005 03:18 PM              

Well...we both have something in common... Madonna Fans!!! By the way..Her new album "Confessions on a Dance Floor" is releasing in November... the first single, "Hung Up" debuts on radio on the 17th of October...(17 being the star of venus)...and the video debuts on the 24th (24 = power money and creativity)

Interesting take on Live to Tell... but that's actually the myth relating to "Oh Father"... however that song is actually about her coming to terms with her father marrying after her mother died, she always felt a void growing up without her mother and felt her father was just abandoning her mother by remarrying again... so that's actually a love letter to her father....

Although some feel its to do with her apologizing to Jesus for the whole Like a Prayer video fiasco (oh father i have sinned)

Oh Father
written by Madonna and Patrick Leonard
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It's funny that way, you can get used
To the tears and the pain
What a child will believe
You never loved me

Chorus:

You can't hurt me now
I got away from you, I never thought I would
You can't make me cry, you once had the power
I never felt so good about myself

Seems like yesterday
I lay down next to your boots and I prayed
For your anger to end
Oh Father I have sinned

(chorus)

Oh Father you never wanted to live that way
You never wanted to hurt me
Why am I running away
(repeat)

Maybe someday
When I look back I'll be able to say
You didn't mean to be cruel
Somebody hurt you too

(chorus)

*************

Have you heard of Blackmore's Knight?
If not you have to hear "Fires at Midnight" and "Ghost of a Rose"... hauntingly beautiful

Love and Light

Athena