posted November 12, 2007 11:47 PM         

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Lialei,
Nice to see you again

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You are Creation and Creator
you are Energy and Truth
You are the architect of the Universe
You are the beginning and the end
You are the essence of the individual soul
And the in the five elements of earth, fire, water, air, ether
Glory be to our divine God

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Thank you. It's nice to see you too. I liked the quote.
"You are Creation and Creator" ---
We're all Artists with a Blank Canvas
before us. I always love the thought of a blank canvas. Anything is possible and wide open.

posted November 12, 2007 11:51 PM         

Sometimes nothing is more challenging in this life
than to simply Be.
Seems at times all forces strive to
work against it.

What do you (all) think?

When I say "Be" I don't mean just existing, doing nothing. I mean it in the sense of living True to your Soul. Centering in on that Core that isn't distracted by the world and living one's Soul.

posted November 13, 2007 12:33 AM         

Honestly, at this point,
I think people develop organically.

I think,
if tools and methods are not available,
they manifest. Nature finds a way.

I think when a person is ready to "Be"
in the sense which you are referring to,
it just happens, like any other way of "being".

I think trying to force it is bull.

I think focus is good,
when it is done willingly.

I think it is never in the thing,
or in the action,
but in the attitude, or Spirit.

Spirit orchestrates all things.
And nothing hinders it,
though things appear to.

In reality,
all the things we know,
all the feelings and thoughts we have,
the actions we perform, etc.,
begin in the realm of Spirit.

When an inspiration reaches us
from the realm of Spirit,
we immediately spring into action.
We call this free will.

We alternate between the inner and outer worlds.
When we travel deeply enough into one,
we pass through into the other.
That passage is an end and a beginning.
As we evolve, we spin faster and faster
through the two worlds, until they become one.
Or until we come to the realization that they are one.

Its good to see you back at LL, Lia.
We are in sore need of your magic.

Love
s

posted November 13, 2007 12:44 AM         

"Allow," says God.

Two languages.

One decree.

posted November 13, 2007 10:05 AM         

Listenstotrees - Well I call him guru because he has made me look at myself in newer ways. I never spoke with him at all

Perhaps this association will dissolve after I have built for myself a beautiful bouquet with the choicest flowers.

But if you ask me what the meaning of life is "It is only to evolve."
And one can evolve if one is empowered with truths and not lies.

Now is it only a physical evolution , no. That is one aspect.

Is it spiritual evolution, yes and there are other evolutions as well. We need to go inside the human body to see what those are.

A river flows continuously doesn't it?
We are like that water in the river.

Life is like that River.

Hi Lialei, thats a nice analogy too.
Life is indeed a blank canvas.
Our memory, karma, etc...gets carried from life to life. Once we suck the beauty of the canvas, we need to absorb its beauty and then need to show it to others so they too can enjoy. Then we go in search of another blank canvas. The forces of the All will conspire not against but for you for your next endeavour.

Free will is a beautiful gift and supports evolution. The spirit inside has an eternal quest to know things. And mind it the spirit inside is also God and not different.

HSC, So you do believe in free will now don't you? We are all speaking the same thing in different languages thats all.

Calling in Mind what Buddha replied on being asked who or what created the universe. I don't have his book handy. But its absolutely brilliant, that is his response.

posted November 13, 2007 10:27 AM         

It is because of our ego that creates our separatedness.

posted November 13, 2007 10:36 AM         

Like it or not, no Man is an island. We are connected to each other. If you suffer, I suffer too.
If I am joyous, somewhere you will feel it too.

posted November 13, 2007 10:52 AM         

Yes it really helps just to be.
To be is to do whatever needs to be done in that context without bias to past memories.
If we can simply learn this, then a future is revealed to you in that brief moments. Just as lighting lights up the sky and you get a glimpse of the area around you. The forest does not seems dark any more.

The bad forces are ones own shadow that follows one. It injects fears and negativity in to us.

The forces of the All always wants us to do better. It knows whats best for us.
And speaks to us also but we are short of hearing. Many times our ego wins and we loose alignment with the All.

posted November 13, 2007 11:06 AM         

And sit does not mean just physical, but sitting with a total focus.

I am not master. But if you can correct me as you read my thoughts and it creates a bliss in you, I have served my purpose.

If anyone has a better thoughts on how to exchange our thoughts please share.

As long as you think these are concepts or ideas, you are already seperated from the me and the All.

To me you all are the All.
To you me and rest of us is the All.
Understand how the perspective changes.
And you can understand the islands better and later help you locate the center of all things that seems.

Coninuing my ramblings:
A master does not suffer.
Why should he? Only time he suffers is because we are still disillusioned.
One who has found an ocean of everlasting bliss within him/her can overcome all odds.
Let us strive to be that Master, and find our source of everlasting stream within us.

posted November 13, 2007 11:24 AM         

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But if you ask me what the meaning of life is "It is only to evolve."
And one can evolve if one is empowered with truths and not lies.

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Free will is a beautiful gift and supports evolution. The spirit inside has an eternal quest to know things. And mind it the spirit inside is also God and not different.

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Just converse with whatever you think is God and you will be fine.

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The forces of the All always wants us to do better. It knows whats best for us.
And speaks to us also but we are short of hearing. Many times our ego wins and we loose alignment with the All.

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To me you all are the All.
To you me and rest of us is the All.
Understand how the perspective changes.
And you can understand the islands better and later locate you the center of things.

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posted November 13, 2007 02:38 PM         

I liked your buddha quote as well and it was my holy grail for so many years and still is. Over the years I have come to an understanding of what it really means.

He simply didn't wanted to share his experience on what he saw in his meditation. Simply because it cannot be described in words. Words creates conflicts. Water is known by many people but when they describe it to others an american will say 'it is water' , a hindu will say 'it is jal', etc. When each one tastes it, they will realize the essence of h2o.

Buddha perhaps undertstood that. And if one follows his teachings closely he makes it possible for the disciple to arrive at a place from where everyone can dissapear in to Nibanna (the ultimate goal of any spiritual aspirant). Tao to chinese etc.

There are many many ways of joining the streams that will ultimately join the main river. Yoga, Mantra (with awareness), Tantra, etc....

Each practise comes and goes out of fashion based on present moment.

I am trying to dig the Pali scrolls where Buddha is said to have described the Universe objectively. Let me hunt or perhaps its only available with some ancient schools. I will post it if I find it.

Cheers!!!

posted November 13, 2007 03:29 PM         

A note for western readers: In India there were lot of castism during time of Buddha and still is. So I gather that one of the disciple approaches buddha and tries to understand the truth of castism. I know many vedic believers will argue that casticm is nothing but role play of workers in the society and that became distorted over the years.

Anyhow here goes:

http://www.buddhistinformation.com/ida_b_wells_memorial_sutra_library/agganna_sutta.htm

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The Agganna Sutta
On Knowledge of Beginnings

Thus have I heard. Once the Lord was staying at Savatthi, at the mansion of Migara’s mother in the East Park. And at that time Vasettha and Bharadvaja were living among the monks, hoping to become monks themselves. And in the evening, the Lord rose from his secluded meditation and came out of the mansion, and started walking up and down in its shade.

Vasettha noticed this and he said to Bharadvaja: ‘Friend Bharadvaja, the Lord has come out and is walking up and down. Let us approach him. We might be fortunate enough to hear a talk on Dhamma from the lord himself.’ Yes, indeed,’ said Bharadvaja, so they went up to the lord, saluted him, and fell into step with him.

Then the lord said to Vasettha: ‘Vasettha, you two are Brahmins born and bred, and you have gone forth from the household life into homelessness from Brahmin families. Do not the Brahmins revile and abuse you?’

‘Indeed, lord, the Brahmins do revile and abuse us. They don’t hold back with their usual flood of reproaches.’

‘Well, Vasettha, what kind of reproaches do they fling at you?’

‘Lord, what the Brahmins say is this, "The Brahmins caste is the highest caste—other castes are base; the Brahmin caste is fair, other castes are dark; Brahmins are purified, non-Brahmins are not, the Brahmins are the true children of Brahma, [1] born from his mouth, born of Brahma, heirs of Brahma. And you, you have deserted the highest class and gone over to the base class of shave-ling petty ascetics, servants, dark fellows born of Brahma’s Foot! It’s not right, it’s not proper for you to mix with such people!" That is the way the Brahmins abuse us, lord.’

‘Then, Vasettha, the Brahmins have forgotten their ancient tradition when they say that. Because we can see Brahmin women, the wives of Brahmins, who menstruate and become pregnant, have babies, and give milk. And yet these womb-born Brahmins talk about being born from Brahma’s mouth…These Brahmins misrepresent Brahma, tell lies and earn much demerit.

‘There are, Vasettha, these four castes: The Khattiyas, The Brahmins, the merchants and the artisans. And sometimes a Khattiya takes life, takes what is not given, commits sexual misconduct, tells lies, indulges in slander, harsh speech or idle chatter, is grasping, malicious, or of wrong views. Thus such things as are immoral and considered so, blameworthy and considered so, to be avoided and considered so, ways unbefitting an Ariyan and considered so, black with black result and blamed by the wise, are sometimes to found among the Khattiyas, and the same applies to Brahmins, merchants, and artisans.

‘Sometimes too, a Khattiya refrains from taking life, does not take what is not given, refrains from sexual misconduct, speaks truth, shuns slander, harsh speech or idle chatter, is not grasping, malicious, or of wrong views. Thus such things are moral and considered so, blameless and considered so, to be followed and considered so, ways befitting an Ariyan and considered so, bright with bright results and praised by the wise, are sometimes found among the Khattiyas, and likewise among Brahmins, merchants, and artisans.

‘Now since both dark and bright qualities, which are blamed and praised by the wise, are scattered indiscriminately among the four castes, the wise do not recognize the claim about the Brahmin caste being the highest. Why is that? Because, Vasettha, anyone from the four castes who becomes a monk, an Arahant who has destroyed the corruptions, who has lived the life, done what had to be done, laid down the burden, reached the highest goal, destroyed the fetter of becoming, and become emancipated through super-knowledge—he is proclaims supreme by virtue of Dhamma and not of non-Dhamma.

Dhamma is the best thing for people

In this life and the next as well.

‘This illustration will make clear to you how Dhamma is best in this world and the next. King Pasenadi of Kosala knows: "The ascetic Gotama has gone forth from the neighboring clan of the Sakyans." Now the Sakyans are vassals of the King of Kosala. They offer him humble service and salute him, rise and do him homage and pay him fitting service and just as the Sakyans offer the King humble service and salute him, rise and do him homage and pay him fitting service so likewise does the King offer humble service to the Tathágata, thinking, "If the ascetic Gotama is well-born, I am ill-born; if the ascetic Gotama is strong, I am weak; if the ascetic Gotama is pleasant to look at, I am ill-favored; if the ascetic Gotama is influential, I am of little influence." Now it is because of honoring the Dhamma, making much of the Dhamma, esteeming the Dhamma, doing reverent homage to the Dhamma that King Pasenadi does humble service to the Tathágata and pays him fitting service:

Dhamma is the best thing for people

In this life and the next as well.

Vasettha, all of you, though of different birth, name, clan and family, who have gone forth from the household life into homelessness, if you are asked who you are, you should reply: "We are ascetics, followers of the Sakyan." [2] He whose faith in the Tathágata is settled, rooted, established, solid, unshakable by any ascetic or Brahmin, any deva or mara or Brahma or anyone in the world, can truly say: "I am a true son of the Blessed Lord, born of his mouth, born of Dhamma, created by Dhamma, an heir of Dhamma." Why is that? Because, Vasettha, this designates the Tathágata: "The Body of Dhamma," that is "The Body of Brahma," [3] or "Become Dhamma," that is "Become Brahma." [4]

‘There comes a time, Vasettha, when, sooner or later after a long period this world contracts. At a time of contraction, beings are mostly born in the Abhassara Brahma world. And there they dwell, mind-made, feeding on delight, self luminous, moving through the air, glorious—and they stay like that for a very long time. But sooner or later, after a very long period, this world begins to expand again. At a time of expansion, the beings from the Abhassara Brahma world, having passed away from there, are mostly reborn in this world. Here they dwell, mind-made, feeding on delight, self-luminous, moving through the air, glorious—[5] and they stay like that for a very long time.

‘At that period, Vasettha, there was just one mass of water, and all was darkness, blinding darkness. Neither moon or sun appeared, no constellations or stars appeared, night and day were not yet distinguished, nor months and fortnights, nor years and seasons; there was no male and female, beings being reckoned just as beings. [6] And sooner or later, after a very long period of time, savory earth spread itself over the waters where those beings were. It looked just like the skin that forms itself over hot milk as it cools. It was endowed with color, smell, and taste. It was the color of fine ghee or butter and it was very sweet, like pure wild honey.

‘Then some being of a greedy nature said: "I say, what can this be?" and tasted the savory earth on its finger. In so doing, it became taken with the flavor, and craving arose in it. Then other beings, taking their cue from that one, also tasted the stuff with their fingers. They too were taken with the flavor, and craving arose in them. So they set to with their hands, breaking off pieces of the stuff in order to eat it. And the result was that their self luminance disappeared. And as a result of the disappearance of their self luminance the moon and the sun appeared, night and day were distinguished, months and fortnights appeared, and the year and its seasons. To that extent the world re-evolved.

‘And those beings continued for a very long time feasting on this savory earth, feeding on it and being nourished by it. And as they did so, their bodies became coarser, and a difference in looks developed among them. Some beings became good looking, others ugly. And the good looking ones despised the others, saying: "We are better looking than they are." And because they became arrogant and conceited about their looks, the savory earth disappeared. At this they came together and lamented, crying, "Oh, that flavor! Oh, that flavor!" and so nowadays when people say, "Oh, that flavor!" when they get something nice, they are repeating an ancient saying without realizing it.

‘And then, when the savory earth disappeared, a fungus cropped up, in the manner of a mushroom. It was of good color, smell, and taste. It was the color of fine ghee or butter, and it was very sweet, like pure wild honey. And those beings set to and ate the fungus. And this lasted for a very long time. And as they continued to feed on the fungus, so their bodies become coarser still, and the difference in their looks increased still more. And the good looking ones despised the others…and because they became arrogant and conceited about their looks, the sweet fungus disappeared. Next, creepers appeared, shooting up like bamboo…and they too were very sweet, like pure wild honey.

‘And those beings set to and fed on those creepers. And as they did so, their bodies became even coarser, and the difference in their looks increased still more…and they became still more arrogant, and so the creepers disappeared too. At this they came together and lamented, crying: "Alas, our creepers gone! What have we lost!" and so now today when people, one being asked why they are upset, say: "Oh what have we lost!" they are repeating an ancient saying without realizing it.

‘And then, after the creepers had disappeared, rice appeared in open spaces, free from powder and from husks, fragrant and clean grained. And what they had taken in the evening for supper had grown again and was ripe in the morning, and what they had taken in the morning for breakfast was ripe again by evening, with no sign of reaping. And these beings set to and fed on this rice, and this lasted for a very long time. And as they did so, their bodies became coarser still, and the difference in their looks became even greater. And the females developed female sex organs and the males developed male sex organs. And the women became excessively preoccupied with the men, and the men with the women. Owing to this excessive preoccupation with each other, passion was aroused, and their bodies burnt with lust. And later because of this burning, they indulged in sexual activity. But those who saw them indulging threw dust, ashes, or cow-dung at them, crying: "Die, you filthy beast! How can one being do such things to another!" Just as today, in some districts, when a daughter-in-law is led out, some people throw dirt at her, some ashes, and some cow dung, without realizing that they are repeating an ancient observance. What was considered bad form in those days is now considered good form.

‘And those beings who in those days indulged in sex were not allowed into a village or town for one or two months. Accordingly those who indulged for an excessively long period in such immoral practices began to build themselves dwellings so as to indulge under cover.

‘Now it occurred to one of those beings who was inclined to laziness, "Well now, why should I be bothered to gather rice in the evening for supper and in the morning for breakfast? Why shouldn’t I gather it all at once for both meals?" And he did so. Then another one came to him and said, "Come on, lets go rice-gathering." "No need, my friend, I’ve gathered enough for both meals." Then the other, following his example, gathered enough rice for two days at a time, saying, "That should be about enough." Then another being came to that second one, "Come on, lets go rice gathering." "No need my friend, I’ve gathered enough for two days." (The same for four, then eight days.) However, when those beings made a store of rice and lived on that, husk-powder and husk began to envelop the grain, and where it was reaped it did not grow again, and the cut place showed, and the rice grew in separate clusters.

‘And then those beings came together lamenting, "Wicked ways have become rife among us: at first we were mind made, feeding on delight…(All the events are repeated down to the latest development, each fresh change being said to be due to ‘wicked and unwholesome ways)…and the rice grows in separate clusters! So now let us divide up the rice into fields with boundaries." So they did so.

‘Then, Vasettha, one greedy-natured being, while watching over his own plot, took another plot that was not given to him, and enjoyed the fruits of it. So they seized hold of him and said, "You’ve done a wicked thing, taking another’s plot like that! Don’t ever do such a thing again!" "I won’t," he said, but he did the same thing a second and a third time. Again, he was seized and rebuked, and some hit him with their fists, some with stones, and some with sticks. And in this way, Vasettha, taking what was not given, and censuring, and lying, and punishment took their origin.

‘Then those beings came together and lamented the arising of these evil things among them: taking what was not given, censuring, lying, and punishment. And they thought: "Suppose we were to appoint a certain being who would show anger where anger was due, censure those who deserved it, and banish those who deserved banishment! And in return we would grant him a share of the rice." So they went to the one among them who was the handsomest, the best-looking, most pleasant and capable, and asked him to do this for them in return for a share of the rice, and he agreed.

"The People’s Choice" is the meaning of Maha-Sammata, [7] which is the first regular title to be introduced. "Lord of the Fields" is the meaning of Khattiya, the second such title. And "He Gladdens Others With Dhamma" is the meaning of Raja, the third title to be introduced. This, then, Vasettha, is the origin of the class of Khattiyas, in accordance with the ancient titles that were introduced for them. They originated among the very same beings, like ourselves, no different and in accordance with Dhamma, not otherwise.

Dhamma is the best thing for people

In this life and the next as well.

‘Then some beings thought, "Evil things have appeared among beings, such as taking what is not given, censuring, lying, punishment and banishment. We ought to put aside evil and unwholesome things." And they did so. "They Put Aside Evil and Unwholesome Things" is the meaning of Brahmin, which is the first regular title to be introduced for such people. They made leaf-huts in forest places and meditated in them. With the smoking fire gone out, with pestle cast aside, gathering alms for their evening and morning meals, they went away to a village, town, or royal city to seek their food, and then they returned to their leaf-huts to meditate. People saw this and noted how they meditated. "They Meditate" is the meaning of Jhayaka, which is the second regular title to be introduced.

‘However, some of those beings, not being able to meditate in leaf huts, settled around towns and villages and compiled books. People saw them doing this and not meditating.

‘Now "These Do Not Meditate" is the meaning of Ajjhayaka, which is the third regular title to be introduced. At that time it was regarded as a low designation, but now it is the higher. This, then, Vasettha, is the origin of the class of Brahmins in accordance with the ancient titles that were introduced for them. Their origin was from among the very same beings, like themselves, not different, and in accordance with Dhamma, not otherwise.

Dhamma is the best thing for people

In this life and the next as well.

‘And then, Vasettha, some of those beings, having paired off, adopted various trades, and this "various" is the meaning of Vessa, which came to be the regular title for such people. This then is the origin of the class of Vessas, in accordance with the ancient titles that were introduced for them. Their origin was from among these very same beings like themselves, no different, and in accordance with Dhamma, not otherwise.

‘And then, Vasettha, those beings that remained went in for hunting. "They Are Base Who Live By The Chase," and that is the meaning of Sudda, which came to be the regular title for such people. This, then, is the origin of the class of Suddas [8] in accordance with the ancient titles that were introduced for them. Their origin was from among these very same beings like themselves, no different, and in accordance with Dhamma, not otherwise.

‘And then, Vasettha, it came about that some Khattiya, dissatisfied with his own Dhamma, went forth from the household life into homelessness, thinking, "I will become an ascetic." And a Brahmin did likewise, a Vessa did likewise, and so did a Sudda. And from these four classes the class of ascetics came into existence. Their origin was from among these very same beings, like themselves, no different, and in accordance with Dhamma, not otherwise.

Dhamma is the best thing for people

In this life and the next as well.

‘And, Vasettha, a Khattiya who has led a bad life in body, speech and thought, and who has wrong view will, in consequence of such wrong views and deeds, at the breaking up of the body after death, be reborn in a state of loss, an ill fate, the downfall, the hell-state. So too will a Brahmin, a Vessa or a Sudda.

‘Likewise, a Khattiya who has led a good life in body, speech, and thought, and who has right view will, in consequence of such right view and deeds, at the breaking up of the body after death, be reborn in a good destiny, in a heaven-state. So too will a Brahmin, a Vessa or a Sudda.

‘And a Khattiya who has performed deeds of both kinds in body, speech and thought, and whose view is mixed will, in consequence of such mixed views and deeds, at the breaking-up of the body after death, experience both pleasure and pain. So too will a Brahmin, a Vessa, or a Sudda.

‘And a Khattiya who is restrained in Body, speech and thougth, and who has developed the seven requisites of enlightenment, will attain to parinirvana in this very life. So too will a Brahmin, a Vessa, or a Sudda.

And, Vasettha, whoever of these four castes, as a monk, becomes an Arahant who has destroyed the corruptions, done what had to be done, laid down the burden, attained to the highest goal, completely destroyed the fetter of becoming, and become liberated by the highest insight, he is declared to be chief among them in accordance with Dhamma, and not otherwise.

Dhamma’s the best thing for people

In this life and the next as well.

Vasettha, it was Brahma Sanankumara who spoke this verse:

The Khattiya’s best among those who value clan;

He with knowledge and conduct is best of gods and men.

This verse was rightly sung, not wrongly, rightly spoken, not wrongly, connected with profit, not unconnected. I too say, Vasettha:

The Khattiya’s best among those who value clan;

He with knowledge and conduct is best of gods and men.

Thus the lord spoke, and Vasettha and Bharadvaja were delighted and rejoiced at his words.

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posted November 14, 2007 12:43 PM         

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Yes it really helps just to be.
To be is to do whatever needs to be done in that context without bias to past memories.
If we can simply learn this, then a future is revealed to you in that brief moments. Just as lighting lights up the sky and you get a glimpse of the area around you. The forest does not seems dark any more.

The bad forces are ones own shadow that follows one. It injects fears and negativity in to us.

The forces of the All always wants us to do better. It knows whats best for us.
And speaks to us also but we are short of hearing. Many times our ego wins and we loose alignment with the All.

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He simply didn't wanted to share his experience on what he saw in his meditation. Simply because it cannot be described in words. Words creates conflicts. Water is known by many people but when they describe it to others an american will say 'it is water' , a hindu will say 'it is jal', etc. When each one tastes it, they will realize the essence of h2o.

Buddha perhaps undertstood that. And if one follows his teachings closely he makes it possible for the disciple to arrive at a place from where everyone can dissapear in to Nibanna (the ultimate goal of any spiritual aspirant). Tao to chinese etc.

There are many many ways of joining the streams that will ultimately join the main river. Yoga, Mantra (with awareness), Tantra, etc....

Each practise comes and goes out of fashion based on present moment.

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Yes, words create conflict.

There are things that simply cannot be known through words!

Reading your words today I feel like I am drinking fresh, clear water from the fountain of truth.
Of rememberance of who we truly are.

posted November 14, 2007 02:44 PM         

I am so glad for you. It is why I said before 'truth' is already in us and we have forgotten it and when we hear some words we make a connection to those truths.

One thing while reading ancient books of Gurus is that their disciples are known to have edited the original words. It has happened with all gurus even Buddha.

Anyhow heres some more :

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Introduction to Agama Sutra: The First Buddhist Scripture
A Lecture by Dr. Thomas Tam, Executive Director, AAARI
June 6th, 2002

One of my fondest memory involved a lecture about how the sixth Chinese Zen master, Wei Nung, was chosen. Wei Nung was an illiterate monk who worked mostly in the kitchen of the monastery, when the abbot announced a poem contest to choose his successor. Sun Siu, a most highly respected monk, wrote the following poem:

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I treat my body like a bodhi tree,
And my mind, I treat it like a panel of mirror.
I will often wipe and clean them diligently,
To make sure that no dust may settle on them.

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The entire monastery marveled at the imagery conjured up by Sun Siu, and the fine sentiments presented by him. They thought that the contest would be over, when Wei Nung, inquiring about the excitement, asked someone to read the poem to him. After he heard it, he composed his response, and asked his friend to write it down for him. This is what he wrote:

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Bodhi does not grow from a tree,
And a mirror needs not be a panel.
From the start, there is not anything.
On where can dust settle?

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