posted December 26, 2008 11:47 PM           

Yes, this subject is curious to me....interesting while at the same time, not at all. I don't know, I feel i would like to learn more anyway so that's what I'm doing.

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Each of us is a house of spirits- we all come in contact with various energies, both positive and negative, and other astral influences as we live through our daily lives. Some may disagree with this notion, though.

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That is a very interesting way of putting it! You may be onto something. I'm reading the book HSC mentioned earlier in the thread now, which is turning out to be a great read. Perhaps many of us are housing spirits, for better and worse....it would help me make sense of many people, including myself. Apparently they are most often let in through some sort of trauma.

Well, back to the book. Thanks for stopping in! Don't be a stranger.

posted December 27, 2008 03:30 PM         

when you allow your aura to be depleted, suffer shock, trauma even, you ARE more open to invasion by bad "spirits" or emotions/thoughts. abraham-hicks point out that if you're feeling bad about something you are thinking about it the wrong way! which is one of the simplest ways of monitoring your psychic health i've ever come across...

clearing these things is not easy and some of the exorcisms/clearings people go through involve shock treatment to jolt them out of the rut they've got into. this may be necessary...but as far as prevention goes, one needs to realize mainly that love DOES conquer all (as already mentioned) and that if your thoughts are harrassing you in ANY way, you need to find another way to see them, tend more lovingly to your body to keep your strength up, and for me at least, learn how to surround yourself with good, clean, strong loving energy. which may mean shunning certain acquaintances who feed into the poisonous stuff as well. but mostly means acquainting yourself with your own emotional barometer and how to adjust it.

posted December 27, 2008 06:33 PM           

The second book (Samuel Sagan's book) has arrived and I look forward to delving into it soon.

posted December 29, 2008 09:24 AM           

Dr. Sagan's book found me in perfect timing and I havent read something so refreshing, comforting even, in awhile.

posted December 29, 2008 11:28 PM           

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riviting information. please post more as you read the books.

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posted December 31, 2008 11:55 AM           

Youre doing a better job of summing it up than I ever could. That's not my specialty. Dr. Sagan's book is a fascinating page turner, full of great info. It's really making me re-think alot of things. And I didnt realize how much Ayurveda and ancient Taoists recognized "entities" and how these things operate.

I remember my mother telling me about when my brother was a baby he had really bad night terrors and would stand in his crib screaming and crying bloody murder and she had a very hard time consoling him. It was like he was seeing things in the room that she couldnt. Sagan touches on things like this in the book and after understanding more about how these energies work, it's not hard to see what might have been going on there.

I'm finding chapter 7 to be intensely interesting. I'll share something from it:

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7.2 Astral Transfers During Pregnancy

Let us now consider certain extraordinary mechanisms related to pregnancy. Mother, the French-born yogi who was for many years in charge of the Sri Aurobindo Ashram in Pondicherry, India, commented in her Agenda on strange connections between parents and children. 1 Her vision was that, durning pregnancy a number of the mother's repressed psychological tendencies tend to "come out" and contaminate the baby. All sorts of vicious instincts and negative qualities that the woman had buried inside her subconscious and forgotten about are released, and pass into the child. Mother, who was ninety-one at the time, remembered something she had read a very long time previously, possibly by the French author Renan: "Beware of the children of nice, respectable parents because birth is a purge." (Mother was laughing while saying this) The same French author suggested one should also watch the children of really "bad" people carefully because these children too often show dispositions that are diametrically opposed to those of their parents.

Mother was puzzled by the horrible temper of the children of certain very well-to-do parents in her ashram. So she applied her immense vision to childbirth and came to the conclusion that having children for many people was a way of throwing out everything they didnt want in themselves, exactly like a purge. Seen from this perspective, the common saying that pregnancey heals many of the mother's troubles takes on a new dimension.

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posted December 31, 2008 12:11 PM           

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At the delivery an astral shattering takes place, not unlike that of death, but on a lower scale. Some fragments of the mother's astral body suddenly seperate and go with the baby. These fragments do not become an entity in the baby, but a component of its own astral body.

Other astral bits and pieces, both from the mother and child, are released and create a situation of "fallout" similar to what happens after death, but less intense. Naturally, the placenta will be a prime target for these various astral fragments. This is another reason why one should make sure that all the etheric placenta is eliminated in the weeks following the delivery.

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Another effect of the minor astral shattering that takes place after birth is to contribute to the state of emptiness, if not depression, often experienced by the mother around that time. It would be excessive to regard this shattering as the only cause of postpartum depression. A pregnancy is a tiring enterprise and one does not need to be clairvoyant to understand why the mother may feel empty after the birth. Still, the shattering appears to be an important factor in influencing the mother's emotional reactions and the subsequent psychological transformations she may go through.

The main consequence of these astral transfers is that most human beings inherit a number of undesirable tendencies while in their mother's womb. Note that this does not happen entirely by chance. WHen observing the mechanisms by which wandering souls choose their parents, one realizes that there are usually good reasons why a particular soul is driven to a particular mother. In the astral worlds, like attracts like. A kind of resonance takes place between the dispositions of the baby-to- be and that of its mother-to-be. In other words, a soul is attracted to parents whose astral bodes have some kind of similarity to its own.

However, it is not at all rare for a soul to be attracted to a mother because of certain qualities of hers, and then unexpectedly inherit a whole package of other ones. The people who think that nothing is left to chance in the mechanisms of reincarnation overlook on basic fact -- the present condition of the human astral body is a complete mess. Remember, on the astral level, you are not a person you are a mob. You are made of a crowd of characters, and each has its own dispositions and desires. A baby may well be attracted to you because of a particular character,and then inherit features related to other ones with which it does not have any connection. A real solution to this problem can only come if parents undertake a systematic catharsis of their conscious and unconscious mind before conceiving their children.

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posted January 02, 2009 03:52 AM           

i'm glad D talked about it on another thread because i suspected that something was going on but i couldn't be sure as i also had had a mystical experience and was confusiong everything. it was like if i had moved to china without speaking or understanding mandarin;

i'm grateful u talk about it because it shed some light on the subject and can help other who struggle to find a cure. it can be hard to sort this kind of problems because u might be seen as a nutcase by others and because the entity can make you feel lethargic or doubtful when it comes to taking action.

guys