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Topic: Obama & Mabus & Nostradamus
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AcousticGod
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From: Dublin, CA
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posted November 02, 2008 02:58 AM
  
I think Mannu got both JFK and Obama wrong. Yes, Democrats do work for peace, but both of these men advocated taking strong foreign policy stances. Republicans even parroted out JFK's inaugeral speech in their An American Carol movie as if to imply that Michael Moore (and perhaps Democrats in general) aren't as tough as they once were.JFK participated in the military during WW2. He commanded a patrol torpedo boat. As President he OK'ed Republican Eisenhower's Bay of Pigs plan. He also presided during the Cuban Missile Crisis. He also initiated military support for Southern Vietnam. In fact, if JFK hadn't been assassinated, John McCain may not have ended up being a prisoner in Vietnam for five years. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy#Vietnam for details. Obama has been a strong proponent of wrapping up the Iraq conflict. That's true. However, he's also been a strong proponent of actually going back to the War on Terror in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Not exactly a "pussy" move. It's interesting and fascinating to me that those who campaign from a place of fear make their opponents out as cowards or weak. Doesn't really make sense. _______________________ Californians: No on H8 IP: Logged |
Mannu
Knowflake Posts: 45
From: always here and no where
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 02, 2008 12:14 PM
LHO, Yeah , you understood me without I telling you. You are open minded indeed.Tink  AG - Wiki is a liberal owned site. You need to rise above your drone logic  Lexx - It is impossible to know anyone especially a cardinal sign like me LOL and
I am still the same you thought you knew. When we agree you say you know me when we don't you say you don't. I thought I knew you too, you too are not the same. I think the problem is you construed my comments as too sexist, so I apologize to you lovely ladies before hand. So are we not allowed to say anything if its not politically or socially correct? Thats typical liberal attitude ain't it?
Gosh - this is bad place to discuss politics it appears. Catch you all in GU if you want me.
Cheers!!!
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lotusheartone
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posted November 02, 2008 01:43 PM
Mannu, Thanks, I do try!politics, has such a strong vibration of opposition, instead of balance..
when will ALL unite?
we are all on the same boat(EARTH)! All my love, with all my heart
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AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 8743
From: Dublin, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 02, 2008 02:15 PM
It's interesting to see the responses that come up when a person has no arguement.IP: Logged |
Mannu
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From: always here and no where
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 02, 2008 07:26 PM
AG you and your minions live in a fantasy world. Check what Nadar said on difficulties of fighting in Afghanistan. Bush was bent on going after the 3 countries identified in the axis of evil and hence went to Iraq before Afghanistan was over. Its my opinion. I did not read it anywhere. So now we have North Korea who surrendered to US demands  , with Iraq we are getting there, thanks to General Patreaus, and Iran is still untouched. Perhaps the next president will decide what to do on Iran. Though, Iran got the message loud and clear, thanks to a butch America. When US says, it means it. It is an opportunity for Iran to rectify their terrorism acts against Americans. Someone told me , never to go to these Islam nations with US passport. You are never sure what will happen. JFK was a misfit in military - read his autobiography. It does not matter what others says, fact is you are your own judge. JFK has judged himself in his own words. And Comparing Obama and JFK besides being pussy is stupid - JFK was proponent of anti-communism, Obama is a well known marxist. He sits in a church that spews hatred for Americans. How can he be my president? He did not even go to Iraq since 2006, while Jolie has been there. quote:
Whoeever says "There is no war fought that was honourable and no peace that is dishonourable" needs to think twice.
LHO - We can be united if there is reform at individual level not group level that AG's candidate proposes. Obama confuses difference between religion and state when he says "you are your brothers keeper", etc, while even Jesus said give due what Caesar and give God whats due him. 
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lotusheartone
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posted November 02, 2008 07:33 PM
I agree, it starts with each individual..wanting to Unite, and not oppose one another, with comPromise... Our Promise for Tomorrow All my love, with all my heart
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Azalaksh
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From: New Brighton, MN, USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 02, 2008 08:26 PM
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He did not even go to Iraq since 2006, while Jolie has been there.
Perhaps you missed this in your news-outlet-of-choice:Obama meets Iraqi PM in Baghdad
Page last updated at 17:32 GMT, Monday, 21 July 2008 18:32 UK US Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama has met the Iraqi prime minister on his first visit to Baghdad as part of a major foreign tour. (rest of article here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7516624.stm ) IP: Logged |
Mannu
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posted November 02, 2008 08:30 PM
I didn't say it well, he went after Jolie was there in Feb 2008.So Obama goes after 817 days and while we were still counting. And he went because we brought this to his attention. Seems, he is more interested in the White House. McCain would have been on him if he didn't. http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/05/mccain_counts_obamas_days_ti l.html God save America, he is so phony and hypocrite.
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LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 02, 2008 09:41 PM
God save us from brainwashed people and propaganda...------------------
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Mannu
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posted November 02, 2008 09:54 PM
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lotusheartone
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posted November 02, 2008 10:00 PM
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/004621.html All my love, with all my heart
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LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
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posted November 02, 2008 10:06 PM
I did not start this thread for political debate or whatever.
I'd appreciate it if all take it to GU.
I will not be joining in.------------------
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lotusheartone
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posted November 02, 2008 10:14 PM
I did not mean to offend you Lexx...
just presenting what is being said, you
know, free speech, just as you have free
speech...such as calling people brainwashed... All my love, with all my heart
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LEXX
Knowflake Posts: 9745
From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
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posted November 02, 2008 10:39 PM
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I did not mean to offend you Lexx...
just presenting what is being said, you
know, free speech, just as you have free
speech...
No ofrense, simply not what I started this thread for..political debate of the GU type. quote:
such as calling people brainwashed...
People are brainwashed....
and we cannot believe anything much about either candidate....propaganda and disinformation abound...and its OK then for Mannu to use offensive slurs such as calling a man a Pussy????????????
I am sure he has been called many things by bigots himself. He should know better.
And for him to accuse a man of being gay or bi, whether true or not...as if it would be a BAD thing... came as quite a shock coming from him to say the least. And read the entire thread...I am not happy with Obama...but I see him as hopefully less dangerous than a white rich ultra conservative who thinks it funny ha ha to crack jokes about bombing. Not funny at all or very politically tactful in these times. ------------------
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Mannu
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posted November 02, 2008 10:48 PM
Lexx, I am allowed to call any public figure pussy. I didn't name call you.
I have a 10th house mars - I don't think you ever knew the agressive side of me. If you followed GU perhaps you would.And you are so cheap. Forget that we were ever friends.
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lotusheartone
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posted November 02, 2008 10:51 PM
No, I don't think it is okay for Mannu to talk that way...I do recall a red-neck thread you started in free for all, or Lindaland central, though, so, I thought, if it was okay for you, it was okay for Mannu..you know!? I won't post in this string any longer..
I'll keep the politics in GU... All my love, with all my heart
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LEXX
Knowflake Posts: 9745
From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
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posted November 02, 2008 10:56 PM
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Lexx, I am allowed to call any public figure pussy. I didn't name call you.
I have a 10th house mars - I don't think you know me well.And you are cheap. Forget that we were ever friends.
I treasured what was and am deeply saddened that you hate me now  ....and call me cheap....because of politics? Because I believe in Peace? Because
I'd vote for a black man? Because I am offended you use sexist slurs like calling a man a pussy?
So you were not the gentle open minded spiritual man I came to respect? You lied to me?????????? May God have mercy on your tortured soul.  ------------------
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lotusheartone
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posted November 02, 2008 11:02 PM
O M G, I had to come back, it's funny, that everything you do LEXX is okay, like calling people rednecks, and brainwashed, you judge people all the time, just like you are judging Mannu, now!Look at what you do, before you go judging other people, what they think, and what they do... How dare you!? All my love, with all my heart
To ALL. ... P.S. I honestly can't believe your last post, like your innocent of doing anything wrong, my GOD! IP: Logged |
LEXX
Knowflake Posts: 9745
From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
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posted November 02, 2008 11:06 PM
I am not perfect Lotus.
If you want to hate me too...again...go ahead. 
I see many judging here...including you.
No one is innocent in that arena.------------------
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lotusheartone
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posted November 02, 2008 11:11 PM
this was not about me, it's what was going on with you and your friend Mannu, and you judging him, when you really have no right to, two wrongs, do not make a right...yes, I did judge you, by your actions... for it's always okay for you, but not anyone else.. and you turn it all around, say we've betrayed you, etc, frankly, I thought we would be further along... All my love, with all my heart
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TINK
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posted November 02, 2008 11:11 PM
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I am not happy with Obama...but I see him as hopefully less dangerous than a white rich ultra conservative
."White rich ultra conservative"?  Gee, lexx, you almost make that sound like a bad thing. Exactly where did McCain go wrong? The rich part, the conservative part or the white part? IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 8743
From: Dublin, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 02, 2008 11:14 PM
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AG you and your minions live in a fantasy world.
I don't have any minions, and I'm pretty certain the reverse of what you're thinking is true. Just look at all the conspiracies you're jumping on in order to try to keep Obama from being elected. I would be embarrassed to act like you guys who seem to think the world will end if Obama wins. If you were familiar with American politics, you'd know how far Obama can go with the ideas you assign to him, and you'd realize that you have a lot less reason for alarm. quote:
with Iraq we are getting there
What most don't realize is that things in Iraq are extraordinarily delicate even now. An unraveling of the situation there is still imminently possible, and it's not a military matter per se, but rather trying to reconcile the three major groups of people. quote:
JFK was a misfit in military - read his autobiography. It does not matter what others says, fact is you are your own judge. JFK has judged himself in his own words.
So was McCain, by his own admission as well. IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted November 02, 2008 11:15 PM
TINK..
I am not going to start posting all the things I dislike about him.And you are correct...those are not his actual negatives.....except the ultra conservative bit. Everyone vote for who you want to.
The election is probably rigged anyhow. And BTW...
Happy Birthday! 
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TINK
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posted November 02, 2008 11:21 PM
JFK participated in the military during WW2. He commanded a patrol torpedo boat. As President he OK'ed Republican Eisenhower's Bay of Pigs plan. He also presided during the Cuban Missile Crisis. He also initiated military support for Southern Vietnam. In fact, if JFK hadn't been assassinated, John McCain may not have ended up being a prisoner in Vietnam for five years. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy#Vietnam for details.Say again? AG, that is possibly the most disingenuous description of the Kennedy administration as I have ever come across. I know you know better. Please tell me you know better. Let's start with Robert McNamara and proceed from there. IP: Logged |
LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
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posted November 02, 2008 11:22 PM
AG Watch it...you will be accused of judging too!
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Just vote folks. Or don't. I really do not care if you do or do not.
Things will unfold as they will.
In fact this is all making me consider not voting.
Let the chips fall where they may. ------------------
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