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posted December 21, 2008 08:52 PM         

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Woa. This was a long read but fascinating. A lot of what he says sounds similar to the teachings of Ekhart, except James uses different wording and and gives some background to the origins of humanity which fall into line with a lot of the conspiracy info.

What is told here, in my opinion, is either true or another facet of the infinite imagination. Either way, it is interesting.

http://www.projectcamelot.org/james_wingmakers_sovereign_integral.html

http://www.wingmakers.com/index.html

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posted December 21, 2008 09:27 PM         

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I replied here too http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/003647.html
OK...first and foremost,
it looks like just another new age money making scheme.
I looked at it all.
A little, of what he said is on track, but warped, and he uses alot of double talk trying to sound wise and or mysterious,
so I wonder what his true agenda is.
Something is wrong.
He talks too much.
He uses trendy nomers.
I do not trust him nor his channeler.
Also his info is pre 1999 and in my opinion is highly suspect.
Additionaly, it is disturbing that the illustration he uses is a highly anthropromorphisized image of a "P" style "angel/guide".

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posted December 21, 2008 09:32 PM         

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I don't now.....I do agree that he could have used much better wording than he did....beauty in simplicity.....as far as I could tell the stuff on the websites was all available for free except the paintings.

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posted December 21, 2008 09:32 PM         

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What he said about the greys didn't sound right though.

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posted December 22, 2008 01:19 PM         

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I have some ideas for a sort of critical bit of feedback on some of the ideas put forward in the interview....not enough energy to do it at the moment though.

For example, even though it appears to be a group that wants to offer information freely, there is some evidence of ego. There are all kinds of "new-age" people with various kinds of messiah complexes....not that there's anything wrong with wanting to help others, certainly not. But it is a rocky, foggy road when it comes to deciphering that which is fact and that which is self-deluded fantasy! (Or does it matter?) Hmmm.

Just curious, Lexx. What part of the picture appears Plaeidian to you?

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posted December 22, 2008 01:56 PM         

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr26dPpIzSg&feature=PlayList&p=C487A2240A7859E9&index=0

Freaky!

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posted December 22, 2008 02:14 PM         

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Those books are so full of brainwashing and convolutions and lies. And alot of utter nonsense. The last book it becomes clear they wanted us for their own agenda...and all the stuff about helping us is a lie. All they say is a lie.
The later books contradict totally the first.
Creeeeeeepy and misleading to say the least.

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Just curious, Lexx. What part of the picture appears Plaeidian to you?

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The electric blue and the "angelic symbology of the "wings". There was no plural Pleiadesians any longer, but a one light/energy being once they got to the Hyades and Pleiades long ago. Anything of a plural nature and or humanoid/angelic nature was their minions in false guises of guides, master, angels, and so forth. Mind illusions to deceive and glamour and bedazzle naive humans.My advice...do not buy into any of the business of Pleiadesians or their converts messages which abound on the net and books...

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posted December 22, 2008 03:15 PM         

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The later books contradict totally the first.

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Interesting. Could you give me the gist of how this is so? (Just briefly, I know I ask a lot of questions).

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posted December 22, 2008 03:25 PM         

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Interesting. Could you give me the gist of how this is so? (Just briefly, I know I ask a lot of questions).

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I will have to dig out of storage my copies.
In brief....they later in supposed channeled messages...admitted to having repeatedly lied to us to get our attention. They admit they were/are the ones who hurt ancient and early mankind...and worse things, from genetic tampering to posing as gods and angels.
They admit they needed us and did and would do whatever it took to get us to help (ie; serve them, let them use us....)them take over. Then they try to play the pity them card....

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