posted April 22, 2006 04:38 AM              

In regards to your quote... ponder it... think about that...Going back to what you and I discussed about you going to LA frequently and how I think it is not a coincidence...How are your trips to LA recently?

posted April 22, 2006 08:01 AM              

You were the 100th. poster here!

OK.....
I have brought this up before...
Anyone here have a singing bowl and use it?

posted April 22, 2006 01:05 PM            

What you have just descrided is something that I occasionally experience for brief moments when I am alone and surrounded by nuture.

Yes. Zen masters use the word satori to describe a flash of insight, a moment of no-mind and total presence. Althouh satori is not a lasting transformation, be grateful when it comes, for it gives you a taste of enlightenment. You may, indeed, have experienced it many times without knowing what it is and realizing its importance. Presence is neede to become aware of the beauty, the majesty, the sacredness of nature. Have you ever gazed up into the infinity of space on a clear night, awestruck by the absolute stillness and inconceivable vastness of it? Have you listened, truly listened, to the sound of a mountain stream in the forest? Or to the song of a blackbird at dusk on a quiet summer evening? To become aware of such things, the mind needs to be still. You have to put down for a moment your personal baggageof problems, of past and future, as well as all your knowledge; otherwise, you will see but not see, hear but not hear. your total presence is required.

Beyond The beauty of the external forms, there is more here: something that cannot be named, something ineffable, some deep. inner, holy essence. Whenever and wherever there is beauty, this inner essence shines through somehow. It only reveals itself to you when you are present. could it be that this nameless essence and your presence are one and the same? Would it be there without there your presence? Go deeply into it. Find out for yourself.

When you experience those moments of presence, you likely didn't realize that you were brielfy in a state of no-mind. This is because the gap between that state and the influx of thought was too narrow. Your satori may only have lasted for a few seconds before the mind came in, but it was there; otherwise, you would not have experienced the beauty. Mind can neither recognize nor create beauty. Only for a few seconds, while you were completely present, was that beauty or that sacredness there. Because of the narrowness of the gap and a lack of vigilance and alertness on your part, you were probably unable to see the fundamental difference between the perception, the thought-less awareness of beauty, and the naming and interpreting of it as though: the time gap was so small it seemed to be a single process. The truth is, however, that the moment thought came in, all you had was a momory of it.

The wider the time gap between perception and thought, the more depth there is to you as a human being, which is to say the more conscious you are. Many people are so imprisoned in their minds that the beauty of nature does not really exist for them. They might say, "What a pretty flower," but that's just a mechanical mental labeling. Because they are not still, not present, they don't truly see the flower, don't feel its essence, its holiness--just as they don't know themselves, don't feel their own essence, theirown holiness.

Because we live in such a mind-dominated culture, most modern art, architecture, music, and literature are devoid of beauty, of inner essence, with very few exceptions. The reason is that the people who create those things cannot-- even for a moment--free themselves from their mind. So they are nevey in touch with that place within where true creativity and beauty arise. The mind left to itself creates monstrosities, and not only in art galleries. Look at our urban landscapes and industrial wastelands. No civilization has ever produced so much ugliness.

Words from Eckhart Tolle

posted April 22, 2006 02:35 PM            

Is presence the same as Being?

When you become conscious of Being, what is really happening is that Being becomes conscious of itself. when Being becomes consciuos of itself--that's presence. Sense Being, conscious, and life are synonymous, we could say that presence means conscious of itself, or life attaining self-consciousness. But don't get attached to the words, and don't make an effort to understand this. There is nothing that you need to understand before you can become present.

I do understand what you just said, but it semms to imply that Being, the ultimate transcendental reality, is not yet complete, that it is undergoing a process of development. Does God need time for personal growth?

Yes, but only as seen from the limited perspective of the manifested universe. In the bible, God declares:"I am the Alpha and the Omega, and I am the living One."In the realm where God dwells, which is also your home, the beginning and the end, the Alpha and the Omega, are one, and the essence of everything that ever has been and ever will be is eternally present in a unmanifested state of oneness and prefection--totally beyond anything the humand mind can ever imagine or comprehind. In our world of seemingly separate forms, however, timeless perfection is an inconceivable concept. Here even consciousness, which is the light emanating from the eternal Source, seems to be subect to a process of development, but this is due to our limited perception. It is not so in absolute terms. Nevertheless, let me continue to speack for a moment about the evolution of consciousness in this world.

Everything that exsists has Being, has God-essence, has some degree of consciousness. Even a stone has rudimentary consciousness; otherwise, it would not be, and its atom and molecules would dispenerse.
Everything is alive. The sun, the earth, plants, animals, humans--all are expressions of consciuosness in varying degrees, consciousness manifesting as form. The world arises when consciousness on shapes and forms, thought forms and material forms. Look at the millions of life forms on the planet alone. In the sea, on land, in the air-- and then each life form is replicated millions of times. To what end? Is someone or something playing a game, a game with form? This is what the ancients seers of India asked themselves. They saw the world as lila, a kind of divine game that God is playing. The individual life forms are obviously not very important in this game. in the sea, most life forms don't survive for more than a few minutes after being born. The human form turns to dust pretty quickly too, and when it is gone it is as if it had never been. Is that tragic or cruel? Only if you create a separate identity for each form, if you forget that its consciousness is God-essence expressing itself in form. But you don't truly know that until you realize your own God-essence as prue consciousness.

If a fish is born in your aquarium and you call it John, write out a birth certificate, tell him about his family history, and two minutes later he gets eaten by another fish-- that's tragic. But it's only tragic because you projected a separate self where there was none. You got hold of a fraction of a dynamic process, a molecular dance, and made a separate enity out of it.

Consciousness takes on the disguise of forms until they reach such complexity that it completely loses itself in them. In present-day humans, consciuosness is completely identified with its disguise. It only knows itself as form and therefor lives in fear of the annihilations of its physical or psychological form. This is the egoic mind, and this is where considerable dysfunction sets in. It now looks as if something had gone very wrong somewhere along the line of evolution. But even this is part of lila, the divine game. Finally, the pressure of suffing created by this apparent dysfunction forces consciuosness to disidentify from and awaken it from its dream of form: it regains self-consciousness, but it is at far deeper level than when it lost it.This process is explained by Jesus in his parable of the lost son, who leaves his father's home, squanders his wealth, becomes desitute, and is then forced by his suffing to return home. When he does, fahter loves him more than before. The son's state is the same as it was before, yet not the same. It has an added dimension of depth. The parable describes a journey from unconsciuos perfection, through apparent imperfection and "evil" to conscious perfection.

posted April 22, 2006 03:28 PM            

Already for most humans, the only respite they find from their own minds is to occasionally revert to a level of consciousness below thought. Everyone does that every night during sleep. But this also happens to some extent through sex, alcolol. and other drugs that suppress excessive mind activity. If it weren't for alcolol, tranquilizers, antidepressants, as well as the illegal drugs, which are all consumed in vast quantities, the insanity of the human mind would become even more glaringly obvious than it is already. I believe that, if deprived of their drugs. a large part of the population would become a danger to themselves and others. These drugs, of course, simply keep you stuck in dysfunction. Their widespread use only delays the breakdown of the old mind structures and the emergence of higher consciousness. While individual users may get some relief from the daily torture inflicted on them by their minds, they are prevented from generating enough conscious presence to rise above thought and so find true liberation.

Falling back to a level of consciousness below mind, which is the pre-thinking level of our distant ancestors and of animals and plants, is not an option for us. There is no way back. If the human race is to survive. it will have to go on to the next stage. Consciousness is evolving throughout the universe in billions of forms. So even if we didn't make it, this wouldn't matter on a cosmic scale. No gain in consciousness is ever lost. so it would simply express itself through some other form. But the very fact that I am speaking here and you are gaining a foothold on the planet.

There is nothing personal in this: I am not teaching you. You are consciuosness, and you are listening to yuorself. Ther is an Eastern saying: "The teacher and the taught together create the teaching." In any case. the words in themselves are not important. They are not the Truth; they only point to it. I speak from presence, and as I speak , you may be able to join me in that state. Although every word that I use has a history, of course, and comes from the past, as all language does, the words that I speck to you now are carriers of the high-energy frequency of presence, qiute apart from the meaning they convey as words.

Silence is an even more potent carrier of essence, so when you read this or listen to me speak, be aware of the silence between and underneath the words. Beware of the gaps. To listen to the silence, wherever you are, is an easy and direct way of becoming present. Even if there is noise, there is always some silence underneath and in between the sounds. Listening to the silence immediately creates stillness inside you. Only the stilness in you can perceive the silence outside. And what is stillness other than persence, consciousness freed from thought forms? Here is the living realization of what we have been talking about.

posted April 22, 2006 04:43 PM              

OK.....
I have brought this up before...
Anyone here have a singing bowl and use it?"

Hey Fayte based on your quote... what does 100 stand for? and hey, I don't know about a singing bowl... but guess what... I just bought a large crystal bowl (it is great for meditation) from my Korean friend I just met not long ago... I am also learning arch-pressure....

I hope Everyone is having a great day!

posted April 22, 2006 05:04 PM            

Yes truth is in the heart. When Jesus ascended to heaven he replied "You will not see me for a while. But I will send you an advocate. He/she (its bit controversial here as regarding the gender to some people) will dwelve in your heart and you may not see it. But know that he too is one with God."

I just paraphrased above so forgive me everyone. The original verses from John are much beautiful. As I always mention by that reading, we are the light bearers of this world. Each one is given the responsibility to illuminate the path of others.

Hi SolaneStar,
I only read your first post and enjoyed it. I want to give some time before reading the other posts with attention.

Going back to the first post, do you believe that "satori" can also be given from one person to the other? But this other person has to still his mind as well.

posted April 22, 2006 05:20 PM              

Quote:
"As I always mentioned, we are the light bearers of this world. Each one is given the responsibility to illuminate the path of others."

Brilliant words you say... you know, I believe we are the Miracle... we can all make a Miracle....

Cheers,

posted April 22, 2006 05:26 PM              

MANNU

MAN U
NUN
A NUN
U NAM(E)

posted April 22, 2006 05:43 PM              

Here is another hint that Linda Goodman wrote when she Lexigrams Messiah in Star Signs:

The word Messiah contains the following ringing words, as a message to those whose Third Eyes are open to truth:

HE IS HIM... HE IS SAME AS HIM... HE IS SHE... SHE IS HIM... HE IS SAME AS ME... I AM SAME AS HIM.. SHE IS SAME AS HIM....

Truth here....

posted April 22, 2006 06:13 PM              

The word "Sun" in Universe has another layered, more deeply hidden meaning, referring to our lost Sun (our second Sun lost eaons ago)

so WoW (turn the W and means MoM) UNIVERSE LEXIGRAMS INTO:

Sun... Venus...Nurse...Seer...Us...Eve... Even...

Hmmm... so, "Sun" giver of life and our lost second Sun... and "Venus" love for life and others through compassion and forgiveness.... "Nurse" oh, mother earth, nursing us and we can help the same way... "Seer" yes, prophets-- Avatars, Gurus (and G you are U) Messiahs... which many are... being in the world but no longer of this world--- transcending... "US" we can do it together...We can make a miracle... we can make this a better place because Together Everyone Achieves More... which reminds me of the song We are the world... and Linda's His Rainbow Her Snowflakes... wise words yes symbolic but insightful..."Eve" oh, another reminder to open the the Third Eye to the truth of that sneaky serpent and the Apple. and oh, yes, "Even" Perfect balance and Harmony... Equality!

Wishing you all always the best!

posted April 22, 2006 06:29 PM              

LOTUSHEARTONE

HEARS HER HEART
HEARS OTHERS HEARTS
0 U ARE A TONE HEART
TAUR(U)S U ARE
SEER U ARE
SURE U ARE A SEER
RA TOO
US (U) HEAR

posted April 22, 2006 06:38 PM              

FATE
MAY
ME MY
ATE FATE

CHEERS