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Topic: ~Getting off the Karmic "Payback Wheel"~.
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Mannu
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From: always here and no where
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2006 08:09 PM
  
Yeah....return love. Nothing stays permanent in our lower states.
Fool eventually becomes wise. Wise becomes fool.Our heart is the place of compassion as well as the place of deceit. All is one , one is All. Rabbi is God, God is Rabbi. How can one hate ones own future? Therefore return love every step of the way. Avoidance of ignorant person is not hatred. Hmmm someone can quote me on that statement i.e.
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How can one hate ones own future?
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Lialei
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posted June 23, 2006 10:27 PM
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It’s tough though… Especially when you don’t remember what you did wrong and you keep being punched.
It is very tough to let go, especially when all fingers are pointing to a crime you know you never committed. Something you wouldn't
begin to think of doing. 
I could empathize with what you wrote, steelrose. thanks for sharing.  quote:
Avoidance of ignorant person is not hatred.
I don't know why I found that so adorable and amusing.
It's very true, Mannu. You can trust and hope again and again, but eventually you have to realize the person is not on the same frequency and is holding you in one you don't belong in. That isn't hate. It's sad. But not hate. To continue onwards to more blissful experiences your soul is hoping you'll choose to keep journeying onwards into and explore, instead of remaining stagnant and suppressed, denying possible beautiful potentials. as always, thank you, Mannu IP: Logged |
Mannu
Knowflake Posts: 45
From: always here and no where
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2006 02:52 AM
 >>>When we get inside and our stop arrives, we see no one behind us. Those include our friends, spouse or even parents. I am inclined to believe that I may not see my dead father again. May be not for a while. He got down in that last station where the train stopped.
[Those are my beliefs anyways] IP: Logged |
silverstone
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posted June 24, 2006 04:38 AM
Hi Mannu...I believe you will see your father again, if you haven't already... I can see that his wisdom lives in you! Lialei, beautiful comments; I admire your respect and understanding for others as it is truly seen in your responses.
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Lialei
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posted June 24, 2006 12:51 PM
Thanks for your kindness and faith, silverstone. It means a lot. IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted June 24, 2006 11:47 PM
Kat, Mannu, Lia, Steelrose, Silverstone!
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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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lotusheartone
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posted June 24, 2006 11:50 PM
hehe..it must be a club!
Love and Respect for ALL
ManKinds. ... IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted June 25, 2006 12:51 AM
Psst..Kat..you are not part of the club. ...
Love is ALL. .
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Lialei
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posted June 25, 2006 01:09 AM
Respect is meant as a Mutual exchange.With a special kind of respect for those who are True to the principles they espouse. Who don't attempt to humiliate others to higher themselves.
Or mask their vindictiveness with sugary words. Those, who under the most challenging of situations, don't resort to meeting spite with spite, nor ignorance with ignorance. IP: Logged |
Lialei
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posted June 25, 2006 01:13 AM
fayte,
wish I weren't a graphics dweeb. is the best I can do. IP: Logged |
Mannu
Knowflake Posts: 45
From: always here and no where
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 25, 2006 01:16 AM
Me too!!!
To Lotusheartone, We are all a part of one big club called homosapiens.
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silverstone
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posted June 25, 2006 03:38 AM
Lotus with all respect... Don't be rude! You need to let go of negativity and incorporate the positive... and that my dear is part of "LOVE AND RESPECT FOR ALL" This is not Elementary School-- what are you 10 years old? ------------------
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sue g
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posted June 25, 2006 05:45 AM
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lotusheartone
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posted June 25, 2006 09:03 AM
well..it figures..I just got out of work..I started at 4..to come back to more NOnsense..I am not here to be your friend..to kiss your butt..or back up the fact..that you don't practice what you preach..actions speak loud and clear..
consider me..like..a parent..not friend..
there is wrong and there is right
and you will have to choose a side
it's just the way it is. ... you are the company you keep..
and when I see of group of brown nosers
I will point it out. ... think whatever you like..you do anyways. . IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted June 25, 2006 09:35 AM
you know..betrayal..is forgiven by me..but not forgotten..they are lessons..everything happens for a reason..and I can say that so much growth and learning..has come from this whole fiasco..of KS..in Global Unity. ...you will have to earn..my respect..back. . Plain and Simple... IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted June 25, 2006 09:52 AM
Oh..and yes..I released my inner child last night..she was the most efective way to point out bluntly..the Truth. ...You must go within..you must know..your inner child, your woman, and your crone..
past, present and future
then MInd to HigherSelf
to OverSoul=GOD. . we are all their children..know thySelf.. all equally part of the whole... IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
Knowflake Posts: 474
From: ON Canada
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 25, 2006 11:58 AM
Yes,Lotus..... turning a nice spiritual exchange into a petty name calling is very high and mighty of you.If you don't like it, don't point fingers and name call.
No one asked you... Like you said...
Just ignore it, don't post.
Simple.
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pixelpixie
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From: ON Canada
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 25, 2006 11:59 AM
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silverstone
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posted June 25, 2006 12:51 PM
Lotus,What is your problem? Frankly, I do not understand... seriously! Maybe you need to get some sleep. ------------------
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lotusheartone
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posted June 25, 2006 12:52 PM
I know you do not understand, Silverstone..go within. ...IP: Logged |
steelrose
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From: Spain
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 26, 2006 03:39 AM
Mannu,I cannot agree more. Avoidance is not hatred. And it’s the best treatment for toxic souls. Just let’s keep them away from us with silence. They only intend hurt so when you close the door ignoring them, you frustrate their goal. And the cycle gets broken… Isn’t this a way of turning the other cheek? Thanks, Lialei… 
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sue g
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posted June 26, 2006 04:26 AM
"Avoidance is not hatred"Aaahh what a relief to have someone say this!!! Not it is not hatred, it just takes great strength, maturity and self discipline, all of which each and everyone of us may wish to practise... And only then will the negativity disappear. But of course, there will always be those souls that get off on this  Maybe pray for them.....  IP: Logged |
sue g
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posted June 26, 2006 04:29 AM
And my prayer isFrom this day forward Lord I will attempt to avoid all people of a toxic and negative disposition, unless of course they shows signs of moving forward and healing......... Amen. IP: Logged |
Lialei
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posted June 26, 2006 11:45 AM
I agree that avoidance on a personal level is sometimes necessary to break free of martyristic karmic cycles. Especially if it is clear there is no hope of growth or understanding. But I wonder...it seems like that's the problem with the world as a whole these days. The apathetic, self-absorbed, "as long as it not happening to me" attitude. I have an easier time avoiding someone who is insulting me, than I do when I see other people being degraded or harmed. Avoidance in these cases, I wonder if isn't enabling a cycle to continue. Sometimes, I believe, it takes greater courage and strength to speak up when it's needed. To hope to make other's accountable for their actions. Sitting back and doing nothing while others are being hurt...wanting to be free of negativity...isn't this discompassionate and self-focused? The reality is there are manipulative people in this world. The reality is there is negative happening to innocent people. Avoiding 'negative' is to avoid humanity.
I always admire brave people who, for no personal reward in sight for their efforts, but just from caring for others, take a stand for injustice. There's a larger picture, and collective karma as well as individual karma.
If we allow harm to others, are we inviting that karma to return to us? ~And unto whomsover much is given, of him much shall be required. Luke 12:48~ We were given the gifts of dexterity and intelligence on this Earth, therefore isn't it our place to be the care-takers of animals and innocence? IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted June 26, 2006 12:32 PM
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Avoidance of ignorant person is not hatred.
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And it’s the best treatment for toxic souls. Just let’s keep them away from us with silence. They only intend hurt so when you close the door ignoring them, you frustrate their goal. And the cycle gets broken"
So true. But my mother still continues even though ignored. She chooses usually the following days to do her stuff.
The date my sister was killed...Valentine's day...Good Friday...Easter...Mother's Day...Memorial Day...Father's Day...My father's birthday...Her birthday...Halloween...My birthday...My dead sister's birthday...Christmas Eve and Christmas day. Sometimes New years eve and Day too.
My mother believes she is the saviour of mankind and Christ's bride. And damns me for not being a Christian and damns my gay/bi/TG and my black friends. She screams death threats at me on the phone messages, that she gave me life and she can take it away.
She said that she can come like a "thief in the night" to see that the Lord's holy vengence done.(I have had to get restraining orders against her) She threatens my husband that she will come kill him if he has my body cremated if I should pass first.(my living will states that is my orders, cremation). She then tells me she "Loves and Respects" me and Loves all people just like Jesus does, and then tells me I am evil for fornicating with queers. Fornicating is her word for being friends with gay/bi/TG folk, with or without sexual involvement. She goes on and on about gay sexual acts and goes on shreiking about me consorting with the sodomites and nig&ers. Black folk are black because their souls were burned by Satan in her opinion. Then more love and holy white light and all comes out of her mouth again followed by hate and death threats.
During my parents' divorce she tried to seduce a gay man and he rejected her. She tried to pin my rape on him when she knew it was her own Baptist brother who did it and not that gentle dear gay man.(A friend not a relative, she did not realize he was gay) Then she preaches about lying and bearing false witness being sins. Her brother went on to kill my bi Uncle(his 1/2 brother) who had a daughter with the same name as me. He raped her too some 15 years after he raped me.Weird.
Her favorite Halloween costume is a nun's habit.
Yeah, she does Halloween.  And passes out Christian Baptist tractates to trick-or-treaters with little chocolate crosses.
To her sex is only for procreation and the only reason I had 26 misscarriages, some early stillbirths, is because I am damned and my pregnancies were made upon me by incubi & demons. The Lord God Almighty and his Angels told her that! (She calls me a liar when I say I love God and know God.)
Then she would send sympathy cards for some of my losses and how she loves me and Jesus loves me, and if I would just Please listen to her wisdom the Lord told her and his Holy angels who visit her...and give her the LOVE and RESPECT she give to ALL, that I would not have to give birth to dead demons anymore.
She tells me to seek deep "Within" for the truth and to be a warrior against the sodomites and the Catholics and to help the Lord wipe their evil spoor from the face of the earth. Pray to the Lord All mighty to send A.I.D.S to kill them all. God works in mysterious ways and his plagues will cleanse mankind. Then back she goes to spouting Love Thy Neighbor and honor thy Mother & Father. This can go on some days for up to 19 messages left on my answering machine. So is it no wonder that it is hard for me at these forums to ignore certain similar attitudes and insults at me mixed with spookily almost the same holier than thou love and respect for all verbal garbage being preached and spewed at me just as she does? Rant over for now. The thought of her makes me want to vomit.
She is an alcoholic.
Do I hate her? I do not know what to feel about her but pity and disgust and fear of what she might try next. When she visits her friends in Scotland and Ireland she acts normal. Why? Who knows. Maybe because she goes off the bottle then and takes her meds?
???? I ignore her.
It is all I can do. IP: Logged |
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