posted January 14, 2008 09:21 AM              

I do feel that there are those who do respect all life. Sadly, much of what Silverstone posted has some very disturbing Vibes of truth to it.

posted January 14, 2008 09:53 AM              

Several ancient peoples all over the world have described reptilian beings, and some have described reptilian humanoids. Common in numerous mythologies are tales of reptilian creatures (usually not humanoid) who are often, but not always, hostile to human beings. Also rather common are the myths of "Serpents of Wisdom" who enlightened humanity before the dawn of civilization.
The Americas

The Toltec Mayan god Gucumatz was described as a "serpent of wisdom" who enlightened humankind. His Aztec counterpart was named Quetzalcoatl. In the Yucatan, he is called Kukulcan.

The Hopi refer to a race of reptoids called the Sheti, or "Snake-Brothers", who live underground. The Cherokee and other Native American peoples also refer to reptoid races.

In pre-Columbian mythology from Colombia, Bachue (the primordial woman) transformed into a big snake. She is also sometimes called the "Celestial Snake" (Serpiente Celestial).

posted January 14, 2008 09:54 AM              

Cecrops I, the legendary first King of Athens was said to have been half man, half snake. The ancient Titans and Gigantes were sometimes depicted as winged man-like beings with serpents instead of legs, for example on a fresco on a temple in Pergamum. In these images from Pergamum, some of which depict the gigantomachy, one sees the giant Klyteios with huge serpents in place of legs.

Boreas (Aquilon to the Romans) was the Greek god of the cold north wind, described by Pausanias as a winged man with serpents for legs.

The European dragon dates back to ancient depictions on various archaeological artifacts. An early instance in literature was the dragon that guarded the Golden Fleece in the Voyage of the Argonauts. In the Middle Ages, tales of dragons seem to have become even more common. The dragon in Europe, as a rule, was not conceived as having a humanoid form, and would not qualify as an instance of a reptilian humanoid unless explicitly described as humanoid.

India

In Indian scriptures and legends the Naga are reptilian beings said to live underground and interact with human beings on the surface. Some are alleged to turn human. In some versions, these beings were said to have once lived on a continent in the Indian Ocean that sank beneath the waves. Indian texts also refer to a reptilian race called the "Sarpa. The Syrictae of India were a tribe of men with snake-like nostrils in place of noses and bandy serpentine legs.

East Asia

The Chinese, Korean and Japanese speak throughout their history of Lóng (Yong in Korean, Ryu in Japanese) or dragons, conceived of in both physical and non-physical forms, but rarely depicted in humanoid form, though they may assume a non-reptilian human form.

The Japanese have tales of Kappa, a basically reptilian humanoid.

In China, Korea and Japan, underwater realms where the Dragon Kings and their descendants live are referred to, as well as the lineage of humans from a race of dragons. This lineage was often claimed by Asian Emperors, who were believed to be able to change from human to dragon form at will, much like the modern concept of shapeshifting reptilians. However, the dragon is seen as good rather than evil in Eastern tradition.

posted January 14, 2008 09:55 AM              

In the Book of Genesis, God punishes the serpent for deceiving Eve into eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil by decreeing, "Upon thy belly thou shalt go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of your life" (Genesis 3:14 KJV). Traditionally, many have felt this implied that the serpent (a snake or reptile) had legs before then. Thus It is therefore often portrayed in Western art as a humanoid (woman) with a snake's tail, and sometimes lizard-like feet, as in a detail from Bosch's Last Judgement.

In the Middle Ages down to modern times, the Devil was often conceived as a humanoid with reptilian characteristics, as were demons in general. But the New Testament reference of Revelation 12:9 which identifies the serpent of Genesis as Satan himself (the "dragon, devil, Satan, ancient serpent," etc.) gives insight from another angle. The serpent in the Garden of Eden was Satan himself, a beautiful supernatural being (either called a "serpent" symbolically, or because he manifested himself commonly in a dragon/serpent-like form). Hence the reference to "crawling" and "eating dust" is purely symbolic of his ultimate defeat and humiliation.

Africa

In Africa, some shamans claim to bear extensive esoteric knowledge of a race of reptilians called the Chitauri, whom they say control the Earth. They also claim to have accounts of a reptilian race who created them and used them to work their gold mines. Also, the ancient Egyptian god Sobek was portrayed as a man with the head of a crocodile.

Modern Claims

posted January 14, 2008 09:58 AM              

There are many conspiracy theories involving reptilian extraterrestrials, or terrestials of reptilian lineage. Many posit that the so-called Greys are in fact reptiles, and should be categorized as "Reptoids", others that Reptoids are an entirely different species working with or in opposition to the Greys. Some have also claimed that they are capable of shape-shifting (Icke, 2004).

One of the earliest, modern-day reports is that of Ashland, Nebraska police officer Herbert Schirmer. On December 3, 1967, Schirmer claims to have been taken aboard a UFO that appeared just outside of Ashland, where he encountered humanoid beings, 4 feet 6 inches to 5 feet tall, who wore close-fitting silvery gray uniforms, boots, and gloves. Their heads were thin, and longer than a human head. The skin on their faces was grey-white, the nose flat, the mouth merely a slit which did not move, even when they spoke. Their eyes were slightly slanted. While only slightly reptilian in their outward appearance, these beings bore a "winged serpent" emblem on the left side of their chest. Schirmer alleged that the beings are from another galaxy, and have bases on Earth.

John Rhodes was the first person to seriously investigate and publicly present claims of reptilian-humanoid sightings and/or contact. He established the Reptoids.com Research Center in 1997 to collect, review and present evidence of reptoid activity. He has also appeared on television and radio shows being interviewed about his discoveries and the science supporting the theory of Reptoids.

Rhodes contends that the majority of the reptilian humanoids are descendants of the dinosaurs and are biological byproducts of Earth evolution. He also states that human attention has been intentionally misdirected away from the underworld toward deep space, so the subject of underground Earth dwelling Reptoids and lost ancient civilizations can remain secret. Rhodes also adds that most accusations of politicians shape-shifting into reptilian humanoids are totally unfounded, and that such reports are simply projections of collective fear and blame for the world's conditions.

When questioned as to why Reptoids have become the proverbial "whipping boys" of modern ufology, he responds that it is because people tend to have a knee-jerk reaction to the image that western religious authorities have conditioned us to fear and distrust.

A subterranean Nazi-friendly super race is sometimes associated with accounts of reptilian humanoids, and also with the telekinetic super race depicted in Vril: The Power of the Coming Race.

Riley Martin, author of The Coming of Tan and frequent guest of Howard Stern, claims personal knowledge of Targzissians, a malevolent race of reptilians who manage to coexist with six other types of aliens on a mother ship near Saturn.

Paul Shockley, a self-professed psychic, also speaks of malevolent reptilian beings. However, he explains that he does not believe that all reptilians are malevolent, and that there are benevolent members of this species as well.

posted January 14, 2008 09:59 AM              

According to David Icke reptilian humanoids are the force behind a worldwide conspiracy directed at manipulation and control of humanity. He contends that most of our world's leaders, from George W. Bush to members of the British royal family, are in fact 7-foot tall, blood-drinking reptilians from the star system Alpha Draconia.

According to an interview with David Icke, Christine Fitzgerald, a confidante of Diana, Princess of Wales, claims that Diana told her that the Royal Family were reptilian aliens, and that they could shapeshift. David Icke and others have claimed that U.S. President George W. Bush and his family are part of this same bloodline (Icke, 2004).

Icke claims, based on his exploration of genealogical connections to European royalty, that many presidents of the United States have been and are reptilian humanoids. In his view, United States foreign policy after September 11 is the product of a reptilian conspiracy to enslave humanity, with George W. Bush as a servant of the lizards.

He also theorizes that the reptilians came here from the constellation Draco. One type of reptilian entity that people see during alleged encounters resembles reptoids like those that are addressed in the studies of John Rhodes and the Reptoids Research Center. Like most conspiracy theories, proving Icke's hypotheses is impossible, but he continues to sell books and give speaking engagements based on concepts ranging from the New Age to his political opinions.

Others who share the negative viewpoint of reptilian humanoids include Cathy O'Brien, a woman who claims to be a victim of CIA MKULTRA mind-control. O'Brien says in her book "The Trance-formation of America" (with Mark Phillips) that she witnessed George Bush Sr. physically shapeshift into a reptilian alien being. She rationalized this as potentially being a holographic illusion as part of her mind control programming. Arizona Wilder reported similar sightings of prominent politicians shape-shifting into reptilian beings during Illuminati blood rituals. While her claims sound frightening, no supporting evidence or additional eyewitnesses exist.

Patrick Bellringer and other supporters of NESARA also claim that George Bush is a reptilian. In this scenario, the announcement and implementation of NESARA (a law passed in secret) will ultimately end reptilian control over the planet Earth.

Reptilian humanoid aliens figured prominently in the 2003 murder trial of David Icke fan Linda Henning who was eventually convicted of murdering her boyfriend's ex-wife, Girly Chew Hossencofft. The trial was covered by CourtTV, providing national exposure to the conspiracy theories involving such creatures. Henning allegedly believed or was told by co-conspirator Diazien Hossencofft that Girly's killing would serve as good practice for the upcoming showdown with the reptilians. Familiar themes of a Bush family reptilian connection surfaced in evidence seized in connection with the trial. Both Henning and Hossencofft are serving life sentences.

posted January 14, 2008 09:59 AM              

Charlotte, you should watch this amazing dvd called "Secret Space Time 2" by Enigma TV- it is literally packed with so much detailed information (both ancient and modern) and some very interesting video footage of "flying serpents".

posted January 14, 2008 10:04 AM              

Zecharia Sitchin claims to have translated Sumerian tablets referring to an alien race which created a race of humans to work as slaves in their mines in Africa. This race is called the Anunnaki and Sitchin claims that the "Black-headed" people of Sumer were created by these beings by mingling the "life-essences" of "man and beast". According to Sitchin, the "Black-headed people" were considered slaves in the Sumerian caste hierarchy beneath their creators. The Sumerian Tablets refer to the creation of the Black-headed people in the geographical area called 'AB.ZU.', which is said to correspond to West Africa. See also Stargate.

The royalty was said to be a combination between "dragons" and humans, or to be direct descendants of the Sun God, Shamhash. Contrary to the claims of David Icke, the Draconian Sun-God aspect of the royalty does not correspond to the Anunnaki, but to a different set of gods. Anunnaki comprised only 23 gods in the Sumerian pantheon, including Enlil (lord of wind/air) and Enki (lord of earth). Other gods were not Anunnaki at all, but were personifications of the Sun, or what were described as 'Sir', or Dragons, in Babylonian. This word, 'Sir', also apparently meant 'great serpent', and is related to the Sanskrit word 'Sarpa', which was also used to describe great "Dragon-Gods" who ruled over, and created, the original Dravidian culture.

Sitchin also suggests that the Annunaki probably still exist in some form or another, with some degree of influence over humanity. These beings are speculated to be either amphibious, reptilian, or quasi-reptilian, from ancient description.

According to Arizona Wilder, who claims to be a former mind-controlled subject of MK-Ultra (much like Cathy O'Brien), Zecharia Sitchin is in league with the reptilians as a disinformation agent. She claims to have seen him with other shape-shifting reptilians at many high-level functions attended by the world's "elite". Her claim to have been a subject of mind control makes her "eyewitness" accounts suspect.

Laurence Gardner, historian and holder of many other titles (the validity of which have been debated), claims that a "Dragon Bloodline" (a "Holy Grail") was created in ancient Sumer when reptilian aliens called "Anunnaki" descended upon the region and created a royal bloodline through genetic engineering.

Stewart Swerdlow, and old friend from NY, claims to possess extensive knowledge of alien intervention in Earth-human society, and describes in detail the activities of a Reptilian race called the Draco, originating in the Draco star system. He also mentions a more benevolent reptilian race called the Anunnaki, the Sumerian Program, which created the Black race in Africa. He claims that this is supported by ancient Sumerian tablets, as well as the histories of the indigenous peoples of Africa, such as the Zulu, as well as physical evidence such as ancient mines which have been discovered by the Anglo American Corporation, dating to 60,000 years B.C.

posted January 14, 2008 10:14 AM              

Draco

ORION

Belt Stars of Orion, Three Main Pyramids, Giza Plateau
In the beginning ...

Sirius, Queen's Chamber (Feminine), Pleiades (Sister Stars)
Orion, Kings Chamber, Thuban
Thuban, Gold, Snake, Alpha Draconis, Reptilian DNA Experiment
Thuban was the pole star when the pyramids allegedly were built and the program began.
Seamen called it 'The Dragon's Tail'.
Seamen / Semen / Seeding

posted January 14, 2008 06:37 PM              

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Replace the Word Reptilian and Draco etcetera with Insectoid and Arachnid and be much closer to the real history. Man...the "bugs" and "spiders" sure brainwashed humanity well even into this century.
Just like The false Lord God and his Eden Zoo in the Bible.

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I am a bit confused on what you wrote as it's not very clear. Can you please elaborate so I can know where you stand?
the Draconians are the oldest reptilian race in our universe. Their forefathers came to our universe from another separate universe or reality system. When this occured, no one really knows. The Draconians themselves are not really clear on when they got here. The Draconians teach their masses that they were here in this universe first, before humans, and as such they are heirs to the universe and should be considered royalty. They find disgust in the fact that humans do not recognize this as a truth. They have conquered many star systems and have genetically altered many of the life forms they have encountered. The area of the galaxy most densely populated with Draconian sub-races is in the Orion system, which is a huge system, and systems in Rigel and Capella. The mind set or consciousness of the majority of races in these systems is Service-to-Self, and as such they are always invading, subverting and manipulating less advanced races, and using their technology for control and domination. This is a very old and ancient war, and the peace that does not exist is always being tested by these beings, who believe that fear rules, and love is weak. They believe that those they perceive to be less fortunate, in comparison to them, are meant to be slaves. This belief system is promoted at birth in the reptilian races, wherein the mother, after giving birth, will abandon the offspring to fend for themselves. If they survive they are cared for by a warrior class that uses these children for games of combat and amusement.”. So, you can see that the reptilians are forever stuck in survival mode. This means they have no boundaries in what they will do to other beings. Morenae continues, “it is engrained in them never to trust a human. They are taught the Draconian version of the history of the ‘Great Galactic War’, which teaches that humans are at fault for invading the universe, and that humans selfishly wanted the Draconian society to starve and struggle for the basic materials that would allow them to exist.”
http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/draconians.htm

posted January 14, 2008 07:22 PM              

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I am a bit confused on what you wrote as it's not very clear. Can you please elaborate so I can know where you stand?

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posted January 15, 2008 12:07 AM              

Cheers...

posted January 16, 2008 01:33 AM              

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Even with my views or theories I am open to a better explanation with empirical evidence.

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Unfortunately, I don't think there is empirical evidence... not everything can be proven. I think for the most part, we are going to have to go with based on what we each have experienced or being exposed to!
I am always open minded, though... and that's something I also respect about you, as well. Now, spiders is also very interesting... I remember not that long ago, I had a dream about them... it was spooky! I recall underground activity and their presence. On a different note, did you see the movie arachnobophia?

Cheers...

posted January 16, 2008 05:48 PM              

the series was on YOUTUBE and twice Youtube suspended both accounts, once on the 17th of DEC. and then the 13 of Jan. some say it was because of copyright violations, and that might have been the excuse they gave, but it wasn't the reason they took them down.

I am hearing many diferent opinions on the reptiles and such others, and thats the way it should be. I think that sometimes the masses are correct in certain things, we might just think because its out there huge, its not true and the underdog isn't being taken serious, I don't agree on this particular subject, but thats my opinion too.

I have seen these reptiles in OBE's and there was nothing nice about "HIM" or "THEM" i couldn't tell if he was the same one or a different one each time i saw him, but I know he knew I knew he was there, it was very scary and in my honest opinion, I believe he was there to stop me from seeing what I was suppose to see, he was a total distraction..

I will tell you a story about one of the Out Of Body experiences, also for those of you that don't know, I first found Linda at 9 years old, my mother a Jehovah Witnesses removed the books, SUN and LOVE signs from my reach which was at my grandmothers...I forgot about Linda until about 22-23 years of age, when i had a OUT OF BODY experience, told a girlfriend about it and she introduced me to star signs; which once seeing Lindas name on the cover I remembered her at age 9.

Now, I was having a OBE, I was floating in a park lot at night, there was a fire of intense nature and a riot was going on, there were people running all over the parking lot and I floated behind a car, I will tell you, being in OBE form is tricky...the things you see (which are usually future events) are very colorful and intense, even though you are OUT OF BODY, you will tend to forget and think you are really there in form, but you are not.

so here i am behind this car and I see this girl I knew running through the parking lot, a bunch of people grab her and take her into this building, so I followed inside. once inside the halls were white, everyone was in white, but no one could see me, they took her and put her in a straight jacket. Screaming she looked right at me for help, (as if she could see me)but when she notices I was doing nothing, she grinded her teeth at me and snapped toward me. they took her away and I became frightened as if I had done something to her, so I left the building where more people were running for their lives..from this fire. I floated through a fence and hid in some bushes that were by the fence. the fence opened and a ambulance came rushing out . as I watched it leave,there across the street on a building was a reptilian, he was kinda camouflaged into some ivy, but i could see him hanging onto a gutter, then he went through a window.

I had many encounters with these guys by now so i followed him, once inside I came to a hallway, a really long one. at the end i could see him sitting in a chair, a television light was reflecting off of his face, i walked to him and when i got to the door, to my right was another entrance to the kitchen.

there in the kitchen were two small dogs barking at me. ON each leash was a huge chain. the chains were over exxagerated for the small dogs couldn't even nudge them, but it still through me off. I looked at the reptilian who was watching television, then he looked at me and pointed to the television, as I looked at it, all i saw was COlor Static BUT there was something else there, i just couldn't figure out what it was.

I then noticed the dogs barking again, there was a door between them, a stove with four burners up high, the floor was filthy and I truly believe checkered, I was terrified of these little dogs and then i figured it out, it wasn't the dogs that frightened me, it was the CHains, the size was intimidating and overtook my perception of the whole picture.

once I got over it, i walked to the door, the dogs still barking frantically. I opened the door and ended up on a back porch which faced a dirt street. i walked out to the street adn the dirt was like fine ash powder.

once in the middle of the street I heard commotion, i thought maybe it was from the riots earlier, but the sky and scenery were different, more burnt ans ashy..black and whitish..shadowy.

when i looked down the street, i could see hundreds of thousands people of color rushing at me...they were angry at me for some reason and I knew they were there to just kill me and rip me to shreds. I don't know what came over me...I became a fit of rage and rushed at them, where once i was so frightened of everything happening..now something "CLICKED" in me and I didn't care about dying, but that I was taking as many of them with me as i could. And as we clashed into one another, i started to hit and claw and I could feel their skin inbetween my fingers and nails and still i kept going until i was one with them.

then I came back to my body. It was the most intense feeling, though not the scariest or most magnificient of my OBE's, but it was one of the ones with the reptilian.

now i don't know IF through OBE's I was releasing the Reptilian part of my brain and he was telling me this or if he was trying to keep me inside the Reptilian matrix so i couldn't have this power to leave my body...I just felt there was something not really great about him.

now I am adding some movies here for you guys to see, check them out and THINK..use your head, the answers are right in front of you, to see many of you asking questions to things you have known all your life, this one and the ones before...sometimes its just saddening, reach within for there is where the light is...and you better hurry up...cause its getting late..the time is coming.

there is a time for everything...Linda's books started in 1968 and ended in 89 with gooberz. I don't mention Relationship signs as a TRUE work because Arthur Klebanoff, Linda's agent said in his book on page 75;

"the brand of Linda Goodman signs books would even survive her death. Linda had written material for a computer generated "Matching" analysis. Crystal Bush, who owns most of the Linda Goodman rights now, my deputy Lisa Edwards, and I "figured out" how to convert this material into Linda Goodman's Relationship signs, which earned Nearly $1 million in a series of worldwide editions."

when you FIGURE OUT a way to CONVERT someones work into a computer program (and make a million dollars off of it)thats not their real work, or what they intended..since isnt Love and Sun signs that...?

anyhow he says on page 74:

"even her CHANNELED narrative poem was published successfully under the title Gooberz."

Channeled.

there's a reason, a warning...in my opinion why these books were published and the last one was a channeled poem...cmon...wake up!

Warnings

and gooberz...right in front of your face has three snakes on the front....the two O's and the Z. She puts it right on the front cover for you to see.

time is the issue here. and even though its called another kind of love story...that doesn't mean to get wrapped up in just the LOVE STORY...goober z gets pretty dark in parts....why is that?

what ever the case with the reptilians, they are a huge factor in all of it and we're going to find out soon...in my opinion.

okay here are some things to watch and then come to a conclusion on what you think.

first one is the creators of this series
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=23022827

just listen to what he says and see what he says about the DIFFERENT reptilians.

now this one is kinda all of us..especially here..some who are searching for a answer...but when given the CORRECT answer...the EXACT answer that another person gave them, they tend to ignore it and bring up another questions, either confusing themselves or others, but definately not getting to the point of things...deliberately moving away for the solution, keeping you confused and ignorant. it happens to all of us all the time.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lARZkpePAJk

now..these next two are really good, because they are products of MEL GIBSON.

remember Mel gibson and the whole Antisemitism thing..then he gets pulled over and he's calling this cop all kinds of vile things..asking him what his culture of people are and so forth.

these people get to a point where they have so much money, so much power, they get to a point where they don't care what anyone thinks of what they say..they just say it, or they say it for initiation...to who those behind curtains that they are to be trusted because they have shown the whole world they just don't care. its kinda like the whole skull and bones intiation where everyone knows your darkest secret and you theirs and blackmail is always in the sky if you try to get out.

well nowadays, you must show them you are one of them by doing something that the whole world knows about you..either the world is going to hate you or they are going to accept you..nowadays its a test of fate.

another example, Isiah Washington from Grey's anatomy, got called out for saying homophobia things to another actor. You don't say these things out loud unless you want the world to know, or you want thoss behind curtains to know you are with them...they put it right in front of your face today...they don't care anymore.

in these two clips, one is about the movie the Passion....by Mel Gibson....remember while watching or WATCH for the news report when the pope dies and they mention the movie THE PASSION....on the popes opinion of it and the priest says the pope says of the movie: "IT IS AS IT WAS." that the move IS AS IT WAS...so in his eyes..Mel got it right...if so then why is it different than what we were taught or what is told to this day...

check it out
http://hashemsfilms.wordpress.com/category/video-5/

now the second one here is Gibsons other movie Apocalypto. you will see in it that the aztecs are depicting the reptilians in their sacrifice of humans. and the humans they are killing are painted in blue...blue man, smurfs, genies, the catapillar in alice in wonderland who chants spells with AEIOU and sometimes Y....these are all rituals for the elite to see. He made a move..two of them, that have illuminati written all over it...two meanings to every movie you see...one for the sheep and one for them...
http://hashemsfilms.wordpress.com/category/video-6/

LOVE is what can win it in the end, but don't get caught up in love right now..butterflies and fairies, unicorns and berries..they are all warnings.