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Topic: Depression/mania/anxiety/& general rotten feelings, rant on here~
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marsconjunctmercury unregistered
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posted July 22, 2006 08:22 PM
Good thread. I get depressed about my family. If it weren't for them i would be full of joy. When i try to seperate myself from them i'm made to feel guilty. What should i do? I am at the stage where i feel the only person we're close to is god and that's all we need focus our behavior around ? Obviously it's said that we should 'honour they father, honour they mother'. Is it dis-honouring them if they never hear from you again? Surely that's just neutral and although drastic, it's for the best? ------------------ Forum Administrator. 4th December 1974 18:00GMT Southampton UK Always out-numbered. Never out-gunned. IP: Logged |
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posted July 23, 2006 12:40 AM
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posted July 23, 2006 12:29 PM
marsconjunct, Acoustic God sent me this quote recently~"A person needs at intervals to separate from family and companions and go to new places. One must go without familiars in order to be open to influences, to change." - Katharine Butler Hathaway He noticed it sounded very Sagittarian and I agreed. Sometimes we need to break free...and it doesn't mean we don't care or are selfish. This is how we rebirth ourselves into the next stage our soul's are meant to progress and journey to. The bars on the cage are an illusion. (they always were). Any moment you choose, you have the freedom to soar out of the cage into all your own most beautiful dreams and possibilities. Nothing is ever holding you back. Best wishes to you, kindred Sag/Leo. (btw~ sorry not to get back to you on the other thread. Yes, you are appreciated. Yes, you are liked. just don't take that as a power-trip over me, lol. ...well, I have your same 'truth at all costs', but not sure how ready you are for all that. )
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posted July 23, 2006 12:38 PM
D, I left a message for you in the Astrology forum in your natal thread.{{{ }}} (big astral hug) What you say about Fayte is true. She is always there for others, no matter how down she's feeling herself. I'm ever amazed to learn of how many people she communicates with...listens to and helps. Yet, she keeps this quiet to herself and is modest about it. I think she deserves so much in return for all she gives. IP: Logged |
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posted July 24, 2006 01:54 AM
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posted July 25, 2006 03:43 AM
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posted July 25, 2006 04:51 AM
Mars,You can still honour yer parents, without seeing them... I rarely see my family, we live in different countries,but I tell them how much I love them. I tell them I dont agree with their views at times, but still care and love them. They honour me, and I them....but they are not a part of my physical life...(always in my heart though). Its tough i know, and I suppose its tough love at times...but you will get there...its about opening the heart, when the time is right for you, and understanding of course.... Good luck.... IP: Logged |
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posted July 25, 2006 09:48 AM
After years of physical and then emotional abuse by my family I HAD to let them go.Blood is thicker than water and it can clot and become diseased. My family and my relationship with them was a disease. If those people had not been kin, I would NEVER had picked them for friends. NEVER! They are nasty bigoted and worse. Breaking from them and their games and cruelties was the best thing for me. Do I honor and respect them? HELL NO! If they were not relatives I would not love, honor or respect them! So let go of the outmoded and illogical social concept that blood means you must love honor and respect as$holes, bigots. jerks and generally mean nasty manipulatove selfserving co-dependant freakazoids! I pick who I consider my "family", I did not choose those with whom I just happened to get stuck with. Being family gives them no right to abuse you, and you are not bound to them, unless you want to be. Sperm does not a real loving father make, nor a womb that carried you indicate automatic love. Blood between siblings is just that. Nothing more. Do not confuse biological connections with true soul connections. Animals eat their young. Many biological human families do the social psychological equivalent to each other. Abuse is abuse. Does a rapist who impregnates a woman derserve love and respect from the resulting child conceived of rape? HELL NO! A family who abuses you is just as undeserving as that rapist of your love honor and respect. ------------------ ~I intend to continue learning forever~Enigma ~I am still learning~ Michangelo The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.~Enigma The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.~NEXUS Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.~Enigma In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem. -NEXUS- IP: Logged |
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posted July 25, 2006 10:08 AM
marsconjunctmercury Ask yourself... Be brutally honest about this. If you NEVER saw your family again would it bother you? And if you say yes, then ask yourself honestly, WHY would it bother you. If the answers are not from your heart, but are only the result of social guilt, as in, "but they are my family", or I "should" be this way or that because they are my "family". Then think about why you need or want them. If they were not relatives would you have anything to do with them? If they were unrelated and you would not want them in your life, then let them go. You must decide if you would be happier with or without them.Thanks D for Defiant! Beloved LiaLei Thank you dear lady! But even I have very bad times where I cannot help others. When my body will not cooperate with me and forgets it is my body. This past Sunday morning as you know was very very bad. Like I said I thought I was not going to make it. But I am back. Bodies can sure be trouble at times. Love to you all KEEP TALKING! Later folks! ------------------ ~I intend to continue learning forever~Enigma ~I am still learning~ Michangelo The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.~Enigma The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.~NEXUS Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.~Enigma In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem. -NEXUS- IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2006 11:07 AM
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posted July 26, 2006 11:16 AM
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posted July 31, 2006 02:00 PM
My mood and life of late.
------------------ ~I intend to continue learning forever~Enigma ~I am still learning~ Michangelo The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.~Enigma The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.~NEXUS Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.~Enigma In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem. -NEXUS- IP: Logged |
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posted July 31, 2006 03:05 PM
very cute. if I could find a picture of a manic kitty that'd be me. IP: Logged |
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posted July 31, 2006 03:08 PM
Hee hee hee! Just trying to brighten my mood! This one tears me up too:
------------------ ~I intend to continue learning forever~Enigma ~I am still learning~ Michangelo The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.~Enigma The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.~NEXUS Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.~Enigma In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem. -NEXUS- IP: Logged |
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posted July 31, 2006 03:10 PM
moving but getting nowhere! ------------------ ~I intend to continue learning forever~Enigma ~I am still learning~ Michangelo The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.~Enigma The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.~NEXUS Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.~Enigma In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem. -NEXUS-
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posted July 31, 2006 03:42 PM
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posted August 03, 2006 12:19 PM
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posted August 03, 2006 01:28 PM
Did you call yer mother the "c" word.....?Wow.....thats a lot of anger you have there for her.... Sorry to hear this....... Hope you can work through it one day...... IP: Logged |
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posted August 03, 2006 02:05 PM
D for Defiant I am with you on the mothers from some hell. Mine is one. We cannot fix them.. They are never going to change until they die. Sorry Sue g but the best to do with insane and really nasty mothers is to stay far away.Hope you can free yourself from her DfD. You cannot change her so move on away from her the best you can. Read up on this...sounds like it might be her problem: Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome http://home.coqui.net/myrna/munch.htm http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001555.htm http://www.merck.com/mrkshared/mmanual/section15/chapter185/185d.jsp I wish you luck.
------------------ Age is a State of Mind. Change Your Mind! ~I intend to continue learning forever~Enigma ~I am still learning~ Michangelo The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.~Enigma The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.~NEXUS Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.~Enigma In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem. -NEXUS-
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posted August 03, 2006 02:29 PM
Sorry ladies for the way yer mothers are.....That is terrible......I just cant imagine how it would feel to have my son feel like this about me..... All the more reason to be loving and kind with our precious children hey? IP: Logged |
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