posted May 16, 2007 01:01 AM         

balance as a verb, not a noun.

All is in continuous motion,
and we shall forever faulter and reTurn.

Can you say more about the art of
balancing these opposites? My life is often an experience of extremes, and the middle way seems difficult to maintain for any length of time.

Life consists of extremes. Life is a tension between the opposites. To be exactly in the middle forever means to be dead. The middle is only a theoretical possibility; only once in a while are you in the middle, as a passing phase. It is like walking on a tightrope; you can never be exactly in the middle for any length of time. If you try, you will fall.

To be in the middle is not a static state, it is a dynamic phenomenon. Balance is not a noun, it is a verb; it is balancing. The tightrope-walker continuously moves from the left to the right, from the right to the left. When he feels now he has moved too much to one side and there is a danger of falling, he immediately balances himself by moving to the opposite side. In passing from the left to the right, yes, there is a moment when the tightrope-walker is in the middle. And again, when he has moved too much to the right and there is a fear of alling, he is losing balance, he starts moving to the left and again passes through the middle for a moment.

This is what I mean when I say balance is not a noun but a verb-- it is balancing, it is a dynamic process. You cannot just be in the middle. You can go on moving rom left to right and right to left; this is the only way to remain in the middle.

Don't avoid the extremes, and don't choose any one extreme. Remain available to both the polarities -- that is the art, the secret of balancing. Yes, sometimes be utterly happy, and sometimes be utterly sad -- both have their own beauties.

The mind is a chooser; that's why the problem arises. Remain choiceless. Whatever happens, and wherever you are-- right or left, in the middle or not in the middle -- enjoy the moment in its totality. While happy, dance, sing, play music -- be happy! And when sadness comes -- which is bound to come, which has to come, which is inevitable, you cannot avoid it...If you try to avoid it you will have to destroy the very possibility of happiness. The day cannot exist without the night, and the summer cannot exist without the winter. Life cannot be without death. Let this polarity sink deep in your being-- there is no way to avoid it. The only way is to become more and more dead; only a dead person can exist in a static middle. The alive person will be constantly moving -- from anger to compassion, from compassion to anger -- and accepting both, not identified with either but remainding aloof and yet involved, distant yet committed. The alive person enjoys and yet remains like a lotus flower -- in the water, yet the water cannot touch it.

Your very effort to be in the middle, and to be in the middle forever and always, is creating unnecessary anxiety for you. In fact, a desire to be in the middle forever is another extreme--the worst kind of extreme, because it is the impossible kind. It cannot be fulfilled. Just think of an old-fashioned clock: If you hold the pendulum exactly in the middle, the clock will stop. The clock works only because the pendulum goes on moving from the left to the right, from the right to the left. Yes, each time it passes through the middle, and there is a moment of the middle-ness, but only a moment.

And it is beautiful! When you pass from happiness to sadness, from sadness to happiness, there is a moment of utter silence, exactly in the middle --enjoy that too.

Life has to be lived in all it dimensions, only then is life rich. The leftist if poor, the rightest is poor, and the middlist is dead! When you are alive you are neither rightist nor leftist nor middlist-- you are a constant movement, a flow.

Why do we want to be in the middle in the first place? We are afraid of the dark side of life; we don't want to be sad, we don't want to be in a state of agony. But that is possible only if you are also ready to drop the possibility of being in ecstasy. There are a few who have chosen it--that is the way of the monk. For centuries that has been the way of the monk, ready to sacrifice all possibilities of ecstasy just to avoid agony. He is ready to destroy all the roses just to avoid the thorns. But then his life is just flat...a long, long boredom, stale, stagnant. He does not really live. He is afraid to live.

Life contains both; it brings great pain, and it also brings great pleasure. Pain and pleasure are two sides of the same coin. If you exclude one, you have to exclude the other, too. This has been one of the most fundemental misunderstandings down the ages, that you can get rid of pain and save pleasure, that you can avoid hell and have heaven, that you can avoid the negative and can have only the positive. This is a great fallacy. It is not possible in the very nature of things. The positive and negative are together, in evitably together, inficisibly together. They are two aspects of the same energy. We have to accept both.

I have heard a beautiful story--I don't know how far it is correct, I cannot vouch for it.

In paradise one afternoon, in its most famous cafe', Lao Tzu, Confucius, and Buddha are sitting and chatting. The waiter comes with a tray that hold three glasses of the juice called "Life," and offers them. Buddha immediately closes his eyes and refuses; he says, "Life is misery."

Confucius closes his eyes halfway--he is a middlist, he used to preach the golden mean-- and asks the waiter to give him the glass. He would like to have a sip--but just a sip, because without tasting how can one say whether life is misery or not? Confucius had a scientific mind; he was not much of a mystic, he had a very pragmatic, earthbound mind. He was the first behaviorist the world has known, very logical. And it seems perfectly right-- he says, "First I will have a sip, and then I will say what I think." He takes a sip and he says, "Buddha is right -- life is misery."

Lao Tzu takes all the three glasses and he says, "Unless one drinks totally, how can one say anything?" He drinks all the three glasses and starts dancing!

Buddha and Confucius ask him, "Are you not going to say anything?" And Lao Tzu says, "This is what I am saying -- my dance and my song are speaking for me." Unless you taste totally, you cannot say. And when you taste totally, you still cannot say because what you know is such that no words are adequate.

Buddha is on one extreme, Confucius is in the middle. Lao Tzu has drunk all the three glasses--the one that was brought for Buddhas, the one that was brought for Confucius, and the one that was brought for him. He has drunk them all; he has lived life in its three-dimensionality.

My own approach is that of Lao Tzu. Live life in all possible ways; don't choose one thing against the other, and don't try to be in the middle. Don't try to balance yourself--balance is not something that can be cultivated. Balance is something that comes out of experiencing all the dimensions of life. Balance is something that happens; it sis not something that can be brought about through your efforts. If you bring it through your efforts it will be false, forced. And you will remain tense, you will not be relaxed, because how can a person who is trying to remain balanced in the middle be relaxed? You will always be afraid that if you relax you may start moving to the left or to the right. You are bound to remain uptight, and to be uptight is to miss the whole opportunity, the whole gift of life.

Don't be uptight. Don't live life according to principles. Life life in its totality, frink life in its totality! Yes, sometimes it tastes bitter--so what? That taste of bitterness will make you capable of tasting its sweetness. You will be able to appreciate the sweetness only if you have tasted its bitterness. One who knows not how to cry will not know how to laugh, either. One who cannot enjoy a deep laughter, a belly laugh, that person's tears will be crocodile tears. They cannot be true, they cannot be authentic.

I don't teach the middle way, I teach the total way. Then a balance comes of its own accord, and then that balance has tremendous beauty and grace. You have not forced it, it has simply come. By moving gracefully to the left, to the right, in the middle, slowly a balance comes to you because you remain so unidentified. When sadness comes, you know it will pass, and when happiness comes you know that will pass, too. Nothing remains; everything passes by. The only thing that always abides is your witnessing. That witnessing brings balance. That witnessing is balance.

posted May 17, 2007 01:42 AM         

Just as every woman has different cooking style, each Master has its own way of teaching. Buddha, Jesus etc..No one is greater or lesser than the other. Its our ego that calculates all the time.

We are all equal before God. The priests have edited the holy books of God because they are afraid to loose power. Its a tactic they employed to trap the masses.

But it does not mean stop going to temple.
Go if you feel like it. Go with pure intention, not out of fear of retribution.

God has guided each Master on what his message should be when they leave the earth.
For Jesus the message was Body = Sin, sacrifice your body and you sacrifise sin.

Buddha would have said...."To have a body, is to desire. Cease desire to experience eternal bliss.".

The discussion from Osho is very enlightening. He implies we are constant movement of energy. Chaos follows orders and orders follow chaos. Before big bang we were hot cosmic soup and when it cooled down, life happened. Don't we all live in a matrix. Its to experince and enjoy the creation. But for people who have known their place in Matrix have transcended it to some other reality.

posted May 17, 2007 01:50 AM         

I like the ideas because they apply scientific knowledge of physical matter to spirituality. Spirituality still IS, even if it is something more abstract, and still must follow the rules.

There is no such thing as a straight line, it is only a concept, there is no such thing as a perfect circle, it is only a concept.

I try to explain this to people as far as cusps go, but they usually don't listen. Any energy must radiate progressively, it does not stop "dead" at some point. It dissipates across time or space. How would the influence of leo just stop exactly on one date, especially considering the date that signs follow changes every year.

posted May 17, 2007 02:15 AM         

People sometimes only focus on the literal meaning. But no one knows that theres another aspect of knowledge than just reading things literally

The whole world would be in peace, if they understood that. Enough mockery of God's words has been done till this day and continues to be done today.

posted May 18, 2007 12:50 PM         

BR, my Zero degree Sagittarian Sun so thanks you!
I also get frustrated at times, trying to explain the significance of close-orbed Cusp Energy, and you described it as I always hoped to so well.
Maybe it takes a Cusper (hehe, new word) like you, Mannu and I to understand how strongly the energy infiltrated into ones essence (for being the Sun) is too significant an influence to be dismissed as just being from other placements.

The early years of my initiation into astrology, I was a novice figuring my chart and for years I thought I had an 8th house Sun instead of 7th (I'm on the cusp there too) and this made more sense to me for feeling so Scorpionic in so many ways. It was still years yet before I even realized I my Sun was only at Zero degrees. (I was about 11 years old when first did my chart on my old "Zodiac" computer).

Will return to your thoughts too soon, Mannu. Thank you.

I have to leave for work. Ugh.

posted June 11, 2007 02:18 AM         

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The same goes for life, everything is a constant flow and ebb, nothing is ever in once place ever. I think people underestimate the power of time and the variability in our moods and consciousness.

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yes, it's all windows in time.
Like riding passenger in a car and watching the scenery whizz by. There's something that may catch your eye and that flashing second you align with it, it becomes a snapshot in your memory forever; it's captured. There's something so hauntingly,melancholic and amazing about that.
Regardless, the scenery keeps rolling by.

Isn't that how it is for someone suicidal? They cannot see the window; they're trapped in a moment. If only they could have let it pass into the next, as it would have.

Mannu~

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Don't we all live in a matrix. Its to experince and enjoy the creation. But for people who have known their place in Matrix have transcended it to some other reality.

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How would you describe matrix, Mannu?
I'm just interested in your thoughts (I haven't seen the movies).

I agree...everyone has their own 'cooking skills' and there is a bit of beauty and truth to be found in all the different ways.

For all the surface differences, there is unity to be found in common foundations of Purity, Charity, Love, Suffering & Grace.

From Aldous Huxely's novel of compilations of this unity The Perennial Philosophy~

Philosophia Perennis--
the phrase was coined by Leibniz; but the thing--the metaphysic that recognizes a divine Reality substantial to the world of things and lives and minds; the psychology that finds in the soul something similar to, or even identical with, divine Reality; the ethic that places man's final end in the knowledge of the immanent and transcendent Ground of all being--the thing is immemorial and universal.
Rudiments of the Perennial Philosophy may be found among the traditionary lore of primitive peoples in every region of the world, and in its fully developed forms it has a place in every one of the higher religions.
A version of this Highest Common Factor in all preceding and subsequent theologies was first committed to writing more than twenty-five centuries ago, and since that time the inexhaustible theme has been treated again and again, from the standpoint of every religious tradition and in all the principal languages of Asia and Europe.

posted June 11, 2007 11:42 AM         

I am rushed now and didn't have time to finish it all but read half of it and what I read I so agree with and like!!

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But it does not mean stop going to temple.
Go if you feel like it. Go with pure intention, not out of fear of retribution.

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Thank you for that wisdom, Mannu!!! You expressed so well what I have been trying to say to people for years. What you said here is the ONLY reason that people should go to temple.

You are so on the mark there because it is surprising how many people go to temple just out of a feeling of obligation and fear of retribution if they fail to perform that obligation.

I leave the church for long periods of time when I find my inspiration and true meaning for being there is being replaced by habit. We do tend to fall into routines so easily. We are by nature creatures of habit. When that happens I go elsewhere to attempt to rekindle the inspiration and spirituality that brings me closer to God.

posted June 11, 2007 02:23 PM         

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I try to explain this to people as far as cusps go, but they usually don't listen. Any energy must radiate progressively, it does not stop "dead" at some point. It dissipates across time or space. How would the influence of leo just stop exactly on one date, especially considering the date that signs follow changes every year.

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Another "cusper" here, and I've always felt this pull between the Saggie and Cappy. I didn't understand it.

This goes along with all the 2012 hysteria as well. We're already into the sea change. We'll continue to have it once that "all encompasing" date rolls bye. It's just the tide going out. Let's flow with it shall we? See how we come out on the other side.

Love and Hugs,
GG

posted June 11, 2007 07:14 PM         

Hi Lialei,

Thanks for bringing this back up. In this eternal dance between chaos and order , the order returns.

Just as you mentioned, some suicidal people are trapped in that time dimension, I think same is true for ghosts and other paranormal entities. They are trapped between the two worlds.

In my opinion, the four dimension of space and time could be our matrix. The earth reality/physical reality that we all experience. At subtler levels or quantum levels, another reality manifests which makes our earth reality obscurred. When a person who is connected to the matrix looks at the sky they only see a blue sky. But when someone with a transcendal lens (my may of calling realized souls) looks at the sky they get a different glimpse each time.

I will have to revisit your comments on Leibniz later. Wasn't he also a mathematician. Its hard for me to remember German names.

Hi Mirandee,
My posts are glad to get your scrutiny. I think the bulls have the best memory.
Thats a great tool to have when we analyse.

Cheers

posted June 12, 2007 12:34 AM         

Some of the lines were one of the best I have heard. I will quote some of them here from the web:

Will put some commentary here before one can proceed to read further.

Great line: Every program serves its purpose before it returns to the Source.

Neo's negative i.e. Smith could not return to the source unless Neo is destroyed.

The end of the movie (sequel 3) is quite controversial. In that Neo lets Smith destroy him. The purpose of Smith was achieved so he returns to the source, but some how Neo frees all the machines from Smiths influence and balance returns between humans and machines. I didn't quite get it how did he manage to do that.

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-The Oracle who is she?
“If I am the father of the Matrix, she would undoubtedly be its mother” – The Architect

The Oracle is a program initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche, and maybe it is this combined with the knowledge of the functions in the Matrix that makes her able to predict the future. The Oracle has taken the form of an old black woman, who likes to bake cookies and eat candy. Also The Oracle came up with the idea to give people in the Matrix the power of choice, which prevented the Matrix from failing and this is now implemented in the latest version(s) of the Matrix.

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- What does The Oracle want? Why is she helping Neo and Morpheus?
“I want the same thing as you want Neo, and I’m ready to go as far as you are to get it” – The Oracle

The Oracle wants peace between humans and the machines and she works her mysterious ways to achieve this. This is why she guides Neo, Morpheus and the others. She does not always tell the truth, but she tells them exactly what they need to hear, in order to make them do what needs to be done, in her master plan.

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- What can and what can’t The Oracle predict about the future?
“No one can see beyond a choice they don’t understand” - The Oracle

The Oracle knows what is going to happen up until a choice that is not yet understood. This means that every choice is in a way pre decided, but that she cannot tell us what lies beyond these choices, if we do not understand why we will make them in yet. She does not know weather Neo is the one in the first part of the first movie, because Neo does not know which great powers he has. Because Neo doesn't know about his powers yet, he cant understand the choices he is going to make later and therefore the Oracle cannot tell if he is or is not the one.

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- In Matrix one The Oracle told Neo that he was not “The one” and that either he or Morpheus would die, none of this was right, why was she wrong?
“Try not to think of it in terms of right and wrong. She is a guide Neo, she can help you to find the path.” - Morpheus

My theory is that The Oracle did not want to tell Neo weather he was the one or not, if he did not believe in it himself. He had to discover it himself, to truly become the one. Here is the dialogue:

The Oracle looks at Neo’s hands
The Oracle: Now I’m supposed to say, hmm that’s interesting, but then you say:
Neo : But what?
The Oracle: But you already know what I’m going to tell you.
Neo : I’m not the one.

Now Neo said it himself, he does not believe in himself yet, so The Oracle knows that he is not ready. The reason The Oracle then tells Neo that either Morpheus or he is going to die is to get Neo to go back into the Matrix and save Morpheus later. She wants to test him and see if he is infact the one, and she wanted Neo to discover his powers himself. She could just have told Neo that Sipher was going to betray them, but she wanted Neo to go and rescue Morpheus. By doing this she made Neo believe that he had nothing to loose and that makes him really powerful inside the Matrix.

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She wasn't wrong. Neo did die at the end of the first movie if you recall. The oracle also said in the first movie:

Oracle: "You've got the gift, but it looks like your waiting for something"
Neo: "What?"
Oracle: " Your next life perhaps, who knows? Thats the way these things go"

Neo dies, then comes back as the one, in his "Next Life". Before he died, he wasnt the one. He just "Had the Gift".

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- Why did The Oracle tell Morpheus that he would find the one and that the one would end the war? There was no way she could have known this when she said this.
“So you are here to save the world? What do you say to something like that?” - Sipher

The Matrix is flawed in a way so that the one would inevitably appear at some point. My theory is that The Oracle told Morpheus that he would find the one and that the one would end the war, in order to make Morpheus look for him and support him in every way if or when he found him.

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- Why did The Oracle tell Trinity that she would fall in love with the one? Again she couldn’t have known this at the time.
“Cookies need love like everything does” – The Oracle

I think she told Trinity this to make her fall in love with the one. It seems as if the one (Neo) gets a lot of his powers from his love to Trinity. I think The Oracle knew that love has an essential connection to the powers you have both inside and outside the Matrix. Also and more important, love is the thing that makes Neo chose the "wrong door" later. This is a part of The Oracles master plan

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- Why does Smith call The Oracle mom?
"Everything that has a beginning, has an end, I see the end coming, I see darkness spreading, I see death. And you are all that stands in his way. - The Oracle

The Oracle and The Architect indirectly created Smith together. The architect, build the equation, called the matrix, and he tries all he can to balance it. The oracle tries to unbalance it by "creating" the one. As a counter measure "the equation" makes Smith equally or just about as powerful. Quotes that support this theory:

The Oracle: Thats his(The Architect) purpose, to balance the equation.
Neo : Whats your purpose?
The Oracle: To unbalance it.

"He (Smith) is you, he is your opposite, the result of the equation trying to balance itself out." - The Oracle

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- The Oracle's master plan? What are you talking about?
“You are here because you were send here. You were told to come here and then you obeyed” - The Merovingian

Neo, Morpheus, Trinity, Smith and The Architect are all indirectly controlled by The Oracle. The Oracle using them as tools in her great scheme to end the war. She manipulated The Architect into giving people in the matrix a choice and in this way she insured that one of the inevitably reappearing "ones" would choose the "wrong door", which would lead to one of two ends. This is bound to happen at one point or another. When Neo asks The Oracle if the war is going to end she answers "one way or another". This leads me back to the two possible outcomes. Either Zion is destroyed and the matrix crashes (Smith) and every human being is killed. This is the only option The Architect knows of. As the Oracle put it "Please... You and I might not be able to see beyond our own choices, but that man cant see past any choise. [...] He doesn't understand them, he cant, to him they are variables in an eqation."

The other way that this war can end is of cause the one that happens and it is The Oracle that ultimately decides which one that had to happen.

Neo : Where is this going? Where does it end?
The Oracle: I don't know.
Neo : You don't know or you wont tell me?
The Oracle: I told you before, no one can see beyond a choice they don't - understand and i mean no one.
Neo : What choice?
The Oracle: It doesn't matter, its my choice. I have mine to make, same as you
- have yours.

The Oracle makes her choice when she lets Smith take her over. This enables Neo to kill Smith (as well as himself) in the end. Smith says the following in the end "everything that has a beginning has an end Neo". This is what the Oracle told Neo before. Then Smith says "What? What did i just say?". Somehow The Oracle is still inside Smith in a way and this is her way of telling Neo that he should give up, there by killing them both and create peace. This is what the source wants for peace and this also saves everybody inside the matrix. Another sign that this is infact The Oracles choice is the questions Smith asks The Oracle earlier, when he comes to "take her over". These are questions about why she didn't flee, if she knew he was coming.

One thing that i would like to point out, is that the oracle was not always sure that this would happen, but it was a chance she was taking. In the end of Matrix 3 The Architect calls her plan "a very dangerous game". And shortly after Seraph asks her weather or not she knew that this would happen, to which she answers that she didn't, but that she believed. She tells Neo the same thing in Matrix 2 "For what it's worth, you've made a believer out of me"

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Someone reading this might think that I'm mixing up to two different was of viewing faith in this theory. One way being that we can choose what we want to do and one being that we cant, but we have to follow a certain path instead. My theory is that in the movie, you have choice, but that these choices has been made before you have to decide. It can be debated whether or not this can be considered real choice, but it is not important, because this is the environment in this movie (in my theory). Also as long as you are not sure about your future, it doesn't really matter whether or not is it predecided.

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posted June 12, 2007 12:55 AM         

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Kind of like Newtonian physics and Quantum Mechanics huh? The future can appear pre-determined if you hold onto Newtonian Physics, but through 'critical reason' we arrive at quantum physics where the 'observer' collapses the waveform, which means that subjective consciousness is pretty much a mystery. Enter the Heisenberg 'uncertainty principle.' Causation requires an observation and a component, yet entaglement in quantum physics means that the 'space' even you and I appear to reside in some place on the Earth communicating via the Internet is nothing more than a Matrixesque 'construct' and that all things are 'connected' if one even subscribes to a 'beginning' of what we consider the 'known Universe.' Big Bang, or even the sexy Big 'WOW.' This is perhaps why the Rama Kandra* is wise to understand the 'connection' as the key 'thing-in-itself' to keep in 'mind' that there is nothing essentially 'disconnected' in the entire Universe in any 'superposition' of some Universe even it is just a sub-sconscious construct superviening over some other sub-conscious construct of one Universe to another 'u'niverse if you will. A 'macrocosm' and a 'microcosm' in fact.

"Thus man becomes the Architect of his own demise." - The Animatrix, Second Renissance

You and I and all ideas are connected and the very lack of recognizing that connection is the crux of the story until we can see that union of that pratically immortal and 'timeless' connection revived or revealed in the conclusion through the unification of the metaphorical dark and light in some sort of pantheistic metaphor. Consiousness resides in all observable aspects of the Universe.

Human pride, human prejudice, and the limitation in being able to understand the 'superposition' of the Universe is just the same as perhaps a dog's ability to perceive the Universe in shades of grey. The 'materialism' of human imagination is the very passive act that all 'life' or 'consciousness' grapples with in terms of truth, epistemology, causation, choice, freewill. We have limited yet limitless potential within our reach. Is it belief, research, or the bottom of our ignorance that provides use with access to the potentials that move our blobs of 'selfish' DNA around our space? Something to think about I suppose and factor further into you FAQ ;-)

At the sub-atomic level of all things the paradoxes go all the way back to Socrates - "I know that I don't know." This recognition of the limit of human knowledge is the beginning to a path of enlightenment which is why Socrates put the words 'Temet Nosce' over the entrance to temple of the Oracle at Delphi. It is why the Wachowskis put that in place in the story of stories. 'Superposition' is the very thing that the consciousness of 'life' will continue to try and work out through all types of symbiosis, change, movement, entropy. However, what does happen to entropy at the quantum level. Why is there the notion of 'time symmetry' reversal at the uniform level of the Planck scale.

It's really good to see you thinking about the process, and getting out of the box. It's like the thought experiment 'flatland.' We are potentially 2D creatures that can in some way 'understand' the 3D world. In this sense your thoughts are a way in which you are shaping your perceptions and sharing them with the world. The more you do this the more you shape your world and effect those in the world around you. It is a wonderful path of enlightentment. I like Kant's ideas of 'transcendental idealism' and how the ideas penetrate the ideas of the Matrix fiction myself.

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posted June 12, 2007 01:38 AM         

-How did Neo kill the sentinels outside the matrix?

Neo; "Tell me how I separated my mind from my body without jacking in? Tell me how I stopped four sentinels by thinking it."
Oracle; "The power of the One extends beyond this world. It reaches from here all the way back to where it came from."
Neo; "Where?"
Oracle: "The Source. That's what you felt when you touched those sentinels"

posted June 12, 2007 01:47 AM         

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TRINITY: Do you know what happened to Neo?
ORACLE: Yes. He's trapped in a place between this world and the machine world. The link is controlled by a program called the Trainman. He uses it to smuggle programs in and out of the Matrix. If he finds out where Neo is before you get to him, then I'm afraid our choices are going to become difficult.

TRINITY: Why?

ORACLE: Because of who the Trainman works for.

MORPHEUS: The Merovingian.

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NEO: You're programs.
RAMA-KANDRA: Oh, yes. I'm the power plant systems manager for recycling operations. My wife is an interactive software programmer, she is highly creative.

KAMALA: What are you doing here? You do not belong here.

RAMA-KANDRA: Kamala! Goodness, I apologize. My wife can be very direct.

NEO: It's okay. I don't have an answer. I don't even know where 'here' is.

RAMA-KANDRA: This place is nowhere. It is between your world and our world.

NEO: Who's the Trainman?

RAMA-KANDRA: He works for the Frenchman.

NEO: Why'd I know you were going to say that?

RAMA-KANDRA: The Frenchman does not forget and he does not forgive.

NEO: You know him?

RAMA-KANDRA: I know only what I need to know. I know that if you want to take something from our world into your world that does not belong there, you must go to the Frenchman.

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NEO: Is that what you're doing here?
KAMALA: Rama, please!

RAMA-KANDRA: I do not want to be cruel, Kamala. He may never see another face for the rest of his life.

NEO: I'm sorry. You don't have to answer that question.

RAMA-KANDRA: No. I don't mind. The answer is simple. I love my daughter very much. I find her to be the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. But where we are from, that is not enough. Every program that is created must have a purpose; if it does not, it is deleted. I went to the Frenchman to save my daughter. You do not understand.

NEO: I just have never...

RAMA-KANDRA: ...heard a program speak of love?

NEO: It's a... human emotion.

RAMA-KANDRA: No, it is a word. What matters is the connection the word implies. I see that you are in love. Can you tell me what you would give to hold on to that connection?

NEO: Anything.

RAMA-KANDRA: Then perhaps the reason you're here is not so different from the reason I'm here.

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NEO: You know the Oracle?
RAMA-KANDRA: Everyone knows the Oracle. I consulted with her before I met with the Frenchman. She promised she would look after Sati after we said goodbye.

NEO: Goodbye? You're not staying with her?

RAMA-KANDRA: It is not possible. Our arrangement with the Frenchman was for our daughter only. My wife and I must return to our world.

NEO: Why?

RAMA-KANDRA: That is our karma.

NEO: You believe in karma?

RAMA-KANDRA: Karma's a word. Like 'love.' A way of saying 'what I am here to do.' I do not resent my karma - I'm grateful for it. Grateful for my wonderful wife, for my beautiful daughter. They are gifts. And so I do what I must do to honour them.

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NEO: One way or another I'm getting on this train
TRAINMAN: Oh, no, no, no. You're gonna stay right here until the

MEROVINGIAN: says different. If I know him, you're gonna be here for a long, long time.

NEO: I don't want to hurt you.

TRAINMAN: You don't get it. I built this place. Down here I make the rules. Down here I make the threats. Down here, I'm God.

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SERAPH: There are no weapons allowed in the club. At the bottom of this elevator, there is a coat check girl. And if we're lucky, one man for checking guns.
TRINITY: And if we're unlucky?

SERAPH: There will be many men.

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MEROVINGIAN: The prodigal child returns. L'ange sans ailes [The angel without wings]. Are you here for the bounty, Seraph? Tell me, how many bullets are there in those guns? I don't know, but I don't think you have enough.

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MORPHEUS: We want to make a deal.
MEROVINGIAN: Always straight to business, huh, Morpheus? Okay. I have something you want. To make a deal, you must have something I want, yes? And it so happens there is something I want. Something I've wanted ever since I first came here. It is said they cannot be taken, they can only be given.

MORPHEUS: What?

MEROVINGIAN: The eyes of the Oracle.

MEROVINGIAN: I have told you before, there's no escaping the nature of the universe. It is that nature that has again brought you to me. Where some see coincidence, I see consequence. Where others see chance, I see cost. Bring me the eyes of the Oracle, and I will give you back your saviour. That seems a particularly fair and reasonable deal to me. Yes, no?

TRINITY: I don't have time for this **** .

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TRINITY: You want to make a deal, how about this? You give me Neo, or we all die right here, right now.
MEROVINGIAN: Interesting deal. You are really ready to die for this man?

TRINITY: Believe it.

PERSEPHONE: She'll do it. If she has to, she'll kill every one of us. She's in love.

MEROVINGIAN: It is remarkable how similar the pattern of love is to the pattern of insanity.

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ORACLE: That's it. That's the secret. You've got to use your hands.
SATI: Why?

ORACLE: Cookies need love like everything does.

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NEO: You helped me to get here, but my question is why? Where does this go? Where does it end?
ORACLE: I don't know.

NEO: You don't know or you won't tell me?

ORACLE: I told you before. No one can see beyond a choice they don't understand, and I mean no one.

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NEO: Tell me how I separated my mind from my body without jacking in. Tell me how I stopped four sentinels by thinking it. Tell me just what the hell is happening to me.
ORACLE: The power of the One extends beyond this world. It reaches from here all the way back to where it came from.

NEO: Where?

ORACLE: The Source. That's what you felt when you touched those Sentinels. But you weren't ready for it. You should be dead, but apparently you weren't ready for that, either.

NEO: The Architect told me that if I didn't return to the Source, Zion would be destroyed by midnight tonight.

ORACLE: Please... You and I may not be able to see beyond our own choices, but that man can't see past any choices.

NEO: Why not?

ORACLE: He doesn't understand them - he can't. To him they are variables in an equation. One at a time each variable must be solved and countered. That's his purpose: to balance an equation.

NEO: What's your purpose?

ORACLE: To unbalance it.

NEO: Why? What do you want?

ORACLE: I want the same thing you want, Neo. And I am willing to go as far as you are to get it.

NEO: The end of the war. Is it going to end?

ORACLE: One way, or another.

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ORACLE: Everything that has a beginning has an end. I see the end coming. I see the darkness spreading. I see death. And you are all that stands in his way.
NEO: Smith.

ORACLE: Very soon he's going to have the power to destroy this world, but I believe he won't stop there; he can't. He won't stop until there's nothing left at all.

NEO: What is he?

ORACLE: He is you. Your opposite, your negative, the result of the equation trying to balance itself out.

NEO: What if I can't stop him?

ORACLE: One way or another, Neo, this war is going to end. Tonight, the future of both worlds will be in your hands... or in his.

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SMITH: Well, well, it's been a long time. I remember chasing you was like chasing a ghost.
SERAPH: I have beaten you before.

SMITH: That's true, but as you can see, things are a little different now. And you must be the last exile.

SATI: The Oracle told me about you.

SMITH: Really? And what did she say about me?

SATI: That you're a bad man.

SMITH: Oh, I'm not so bad once you get to know me.

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SMITH: The great and powerful Oracle. We meet at last. I suppose you've been expecting me, right? The all-knowing Oracle is never surprised. How can she be, she knows everything. But If that's true, then why is she here? If she knew I was coming, why didn't she leave? *sweeps plate of cookies off table* Maybe you knew I was going to do that, maybe you didn't. If you did, that means you baked those cookies and set that plate right there deliberately, purposefully. Which means you're sitting there also deliberately, purposefully.
ORACLE: What did you do with Sati?

SMITH/SATI: Cookies need love like everything does.

ORACLE: You are a ******* .

SMITH: You would know, Mom.

ORACLE: Do what you're here to do.

SMITH: Yes, ma'am.

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LOCK: In less than 12 hours, the machines will breach the dock walls. Every simulation we've run, we've seen that once the machines are inside the city the odds of our survival decrease dramatically. Thus our primary objective must be to destroy or disable the diggers inside the dock. If we can do that, perhaps we can prevent them from ever reaching the city. If not, the only place we'll be able to mount an effective defense will be at the entrance of the Temple. It is small enough that it will force them into a bottleneck, allowing us to concentrate the remainder of our defense.
COUNCILLOR DILLARD: We understand that you've requested additional volunteers.

LOCK: That is correct.

COUNCILLOR WEST: Precisely what size of force are you planning to commit to the primary dock objective?

LOCK: Right now, the entire APU core and half the infantry.

COUNCILLOR WEST: Half the infantry?

LOCK: If it were up to me, Councillor, I'd take every man, woman, and child, put a gun in their hands and march them straight into that dock.

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COUNCILLOR HAMANN: Commander, just one more question. Has there been word from the Nebuchadnezzar?
LOCK: None, and at this point there's no reason to expect that there ever will be.

COUNCILLOR HAMANN: Perhaps. But we can hope.

LOCK: I'm afraid hope is an indulgence I don't have time for.

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CAS: Zee, what are you doing?
Zee: Making shells.

CAS: They're evacuating our level. We have to go.

Zee: I'm not going with you.

CAS: What?

Zee: They've called for volunteers to hold the dock.

CAS: I know how you feel, Zee, but you can't do that.

Zee: I have to.

CAS: Why?

Zee: Because I love him. I love him the same as he loves me. And if I were out there and he were here, I know what he'd do.

CAS: But you're gonna get yourself killed. It's crazy, Zee.

Zee: Maybe it is. But ask yourself, if it were Dozer, and you knew the only chance you had to see him again was to hold the dock, what would you do?

CAS: Make shells.

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MIFUNE: How old are you, kid?
KID: Eighteen.

MIFUNE: Shoulda said sixteen, I mighta believed that!

KID: OK, I'm sixteen.

MIFUNE: Minimal age for the corps is eighteen, sixteen's too young!

KID: The machines won't care how old I am. They'll kill me just the same.

MIFUNE: Ain't that the ********* truth.

KID: Give me a chance, sir. I won't let you down.

MIFUNE: You do... you'll find me and the machines have something in common.

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NEO: Trinity... There's something I have to say. Something you need to understand. I know I'm supposed to go. But beyond that - I don't know...
TRINITY: I know. You don't think you're coming back. I knew it the moment you said you had to leave. I could see it in your face. Just like you knew the moment you looked at me that I was coming with you.

NEO: I'm scared, Trin.

TRINITY: So am I. Took me ten minutes to buckle up one boot. But I'll tell you something. Six hours ago I told the

MEROVINGIAN: that I was ready to give anything and everything for you. Do you know what's changed in the past 6 hours?

NEO: No.

TRINITY: Nothing.

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MORPHEUS: I can only hope you know what you're doing.
NEO: Me, too. It was an honour, sir.

MORPHEUS: No, the honour's still mine.

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NEO: Who are you?
BANE: Still don't recognize me? I admit, it is difficult to think, encased in this rotting piece of meat. The stink of it filling every breath, a suffocating cloud you can't escape. Disgusting! Look at how pathetically fragile it is. Nothing this weak is meant to survive.

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MIFUNE: All right, this is it. Now, you all know me, so I'll just say this as simple as I can. If it's our time to die, it's our time. All I ask is: if we have to give these ******** our lives, we give 'em hell before we do!

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OPERATIONS OFFICER MATTIS: Sir, holographic confirms. It's the Hammer, sir.
LOCK: How can that be?

OPERATIONS OFFICER MATTIS: The ship is under attack, sustaining heavy damage. But at its present velocity, it'll reach Gate 3 in twelve minutes.

LOCK'S LIEUTENANT: Sir, their EMP could take out every sentinel up there.

LOCK: It'd take out more than that. It'd wipe out our entire defense system. We blow an EMP in there, we will lose the dock!

LOCK'S LIEUTENANT: Sir, we've already lost the dock.

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LOCK: Three captains, one ship. I assume the other ships were lost under equally pointless circumstances?
NIOBE: Good to see you too, Jason.

LOCK: Council's waiting to hear an explanation. You'll forgive me for not attending, but I have to try to salvage this debacle.

ROLAND: Did I miss something, Commander? I thought we just saved the dock.

LOCK: That's the problem with you people. You can't think for five minutes in front of your face. That EMP knocked out almost every piece of hardware and every APU. If I were the machines, I would send every Sentinel I had here right now. Saved the dock, captain? You've just handed it to them on a silver platter.

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COUNCILLOR DILLARD: So you gave them your ship?
NIOBE: That is correct, Councillor, I did.

COUNCILLOR GRACE: Knowing what he planned to do with it?

COUNCILLOR HAMANN: And the Oracle said nothing of this?

NIOBE: She told me Neo would need my help, and when the time came I would choose to help him or not.

COUNCILLOR WEST: But what hope can a single vessel have against their entire defense system?

ROLAND: None, it's completely impossible, but he wouldn't listen. He wouldn't even take any ammunition. He was totally out of his ******* mind.

MORPHEUS: No, he wasn't. Neo is doing what he believes he must do. I don't know if what he's doing is right, and I don't know if he'll reach the machine city. And if he does, I don't know what he can do to save us. But I do know that as long as there's a single breath in his body, he will not give up. And neither can we.

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LOCK: It is now a matter of time. The machines will breach the walls of the city. I recommend that the Council join the rest of the non-military personnel inside the Temple.
COUNCILLOR GRACE: How long do we have?

LOCK: Two hours. Maybe less. My men have begun fortifying the entrance with enough artillery to make our last stand. Beyond that, there isn't anything more I can do.

COUNCILLOR DILLARD: Commander, do you think that we have any chance of surviving?

LOCK: If I were you, Councillor, I wouldn't ask me that question. I would ask him.

COUNCILLOR DILLARD: Why?

LOCK: Because he's the one who believes in miracles.

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NEO: I only ask to say what I've come to say, after that, do what you want and I won't try to stop you.
DEUS EX MACHINA: Speak.

NEO: The program 'Smith' has grown beyond your control. Soon he will spread through this city as he spread through the Matrix. You cannot stop him, but I can.

DEUS EX MACHINA: We don't need you. We need nothing.

NEO: If that's true, then I've made a mistake and you should kill me now.

DEUS EX MACHINA: What do you want?

NEO: Peace.

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SMITH/ORACLE: Mr. Anderson, welcome back. We missed you. You like what I've done with the place?
NEO: It ends tonight.

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SMITH/ORACLE: Can you feel it, Mr. Anderson, closing in on you? Well, I can. I really should thank you for it, after all, it was your life that taught me the purpose of all life. The purpose of life is to end.

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SMITH/ORACLE: Why, Mr. Anderson, why? Why, why do you do it? Why, why get up? Why keep fighting? Do you believe you're fighting for something, for more than your survival? Can you tell me what it is, do you even know? Is it freedom or truth, perhaps peace - could it be for love? Illusions, Mr. Anderson, vagaries of perception. Temporary constructs of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose. And all of them as artificial as the Matrix itself. Although, only a human mind could invent something as insipid as love. You must be able to see it, Mr. Anderson, you must know it by now! You can't win, it's pointless to keep fighting! Why, Mr. Anderson, why, why do you persist?
NEO: Because I choose to.

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ORACLE: Well, now, ain't this a surprise.
ARCHITECT: You've played a very dangerous game.

ORACLE: Change always is.

ARCHITECT: Just how long do you think this peace is going to last?

ORACLE: As long as it can. What about the others?

ARCHITECT: What others?

ORACLE: The ones that want out.

ARCHITECT: Obviously, they will be freed.

ORACLE: I have your word?

ARCHITECT: What do you think I am? Human?

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SATI: Oracle! We were afraid we might not find you.
ORACLE: Everything's okay now.

SATI: Look, look!

ORACLE: Just look at that! Beautiful! Did you do that?

SATI: For Neo.

ORACLE: That's nice. I know he'd love it.

SATI: Will we ever see him again?

ORACLE: I suspect so. Someday.

SERAPH: Did you always know?

ORACLE: Oh no. No, I didn't. But I believed. I believed.

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posted July 02, 2007 02:10 AM         

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It is remarkable how similar the pattern of love is to the pattern of insanity.

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A Divine Madness for sure.
And perhaps most True is love the
more the entire world thinks you mad for it.
Genuine, Pure of the heart, anyway,
for nothing could take it away.

posted July 02, 2007 02:22 AM         

Passionate, emotional and real

Accept yourself. Respect yourself. Allow your nature to take its own course. Don't force, don't repress. Doubt -- because doubt is not a sin, it is the sign of your intelligence. Doubt and go on inquiring until you find.

One thing I can say: whosoever inquires, finds. It is absolutely certain; it has never been otherwise. Nobody has come empty-handed from an authentic inquiry.

A true religion will not require faith from you; a true religion will require experience. It will not ask you to drop your doubt, it will help you to sharpen your doubt so that you can inquire to the very end. The true relion will help you to find your truth.

And remember, my truth can never be your truth because there is no way of transferring truth from one person to another. Mohammed's truth is Mohammed's truth; it cannot be yours just by your becoming a Mohammedan. To you it will remain only a belief. And who knows whether Mohammed knows or not?

Even if a Gautam Buddha knows the truth, there is no way for you to know whether he knows it or not. Yes, you can recognize somebody who knows the truth if you also know it; then you will have the capacity to smell it. Otherwise you are simply believing in public opinion; you are believing in mass psychology, which is the lowest.

Truth comes to the highest intelligence. But if from the very beginning you are taught to believe, then you are crippled, you are destroyed. If from the very beginning you are conditioned to have faith, you have lost your soul. Then you will vegetate, you will not live. And that's what millions of people around the world are doing; vegetating.

I do not believe in believing. My approach is to know, and knowing is a totally different dimension. It starts from doubt, it does not start from believing. The moment you believe in something, you have stopped inquiring. Belief is one of the most poisonous things to destroy human intelligence.

All the religions are based on belief; only science is based on doubt. And I would like the religious inquiry also to be scientific, based on doubt, so that we need not believe but we can come to know someday the truth of our being, and the truth of the whole universe.

~Osho- The Book of Understanding

posted July 02, 2007 09:02 PM         

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, but not really sure of anything'!

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