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Mblake81
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posted August 17, 2011 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
-The Emerald Table of Hermes-

"True, without error, certain and most true: that which is above is as that which is below, and that which is below is as that which is above, to perform the miracles of the One Thing.

And as all things were from One, by the meditation of One, so from this One Thing come all things by adaptation. Its father is the Sun, its mother is the Moon, the wind carried it in its belly, the nurse thereof is the Earth.

It is the father of all perfection and the consummation of the whole world. Its power is integral if it be turned to Earth.

Thou shalt separate the Earth from the Fire, the subtle from the coarse, gently and with much ingenuity. It ascends from Earth to heaven and descends again to Earth, and receives the power of the superiors and the inferiors.

Thus thou hast the glory of the whole world; therefore let all obscurity flee before thee. This is the strong fortitude of all fortitude, overcoming every subtle and penetrating every solid thing. Thus the world was created. Hence are all wonderful adaptations, of which this is the manner.

Therefore am I called Hermes the Thrice Great, having the three parts of the philosophy of the whole world. That is finished which I have to say concerning the operation of the Sun."


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posted August 22, 2011 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice thread, & good timing. I made contact with Hermes last month & he's been on my mind ever since...

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posted August 22, 2011 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Agent_009:
Nice thread, & good timing. I made contact with Hermes last month & he's been on my mind ever since...

Any first hand inputs on this one if you care to share?

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posted August 22, 2011 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ABCD,

It was a whole learning process for the last half year. Bits & pieces learnt or given to me (via Hermes), which I'm still trying to piece together. So it's somewhat difficult for me to transcribe into words yet. Let me think about it... =)

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posted August 24, 2011 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mblake have you finally found what you are looking for?It was of course your souls urge that led you to this.
How are you going manifest this kundalini energy in your life as you seem to have it as an indicator in the mayan signs.
Have you thought about it?
What is the next likely step from here....?

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posted August 24, 2011 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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mblake have you finally found what you are looking for?It was of course your souls urge that lead you to this.
How are you going manifest this kundalini energy in your life as you seem to have it as an indicator in the mayan signs.
Have you thought about it?
What is the next likely step from here....?

Nevermind the mayan sign, thought about editing it. And I did.

As for your question, that is something time will tell me because right now I don't know.

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have you finally found what you are looking for?

Just something interesting along the way, still looking for the needle in the haystack.

I see myself having one of those forehead slap moments: "The whole time it was that?!" The kind that upset a person to the point they feel like vomiting.


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posted August 25, 2011 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH really?
Looking for a needle in the haystack?!After coming this far, is like fooling yourself. Coz you've found the key to the Gates of Heaven.

"Men who know themselves are
no longer fools. They stand on the
threshold of the door of Wisdom."

You are almost there!Wait...are you still looking for REAL diamonds?
Probably a "diamond in a haystack" to be worn as a ring to adorn your finger.

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posted August 25, 2011 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rajji:
OH really?
Looking for a needle in the haystack?!After coming this far, is like fooling yourself. Coz you've found the key to the Gates of Heaven.

I'm just pushing along.

quote:
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You are almost there!Wait...are you still looking for REAL diamonds?
Probably a "diamond in a haystack" to be worn as a ring to adorn your finger.

I don't wear rings. No, I said needle as a metaphor. I have had zero notion that anything is finished and can be set aside.

No, I am not anywhere close nor am I interested in letting myself entertain such ideas. Those beliefs only lead me down dark hallways lined with cold malicious intents.

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posted August 25, 2011 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There you go!
I used "Diamond in a Haystack" as a metaphor too-- its almost impossible to find... and when you find it its almost impossible to give it up!

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posted August 25, 2011 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There you go!
I used "Diamond in a Haystack" as a metaphor too-- its almost impossible to find... and when you find it its almost impossible to give it up!

I might be able to say that one day, but not right now.

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After coming this far, is like fooling yourself.

Wouldn't be the first time.

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posted August 25, 2011 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://web-us.com/brain/LRBrain.html

In general the left and right hemispheres of your brain process information in different ways. We tend to process information using our dominant side. However, the learning and thinking process is enhanced when both side of the brain participate in a balanced manner. This means strengthening your less dominate hemisphere of the brain. Pay attention to your less dominant style so that you can learn how to improve it.

Reality-Based Vs. Fantasy-Oriented Processing

The left side of the brain deals with things the way they are-with reality. When left brain students are affected by the environment, they usually adjust to it. Not so with right brain students. They try to change the environment! Left brain people want to know the rules and follow them. In fact, if there are no rules for situations, they will probably make up rules to follow! Left brain students know the consequences of not turning in papers on time or of failing a test. But right brain students are sometimes not aware that there is anything wrong. So, if you are right brain, make sure you constantly ask for feedback and reality checks. It's too late the day before finals to ask if you can do extra credit. Keep a careful record of your assignments and tests. Visit with your professor routinely. While this fantasy orientation may seem a disadvantage, in some cases it is an advantage. The right brain student is creative. In order to learn about the digestive system, you may decide to "become a piece of food! And since emotion is processed on the right side of the brain, you will probably remember well anything you become emotionally involved in as you are trying to learn.


"You can't play in the middle of the road if you haven't seen the far curb"

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posted August 25, 2011 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://kundalini.se/eng/fallgrop.html

"To be able to grasp the fantasies that, so to speak, from the underground set me in motion, I had to let myself sink down into them. Not only did this go against the grain, but it also filled me with pure agony. I feared loosing my self control and becoming a prey to the unconscious, and what this meant I knew, as a psychiatrist, only too well.

"A short time before this experience, I had written down a fantasy of how the soul had left me. The soul, anima (animus by women) mediates the relation to the unconscious. To a certain extent this also means a relation to the "collective of the dead", because the unconscious corresponds to the mythical kingdom of death, the land of the ancestors. If, then, one has a fantasy where the soul takes off, this means that it has submerged into the unconscious, or 'the land of the dead'... From that day, the dead have become more and more clear to me, like voices from the unanswered, the unsolved and unmanifested; for since the questions and demands that my destiny demanded answers for, did not come from the outer world, they came precisely from the inner world. In this way these conversations with the dead were a kind of prelude to everything concering the unconscious which I would inform the age in which I lived; a kind of pattern of order and interpretation of the general contents of the unconscious...My science was my means and my only possibility to free myself from this chaos. Otherwise the material would stick to me as burdocks and marsh plants... Sometimes the contents of the unconscious brought me close to loosing my senses and reason."

-Carl Jung

"It is, then, the brain that must be able to endure an enormous pressure."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw1DjsbJcIU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8CWxphBau8

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posted August 25, 2011 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jung has written a psychological comment to the "Tibetan Book of the Dead". He considers the text to be a "process of initiation" - if one reads the book in reversed order, from the end to the beginning. When he comes to the "Chönyid-state", which he means is equal to a deliberately triggered psychosis, Jung writes:

"One often hears and reads about the dangers of Yoga, particularly of the ill-reputed Kundalini Yoga. The deliberately induced psychotic state, which in certain unstable individuals might easily lead to a real psychosis, is a danger that needs to be taken very seriously indeed. These things really are dangerous and ought not to be meddled with in our typically Western way. It is a meddling with Fate, which strikes at the very roots of human existence and can let loose a flood of sufferings of which no sane person ever dreamed. These sufferings correspond to the hellish torments of the chönyid state... "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardo_Thodol

The Liberation Through Hearing During The Intermediate State (Tibetan: bardo "liminality"; thodol as "liberation"), sometimes translated as Liberation Through Hearing or Bardo Thodol is a funerary text. It is often referred to in the West by the more casual title, Tibetan Book of the Dead, a name which draws a parallel with the ancient Egyptian Book of the Dead, another funerary text.

The Tibetan text describes, and is intended to guide one through, the experiences that the consciousness has after death, during the interval between death and the next rebirth. This interval is known in Tibetan as the bardo. The text also includes chapters on the signs of death, and rituals to undertake when death is closing in, or has taken place. It is the most internationally famous and widespread work of Tibetan Nyingma literature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardo

Used loosely, the term "bardo" refers to the state of existence intermediate between two lives on earth. According to Tibetan tradition, after death and before one's next birth, when one's consciousness is not connected with a physical body, one experiences a variety of phenomena. These usually follow a particular sequence of degeneration from, just after death, the clearest experiences of reality of which one is spiritually capable, and then proceeding to terrifying hallucinations that arise from the impulses of one's previous unskillful actions. For the prepared and appropriately trained individuals the bardo offers a state of great opportunity for liberation, since transcendental insight may arise with the direct experience of reality, while for others it can become a place of danger as the karmically created hallucinations can impel one into a less than desirable rebirth.

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posted August 26, 2011 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ABCD,

It was a whole learning process for the last half year. Bits & pieces learnt or given to me (via Hermes), which I'm still trying to piece together. So it's somewhat difficult for me to transcribe into words yet. Let me think about it... =)


OK. Take your time and thanks for responding.

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posted August 28, 2011 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good Stuff!

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posted August 30, 2011 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ABCD,

In a nutshell, these past couple of months (1/2yr),...I've been going through a pretty difficult transition in just about every aspect of my life. Astrologically, I am going through some rough transits, since most of my planets are in cardinal signs.

Sure we've all read about the, "Laws of Attraction/Manifestation/Hermetics," etc... However(over this period), I've come to realize that understanding it logically & really feeling/living it's essence is entirely different. This is when Hermes started appearing to me offering guidance, like a wake up call. He wanted me to really understand how to physically, "manifest."

It was also at this same time, a child hood memory came back to me. When I was in elementary school, I used to read lots of greek mythology. I suddenly recalled, as a child I had a deep fascination with Hermes & Athena. I loved all the myths, but for some reason the other "gods," didnt inspire me.

I started to wonder perhaps I had, in a past life studied the Hermetic Laws before. Perhaps, I even knew Hermes??

The more I experienced his presence, sure enough, the flood gates opened. Indeed, I had once known him. A lifetime in Atlantis, where I had lived in a temple ashram...led & taught by him.

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posted August 31, 2011 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I watched these for the first time this morning. The video that talked about synchronicity made me burst with laughter in a positive way, then the rest of the videos are the same things that I have been rambling on about since I started talking here.

Alchemy

John Anthony West, Carl Jung and Terrance McKenna are in these, they all talked about this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ8TNCYtTV4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcbBQfaQ42A&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa7Brr3ta80&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAmq9LrwVzE&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwGDSeOBDPA&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEqS9ZkrCkA&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Wk6EXiIcM&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akffQWrFSAc&feature=relmfu

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posted August 31, 2011 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Agent_009 Good for you! I think it must be very relieving to have him around to guide.

@MBlake this thread is going to take a good time to go through. I notice you added more links.

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posted September 01, 2011 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigredo

Nigredo

Nigredo, or blackness, in alchemy means putrefaction or decomposition. The alchemists believed that as a first step in the pathway to the philosopher's stone all alchemical ingredients had to be cleansed and cooked extensively to a uniform black matter.

In analytical psychology, the term became a metaphor 'for the dark night of the soul, when an individual confronts the shadow within.

For Carl Jung, 'the rediscovery of the principles of alchemy came to be an important part of my work as a pioneer of psychology'. As a student of alchemy, he (and his followers) 'compared the "black work" of the alchemists (the nigredo) with the often highly critical involvement experienced by the ego, until it accepts the new equilibrium brought about by the creation of the self'. Jungians interpreted nigredo in two main psychological senses.

The first represented on the one hand a subject's initial state of undifferentiated unawareness: 'the first nigredo, that of the unio naturalis, is an objective state, visible from the outside only...an unconscious state of non-differentiation between self and object, consciousness and the unconscious'.Here the subject is '"too conscious"...in reality unconscious of the unconscious; i.e. the connection with the instincts'

In the second sense, 'the nigredo of the process of individuation, It is a subjectively experienced process brought about by the subject's painful, growing awareness of his shadow aspects'. It could be described as a moment of maximum despair, that is a prerequisite to personal development. As individuation unfolds, so 'confrontation with the shadow produces at first a dead balance, a standstill that hampers moral decisions and makes convictions ineffective or even impossible...nigredo, tenebrositas, chaos, melancholia'. Here is 'the darkest time, the time of despair, disillusionment, envious attacks; the time when Eros and Superego are at daggers drawn, and there seems no way forward...nigredo, the blackening'.

Only subsequently would come 'an enantiodromia: the nigredo gives way to the albedo...the ever deepening descent into the unconscious suddenly becomes illumination from above'

Further steps of the alchemical opus include such images as albedo (whiteness), citrinitas (yellowness) and rubedo (redness). Jung also found psychological equivalents for many other alchemical concepts, with 'the characterization of analytic work as an opus; the reference to the analytic relationship as a vas, vessel or container; the goal of the analytic process as the coniunctio, or union of conflicting opposites'.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albedo_%28alchemy%29

Albedo

Albedo is one of the four major stages of alchemy; along with nigredo, citrinitas and rubedo. It is a Latinicized term meaning "whiteness" and follows the nigredo stage. Following the harrowing, chaotic nigredo, it is necessary for purification provided by the albedo which is literally referred to as ablutio; the washing away of impurities by aqua vitae.

Psychologist Carl Jung equated the albedo with unconscious contrasexual soul images; the anima in men and animus in women. It is a phase where insight into shadow projections are realized, and inflated ego and unneeded conceptualizations are removed from the psyche.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrinitas

Citrinitas

Citrinitas is a term given by 15th- and 16th-century alchemists to "yellowness." It was one of the four major stages of the alchemical opus. In alchemical philosophy, citrinitas stood for the dawning of the "solar light" inherent in one's being, and that the reflective "lunar or soul light" was no longer necessary. The other three alchemical stages were nigredo (blackness), albedo (whiteness), and rubedo (redness).

Psychologist Carl Jung is credited with interpreting the pseudo-scientific alchemical process as analogous to modern-day psychoanalysis. In the Jungian archetypal schema, nigredo is the Shadow; albedo refers to the anima and animus (contrasexual soul images); citrinitas is the wise old man (or woman) archetype; and rubedo is the Self archetype which has achieved wholeness.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubedo

Rubedo

Rubedo is a Latin word meaning "redness" that was adopted by alchemists to define the fourth and final major stage in the Magnum Opus. Both gold, and the philosopher's stone were associated with the color red, as rubedo signalled alchemical success, and the end of the great work. The three alchemical stages preceding rubedo were nigredo (blackness) which represented putrefication and spiritual death, albedo (whiteness) which represented purification, and thirdly citrinitas (yellowness); the solar dawn or awakening. Rubedo is also known by the Greek word, Iosis.

The symbols used in alchemical writing and art to represent this red stage can include blood, a phoenix, a rose, a crowned king, or a figure wearing red clothes. Countless sources give mention to a reddening process. The seventeenth dictum of the 12th century Turba Philosophorum is one example:

"O Turba of Philosophers and disciples, now hast thou spoken about making into white, but it yet remains to treat concerning the reddening! Know, all ye seekers after this Art, that unless ye whiten, ye cannot make red, because the two natures are nothing other than red and white. Whiten, therefore, the red, and redden the white!"

In the framework of psychological development (especially followers of Jungian psychology) these four alchemical steps are be taken as analogous to the process of attaining individuation: In an archetypal schema, rubedo would represent the Self archetype, and would be the culmination of the four stages. The Self manifests itself in "wholeness," a point in which a person discovers his or her true nature.

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