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guy_me_19
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posted November 21, 2007 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for guy_me_19     Edit/Delete Message
As for the pi and circle thing, it is PROVED my friend, by mathematics that the ratio is a constant number always - in all circles. Now this number - this ratio's value is slightly less than the value of pi - 22/7. But whatever is the value, - whatever is this number it remains the constant number in all circles. Do you say that the presence to some nth decimal place of this irrational number is a test of the perfection of the circle? That perhaps if the number is present to, say, the 28th decimal place, we can say that the circle is perfect to -- let us say -- the 28th degree? is that what you say?


The constancy of the number is proved by maths. Now that the number remains constant always indicates that it has an absolute value. That we cannot ascertain to nth decimal place its absolution is quite another matter - but proved we have that the number remains constant always no matter what the radius of the circle, ie, whatever the circle. Thus the circle remains a circle.

Perhaps you intend to say that if we draw circles with our hand, the ratio will differ - the circle will not be a circle but a regular polygon of a great many number of sides - only looking like a circle but not actually one. If it is seen under a microscope then it will no longer be a circle but a regular polygon of many many sides. Yes, obviously, that is true. And the inadequacy is in the instrument used to draw the circle. In that case, then, we can also never draw a perfect straight line, leave alone a circle. But perfect circles do exist in nature. If there is a wire of infinite length and electricity flows through it, the magnetic field encircling it will be circular - perfectly. If you can see it with some instrument or with your own eyes, you will see perfect circles. [The experiment for this is: If you make this wire pierce through paper and on the paper scatter many tiny magnets, then the needles of these magnets will point in such a way that they will look like completing/indicating a circle.]


So, where do we go from here? The above are facts, BTW.


For Einstein I already clarified that. Perhaps you didn't read when I told yo what he would have supposedly reasoned to himself. Please read that again. Its plain speculation, BTW, because I LOVE and sympathize with the man, and identify with him at one level too. I told you already why he would ignore the sub-atomic world of photons and Niel Bohr and Planck.

Theory can be proved by mathematics. It is only established well in our consciousness by experiment. We might not have experiments to prove theories, they will still have the status of facts if they are proved by mathematics.

I am a Taurean, yes, what sign are you? I have Libra rising, Virgo moon. I do not like the way you ask me the question. I do not like the way you punctuate your sentences laughing and sneering. I do not feel offended but I think it is something unworthy of appreciation and acceptance by anyone. It does not speak well of a person, and shows him in a very poor light.

The only adjective for Taurus is not stubbornness, which, BTW, is their greatest strength. If a parent breaks the "spirit of stubbornness" of a Taurean child in the latter's childhood, it will have serious impact on his psyche later on, unless he is not wise/practical enough to gather and call back on his strength - his stubbornness.

">>>Light particles behaving as waves is another fine example of th symmetry of nature.
Ughhmmm.... symmetry or duality. "

Symmetry and thus duality too. Like right hand and left hand. Two thus dual and alike thus symmetric. Symmetry has duality and is called symmetry because of the alikeness of the duality - the dual elements.


I have noticed each time that you never stick to the topic at hand - jumping from one thing to another. And you would not care to listen to what the other person is saying, and discussing the aspect of the subject which is being discussed, rather, you would talk of another aspect that is an opposing one. Obviously, there are many aspects to any entity but we can discuss only one at a time!? And lastly, it takes labour to unnerstand to what you are saying given the numerous grammatical errors + the incoherency and general disjointedness of your dialog.


As for my spiritual journeys, I haven't undertaken any; I am lost.

Bichhude Hain Piyaare-se, Bhatakte Darbadar firate. (Haman hai ishq mastaana, Kabir)

Thank you very much for your concern, but you needn't worry.

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Mannu
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posted November 21, 2007 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message

>>>>There is a perfect plan in an imperfect universe and world. There is also a perfect plan in the journies of imperfect people.

I find it funny when people call others imperfect. Perhaps I should have addressed the stubborn taurean Mirandee directly so that you didn't feel I was addressing you. But I already told her I will shy away from commenting on her posts. Well I am trying, but I fail. Perhaps I must just ignore all her posts.

Out dude
Calm down first. I am so out of all your posts from this moment. I can't handle 2 taureans . No its 3, including the actress in the first post

Perhaps we can meet at a science forum where we can keep God out of this. Until then. Good bye mate.


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Mirandee
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posted November 21, 2007 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
Here's your bag of garbage, Mannu. Take it back because I refuse to accept your bag of garbage.

You just sit there and hold that garbage bag you wish to dump on me in your own lap where it belongs. It's not mine and I don't own it. I won't own it.

Guy_me is right. It reflects more on your character than it does mine.

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BlueTopaz124
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posted November 21, 2007 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
I was thinking the same thing, so we are balanced (in more ways than one lol)

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guy_me_19
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posted November 22, 2007 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for guy_me_19     Edit/Delete Message
"stubborn taurean Mirandee" WOW! Talk of abusing the freedom of expression around here! And you talk down to a woman? What kind of man are you?

You say, "I find it funny when people call others imperfect." Yet, you call Mirandee stubborn. I said, "it takes labour to unnerstand to what you are saying given the numerous grammatical errors + the incoherency and general disjointedness of your dialog." Which is true, my friend. For example, you write, "The part cannot understand the whole. The logic/reasoning cannot understand God." Given the incorrect grammar in the 2 lines, I had to read thrice to understand what you implied. It is left to the sane sense of the reader to understand when someone writes as poorly as that. Now, I did not use the word 'imperfect'; you did, and BTW, the word is pertinent here. A teacher of English would sure use that word if she were reading you. Also, consider the absurdity of the line: 'It put water on Einstein's dreams.'

And from a discussion of physics and God, you jump onto the issue of terrorism and patriotism, 'A patriot is a terrorist for another country.' WOW! Hats off, dude!

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