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Linda Jones
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posted July 15, 2013 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your comments about objectifying and being objectified bring to mind a few recent conversations I’ve had with different men—

Example 1:

He: I’ll tell you how men think. Within the first few seconds of meeting or seeing a woman, a man asks himself the question … will he or won’t he?

Me: Will he or won’t he what?

He: Do her.

Me: (Cringing at that expression because I can’t stand it). Really???

He: Yep. And any man who tells you otherwise is lying.

Me: Well, carrying that out would require her consent, I hope. Does it matter to the guy that the woman may or may not spare him a second glance?

He: Nope.

Me: So the man could be an over weight, pot bellied, beer-guzzler who routinely burps loudly, and huffs and puffs when climbing the three steps in his front porch …but he’ll still think the same?

He: Yep.

Note to women: We need to take a page from this level of self-confidence. LOL Such a man will look at himself in the mirror and be pleased with what he sees, while a drop dead gorgeous woman will look at herself in the mirror and pick out flaws that only she can see. I’m beginning to suspect the confidence must come from the water that men drink.
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Example 2:

Me: I’m thinking of starting a business on the side. Any ideas?

He: Why don’t you open a massage parlor? With your looks you’d mint money.

Me: (Going red in the face at this blatant slight). You do realize you just insulted me, don’t you?

He: (Blinking). No I didn’t. I complimented you on the way you look.

Me: By saying I look good enough to start a brothel? What’s wrong with you? Is that the best compliment you can give a woman … that she’d make a great prostitute????

He: I didn’t mean it like that.

Me: What if I was to say that you could make good money stripping for women?

He: (With a grin). To be honest, I wouldn’t mind having women ogle at me. The attention would be *cough* uplifting … if you get my drift.

Me: (Realizing I’d walked into that one, I did some quick thinking). Stripping for men then. What if I said you’d make good money stripping for men?

He: I wouldn’t like that.

Me: That’s how I felt after your comment.

He: Okay. Sorry.

Me: When I asked you about starting a business, I meant something that would require me to use my intellect.

He: (Really thinking hard). Well … you could open a cup cake business … something involving baking. You women are good at that.

Me: (Realizing that a crow bar couldn’t pry open this mind). Are you seeing someone special?

He: No. Why?

Me: I think I know the name of your future wife.

He: (Looking pleased for some reason). Oh yea? What?

Me: June Cleaver.
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Example 3:

He: A man’s gotta sow his seed. That’s what a man does. Women need to understand that. Monogamy is unnatural.

Me: (Holding in my nausea that this “seed sowing” comment usually brings). Does it matter that Nature has invested effort, creative energy, and time …hundreds of thousands of years … to decrease the size of your tailbone and increase the size of your brain … the frontal lobe in particular … so that you now have the largest forehead among primates? If you were only good for “seed sowing”, don’t you think it would have been far easier to just leave you at the level of other animals?

He: (Shrugs).

Me: (Trying another tactic). What do you think is the most important difference between humans and other animals?

He: We’re more civilized.

Me: (With a laugh). Well, I think the jury’s still out on that since the other animals would definitely beg to differ. Because humans are the only ones in the entire animal kingdom who use sex as a weapon to use, manipulate, exploit, betray, and hurt each other. So no, I don’t think we’re more civilized just because we clothe our physical nakedness.

(Continuing I say) I think the main difference is that as humans, we have greater divinity in us. Animals have divinity too … but humans have more of it. So we can be godlier in our actions … more loving … and capable of easing each other’s suffering.

He: You’re not going to get all philosophical on me now are you?

??????

It suddenly hit me that perhaps conversation is over rated! This may seem like I was having an epiphany. Except, in reality … for a Mercury-in-Gemini brain … it felt more like having a stroke!

And I can assure you these men are all well educated, with progressive careers. Another example of a similar attitude is that of the 23 year old professional tennis player who said in an interview that he doesn’t understand why women tennis players (pros) should get paid the same as men, seeing that men work so much harder at their games!

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ True meditation is the correction and lifting of our thoughts … from fear, doubt, and insecurity to love, trust, and faith.

~ moi ~

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Linda Jones
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posted July 15, 2013 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“I doubt I can ever give most men what they want.” No woman on God’s green earth could. The reason for this is that darn objectifying … a topic I’ve only recently formed comprehensive opinions on, after speaking to different men (the above conversations are examples. I’ve known what it means … just never comprehended it fully before). The thing is, that women cannot get too far with objectifying because nature has made them to desire bonding, which automatically follows physical intimacy (with the release of bonding hormones like oxytocin, etc.).

However, men can compartmentalize their emotions much more easily and so can continue to have mindless sex (despite the release of bonding hormones) with no apparent drawback (except a hit to their self-esteem which they cover up with their egos … and women are expected to coddle this famous fragile male ego).

This is such a circular situation … men compartmentalizing their feelings in order to have mindless sex, and covering up the resulting hits to their self-esteem by their ego, which women are expected to coddle … that there’s no intelligent end to it … it’s like watching a dog chasing it’s own tail … the one watching gets exhausted too, and not just the dog.

Objectifying of women by men (and same sex members among homosexuals) is the root of this kaliyuga. The false sense of empowerment that comes from objectifying, gives rise to prey-predator relationships that can be very, very painful, and create very heavy karma. The disrespect and dehumanizing that an objectifying mindset brings is the basic cause of society’s problems today, I feel. And it springs from fear. Humans go back and forth between two principle states of mind … love and fear. Every thought, word, and action that does not arise from love, comes from fear.

Sri Ramakrishna said that, “He who has realized God does not look upon a woman with the eye of lust; so he is not afraid of her. He perceives clearly that women are but so many aspects of the Divine Mother. He worships them all as the Mother Herself.”

I think it is fear that drives men to objectify, repress, and control women (we try to control that which we fear). But ultimately this fear is not so much of women as much as it is of what women represent … all that is feminine … i.e., love. So femininity (love) is to be thought of as weak and worthy of rejection. In other words … men who objectify are afraid of love (it is not “manly” to love) because they’ve not yet tapped into their own feminine power, and learned to revere their own Kundalini Shakti.

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ True meditation is the correction and lifting of our thoughts … from fear, doubt, and insecurity to love, trust, and faith.

~ moi ~

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Linda Jones
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posted July 15, 2013 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’ve recently concluded (again from conversations with men) that what fuels this unfortunate mindset is the multi-billion dollar porn industry, which has infiltrated mainstream media and found its way into our homes, living rooms, and bedrooms through TV, movies, videos, video games, newspapers, magazines, billboards … every facet of our lives is touched by porn today. So much so that men actually believe that the ability to have sex is what defines a man … and that women are the means (or objects) to achieve that definition.

What is really concerning is that the truth is buried underneath the rubbish that is fed to society today … rubbish that couldn’t be farther from the truth.

Here’s some actual truth that men (and a lot of women) seem to be unaware of—

-->1) Fact: The #1 thing men want is … no, not sex, but … low frustration (women are better at handling frustration).

-->2) Fact: The number #1 thing women want is to bond. Hence they are better at relationships (or at relating to others) than men. So psychologists advise men to listen to women about how to relate.

-->3) The #2 thing men want is to bond.

-->4) The #3 thing that both men and women want is love and sex.

What I don’t understand is why there’s such a ho-ha made about the whole issue of sex … I mean no one’s died yet not having had sex, have they? Look at Pope John Paul II, who was as saintly as they make ‘em … with a tremendous spiritual aura about him (I was compelled to read about him as soon as I sensed his energy in a photograph). When he passed on, he was in his 80s, and it wasn’t from lack of sex. Really … the way people go on about sex, it’s as though that is the only thing that drives us, when again the truth is concealed in lesser-known studies—

For example, the fact is that when a relationship is overall happy and free from major problems, sex assumes 10% importance in that relationship. But when a relationship is fraught with problems, sex assumes 90% importance.

In a study done on heterosexual couples in their 30s, it was found that when both partners were taught (through therapy) to trust each other fully, the number of times they had sex declined voluntarily, with a simultaneous increase in greater fulfillment with each other due to greater emotional intimacy. Prior to therapy, each couple shared less emotional intimacy, with one or the other partner dissatisfied with the amount of sex he/she was having.

Here’s another gross misconception—about commitment-phobic men somehow not wanting to settle down because they have greater sex drives and therefore a greater need to “sow their seeds”. The truth is that such men fear emotional intimacy and that any woman in touch with herself emotionally, could give the commitment-phobic guy a run for his money regarding sex drive. Fear of commitment (and there are varying degrees of it) leads to insecurities, which are then covered up by the ego by buying into the whole “seed-sowing” concept—one that is rubbish as far as I’m concerned—a concept that is fed even more by the porn industry.

Here’s another important fact—

Young girls automatically get pushed by Nature to become women and mothers, through menstruation and birthing. They have no choice in the matter. So mentally, emotionally, psychologically, and physiologically, the female is taught by Mother Nature to fulfill her role as a woman and mother. However there’s no similar blueprint for the male, as nature does not thrust him into becoming a man (the ability to have sex does not count). Therefore a man has to learn to become a man and father. He can be helped in this process if he has good role models. If not, he most likely becomes society’s burden, creating pain for others and himself. If men allow the porn industry to dictate the lessons of how to become men … well then we have a disaster on our hands, don’t we?

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ True meditation is the correction and lifting of our thoughts … from fear, doubt, and insecurity to love, trust, and faith.

~ moi ~

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Linda Jones
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posted July 15, 2013 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So how can we live more satisfied lives through happier relationships?

First, imo, the greatest gift parents can give their children (especially boys) is to teach them to face and handle emotional pain, instead of fearing it. All emotional issues begin with the denial and repression of emotional pain due to fearing it.

As for those who are already adults, the biggest protection we can have against the problems of ego is to learn to insulate our minds from fear. I think true meditation is the correction and lifting of our thoughts … from fear, doubt, and insecurity to love, trust, and faith. Hmm … I think I’ll add this to my signature, lol.

What can women do to lessen their own suffering?

1—support other women instead of slamming them. Notice how men don’t typically slam each other?

2—raise the bar for acceptable behavior from men and prepare to walk away from a man rather than accept disrespect. If ALL women raised the bar across the board, men would be compelled to behave better wouldn’t they?

3—work on your self-esteem so that no man can manipulate you using your insecurities.

4—teach sons to respect women when they are little boys.

5—stay away from prey-predator relationships because no one is the predator in them. Both are prey … to their own ego.

6—realize that, at the end of the day, respect from a man is better than having his warm body next to you at night … because respect is going to be far more satisfying … well unless you can have both, lol, respect and the warm body.

7—use your Kundalini Shakti to empower and strengthen yourself. There is an incomparable strength that comes from inner knowledge and awareness. I’m beginning to experience this with my Shakti. The word Shakti when written with a capital S means Divine Power. This is the only AUTHENTIC Power that exists.

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ True meditation is the correction and lifting of our thoughts … from fear, doubt, and insecurity to love, trust, and faith.

~ moi ~

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Linda Jones
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posted July 15, 2013 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“But I digress. I'm rambling .” You’re not rambling. I read your entire post with interest as you’ve condensed so much in such few words. I like the way you think.

“I kind of personally feel like devotion is the path of slaughter, and my job is to love God and be a dog that is eternally beaten for the sake of some story,” Love your choice of words here! They remind me of what Sri Ramakrishna said … that of the several different ways to devote ourselves to God, one is the attitude of a servant who sees God as the Master. So far I’m finding it easiest to see myself as the child with God as the Mother/Father.

“I am not entirely sure why I can't just run to the hills .” Lol I’ve wondered that myself. But since most karma is connected with relationships, we may as well stay on in the day-to-day world and work out our karma, sooner rather than later. Sometimes I think that even God would find it difficult to hold it together if He were to try and live in today’s world, and what’s more, I think He knows it. Perhaps that’s why He’s willing to cut us breaks every single day.

“… but you know, then I realized, we're just rotting sacks of flesh.” Yes. Sri Ramakrishna said that the way to overcome lust is to mentally break down the body into skin, bones, and blood and then see how attractive we find these individual components.

“I just would rather be married to god.” I can relate. You know I threw my Mom in a tizzy, lol, when I announced (at the age of 11) that I wanted to become a nun. I think she was secretly relieved when I began to get asked out on dates at 15. But she continued to be a mama bear, especially when I began receiving marriage proposals, because obviously I was too young. I think it must have been very nerve wracking for her to walk the fine line between turning my interest toward boys (so that I wouldn’t join a convent) … but not enough that I might end up marrying one of them!

“It's like that. You meet this wonderful soulmate and there's this powerful attraction, but you speak completely different languages, and it can be so frustrating.” Interesting isn’t it? That we’ve invented so many languages to talk to each other that we can’t do it any more.

“They are more in love with maya and their fears and attachments than they will ever be in love with you.” Yes, such people are stuck in their lower 3 chakras, as I’d mentioned earlier, so it’s difficult to relate to them. If everyone spoke the language of love … from the level of the Heart Chakra … we’d all find it much easier to live in truth … the heart being the temple where all truth resides.

“I'm not really sure how much I can help you.” Don’t worry, you’re helping just by sharing your thoughts on a variety of topics (whenever you like, no pressure). For me, this is a wonderful conversation. My apologies again, for writing so much.

This time also I have 2 questions—

-->1) If you wouldn’t mind saying who Amma is?

-->2) Do you think it’s ok to select some mantras from the web and chant them after learning to do them correctly? For example, I came across a mantra for Lord Saturn that I’d like to chant. There are 8 people I know who are currently going through hard Saturn transits and I’d like to do this mantra for them every Saturday (Saturn’s Day). Or is it still advisable to wait for a guru to hand it down to me?

Thanks again, Baccha. I’ll be back to write more of my experiences, if you can handle my wordiness. I don’t expect anyone else to stay tuned in to the torture, lol.

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ True meditation is the correction and lifting of our thoughts … from fear, doubt, and insecurity to love, trust, and faith.

~ moi ~

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posted July 15, 2013 04:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda,

You are doing us a great service by writing at length on your experiences and sharing your thoughts on so many interesting topics. Really enjoy reading your posts (the last few have been so amusing!). Thank you.

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posted July 15, 2013 09:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, she's really entertaining and funny. I keep wanting to ask her if she's leo influenced.

I do mantras sometimes. Many are perfectly fine to use. It's just a gamble and I'm not sure I want to play around with the karma. I'm personally fond of reading The Greatness of Saturn as a sadhana to appease Saturn, and it's very valuable from an astrological position, or for developing compassion and spiritual insight. http://www.amazon.com/The-G reatness-Saturn-Therapeutic-Myth/dp/0940985624/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1373938737&sr=8-1&keywords=the+greatness+of+saturn

I don't mean to be so cold (when I was a kid I used to cover myself in white blankets and proclaim myself the ice queen..). I'm dealing with an illness that affects my cognition and memory as well as my bouyancy, and you're just so flipping bouyant, I'm afraid I'll affect you. I'm also trying to solidify things spiritually, and I hate when I say something too early. Don't worry. Today I got into a dialectical discussion with the Christian son of a doctorate of theology, and he thought I was really smart and we chatted a long time before I finally asked if we'd finished opening my account after having spent so long talking about sociological trends in the church and eschatology alongside metaphysics of mind and kenosis haha. I also hear everyone's going to think I'm a genius when I am better, and I'll go back to converting people left and right like I used to when kundalini was crazy and my health was a little better. Btw, I have found out hair loss is related to food intolerance, and adrenal fatigue (both of which are becoming increasingly common and not well diagnosed or recognized by allopathic medicine.. and exacerbate the other ).

Amma is purportedly the incarnation of the divine mother. I personally get weird about her selling stuff everywhere she goes, but she's very compassionate and does phenomenal works for the good of humanity. She comes to tour the United States once a year and has an ashram in India.

Tesla was also celibate his entire life and was the greatest inventor of our age (lived to be 86? at 6'6". http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla

Some men do slam other guys, but it may just have been a competing thing because I was there. I think your beautiful looks attract the wrong kind of men. I've had better luck with men and bad luck with women. Many guys I've been close to have been emotionally deep and sensitive. Usually they get along with women best where I get along with men. Ironically, my most attractive boyfriend was the one I ended up liking the least.

Random, but the esotericism of Radha and Krishna is that they are dual incarnations. Krishna can't be with his twin flame (sita or Lakshmi) due to the curse of Durvasa. http://www.dollsofindia.com/library/radhakrishna/

Oddly enough I had a dream the night you posted about IQ (I'm not really close to him this life), but he was in a trash heap with a bunch of other people trying to catch this criminal that was making it dangerous for people to be there and got shot. I can't remember all of it, but I was thinking in the dream it was before I had posted on this forum. I kept worrying about his wound..

I'll respond more to this later..

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Originally posted by baccha:

Amma is purportedly the incarnation of the divine mother. I personally get weird about her selling stuff everywhere she goes, but she's very compassionate and does phenomenal works for the good of humanity. She comes to tour the United States once a year and has an ashram in India.


Yes, agree with you Baccha. I visited Amma at her ashram in India, having been led to it by a startling synchronicity of events which in themselves suggested that Amma was special indeed. Her hug is a very powerful thing. She is known as the 'hugging mother' and people report all sorts of spiritual experiences when they receive her hug. I personally felt a deep and expanded sense of peace and contentment. I was later told by a psychic that Amma had shared some of her healing ability with me to use to benefit others in turn.

I saw her again in the UK and was a little put off by what appeared to me as the Amma circus -a very well organised operation to collect money for her various charitable causes. So, our connection was short and perhaps useful in ways that I have yet to realise.

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I hope I didn't kill this thread.

Linda, haven't heard from you for a while.

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posted August 16, 2013 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seruryu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Linda...it's so refreshing to hear your stories and experiences and I am looking forward to more of your writings. You're so lucky to have been communicating with the Divine Mother as I am one of Her baktha. I have my own experiences too but for now, I am not sure of it as it is too obscure. Nevertheless, I enjoyed reading your postings and am one of those who are awaiting your new writings.

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posted September 05, 2013 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Linda,

You are doing us a great service by writing at length on your experiences and sharing your thoughts on so many interesting topics. Really enjoy reading your posts (the last few have been so amusing!). Thank you.


Thank you Astrokeen. Your words "great service" mean a lot to me. And no you haven't killed the thread. I've just been incredibly busy. My apologies for the intermittent long absences. Please bear with me. This is essentially the only thread I can make it to ... barely sometimes But with this one I don't want to multitask, 'cause it deserves my full attention, I feel.

And thank you for referring to Amma as the Hugging Mother because that is how I've heard of her. So you saved my having to ask Baccha another question, lol. I've seen her on TV. She exudes incredible warmth ... very high energy, imo.

I guess it's understandable that her people sell some of the Ashram stuff, possibly as a way to pay for her trips to the US, organize and coordinate the events, pay associated fees, etc.

But I'm sure there are also hangers-on who try to milk her inherent gift for their own material gain. She may or may not be aware of the full extent of the financial wheelings and dealings. She seems very simple to me ... someone who has an incredible gift but with not much interest in the financial aspect of things. Anyway, just my 2 cents
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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ True meditation is the correction and lifting of our thoughts … from fear, doubt, and insecurity to love, trust, and faith.

~ moi ~

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posted September 05, 2013 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by seruryu:
Hi Linda...it's so refreshing to hear your stories and experiences and I am looking forward to more of your writings. You're so lucky to have been communicating with the Divine Mother as I am one of Her baktha. I have my own experiences too but for now, I am not sure of it as it is too obscure. Nevertheless, I enjoyed reading your postings and am one of those who are awaiting your new writings.

Thank you, Seruryu. And welcome aboard the Bhakta train!

"I have my own experiences too but for now, I am not sure of it as it is too obscure." Actually I too didn't know until a year ago. It was Taineberry who pointed me in the right direction by doing a very intuitive interpretation of one of my dreams (I will always be incredibly grateful to Taineberry). It was then that I became conscious of my connection to the Goddess. And it was after that, that I started this thread and, for the first time, began to understand I was experiencing Kundalini rise.

Here is the thread that first clued me in-- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/002851.html

Since you're just starting out I thought I'd list some links (for you and others) that I've found very helpful in understanding experiences related with the Goddess Shakti (Kundalini)--the order of the links listed is how I read them and it made sense to me. iQ has been my chief source for these (from other threads)--
http://www.alloya.com/texts/dancing%20with%20the%20kundalini.pdf
http://lovebliss.eu/Lovebliss.htm

VERY IMPORTANT--A must read before proceeding--About pitfalls on Kundalini awakening--
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum29/HTML/000172.html
http://www.kundalini.se/eng/fallgrop.html
http://kundalini.se/eng/engkni_1024.html

And here's a link that iQ had pointed out--about foods that are important for someone having Kundalini experiences. I've found it to be very helpful--

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You must also increase the intake of C, E, water soluble Beta Carotene and and the entire B vitamin family because these vitamins assist in efficient neurobiochemistry. Organic Selenium, Magnesium, Zinc and Copper are also needed to replesnih the enyzmes that could take a beating during Kundalini movements.
Himalayan "Shilajit" will help.

This article has a wonderful explanation on the importance of diet during Kundalini Rise: http://www.aypsite.org/304.html


Hope this helps I would also focus on asking the Goddess specific questions when you want clarifications. As you're seeing from my posts, She answers and teaches very lovingly.

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ True meditation is the correction and lifting of our thoughts … from fear, doubt, and insecurity to love, trust, and faith.

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posted September 05, 2013 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Baccha:

"I keep wanting to ask her if she's leo influenced."

Leo effect in my chart is not very strong but I have asteroid Lyon exactly on my Desc, and I attract Leo dominant people (among others) in my life. Interestingly, 3 of them (all older men) have grand crosses with their Leo planets and /or Nodal axis ... which modifies their personalities a bit. But they are all very dear and special because they've taught me important life lessons (from my chronological peers I've learned newer, better, and increasingly more sophisticated ways to waste time, LOL)

But to answer your question, it's my hefty, strong, and sturdy Jupiter that keeps me afloat, lol.

I'm sorry about the health issues you're facing at the moment. Please have unshakable faith in your Shakti. You've been added to the list of people for whom I pray and visualize.

I'll be back to answer the rest of your post as I still have to read the links you posted. You always make me think

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ True meditation is the correction and lifting of our thoughts … from fear, doubt, and insecurity to love, trust, and faith.

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
..... It was Taineberry who pointed me in the right direction by doing a very intuitive interpretation of one of my dreams (I will always be incredibly grateful to Taineberry). It was then that I became conscious of my connection to the Goddess. And it was after that, that I started this thread and, for the first time, began to understand I was experiencing Kundalini rise.

That was a fantastic interpretation by Taineberry. It is great isn't it when the universe brings to you what you need at the appropriate time.

I first came to know of the Kundalini in my teens through reading 'Raja Yoga' by Swami Vivekanand, which was incredible. I have since harboured a wish to experience it in some form or the other in this life time. I may have experienced 0.1% activation about 2 years ago when I started meditating more regularly. It manifested as very pleasant pulsing sensations up my spine which could be felt throughout the day and this lasted for a few months. Or it may have been the case that I became aware of energy flows in the body which had nothing to do with the Kundalini.

A few days ago, I had a very vivid dream of giving birth to a lovely baby girl who began to grow and change soon after. When a few hours old she sat up with the composure of a goddess, very calm, with beautiful all knowing eyes. I posted the dream in the astral realms forum and Love&Light suggested that the child was Shakti which I was giving way to by meditating. That sounded promising!

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Astro Keen, your dream not only sounds promising but (I feel) is also a sure sign of your own Shakti. If faith begins with a conscious encounter with God, then I would include your dream as a definite encounter, which is likely to fuel your own faith. It also shows that things are beginning to come together in response to your own desire to know your Shakti.

I think that a certain amount of preparation of the mind is needed for Kundalini to manifest without harm or pain, although, apart from keeping the mind free from negativity through constant forgiveness, I don’t know what it is specifically. As I mentioned earlier, I don’t meditate (although I guess prayer can be thought of as meditating on the mystery of God), and I’ve been having dreams since I was a child, and Kundalini symptoms as an adult (even when I didn’t know what they were). I would lump all my experiences together as being spiritual and was content with that, as long as I could continue my closeness with God through prayers and conversations (without which I feel lost).

One thing I do know though, and that is, that when the Goddess feels you’re ready, She herself comes knocking on your door, whether or not you’re aware of Kundalini. And She won’t leave you alone until She’s made you conscious of your Shakti. I think this is why She kept appearing in my dreams, in one of them literally standing just outside my door with other children who knocked and even following me from room to room, symbolic of staying close by my side (I wrote about this dream in the other thread you read). But, as it happened, I still didn’t get it, not even after I’d asked Her name and learned it was Uma, which in the dream I knew to be another name for Parvati. Honestly, sometimes I have to be thumped on the head, lol.

Seeing that I needed to have it spelled out, the Goddess then used Taineberry to point it out to me. And now She’s using iQ and Baccha to help clarify things even more. So yes, not only does the Universe (God) bring the necessary things to us when appropriate, but this is yet another example of how She carefully and lovingly weaves different situations together for our benefit.

I’m very happy for your experience and hope you will have many more … dotting this incredible journey of expansion of your consciousness.

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Just a quick reminder for you, Seruryu, and others … do check astrological aspects … as well as geometric patterns … between Vedic asteroids—Siva, Mahakala, Rudra, Shankar, Hara (all names for Lord Shiva) and Kaali, Parvati, Tara (all names for Goddess Parvati). I would check them in connection with Saturn and/or asteroid Karma to see where we might have interference (or ease) with Kundalini awakening due to our karma. Dreams, along with supporting astrology give a more complete picture.

Also check for Kaali/Mercury aspects in synastry … since Kundalini can also be awakened or increased by either meeting someone else, or having intense emotions for another person (as I’ve mentioned, in my case, meeting my TF really shot up my Kundalini, as well as his, in a pretty big way. I began having exactly the same dreams as he, on the same nights, at the same time, etc., … still need to post my first meeting chart with him).

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ True meditation is the correction and lifting of our thoughts … from fear, doubt, and insecurity to love, trust, and faith.

~ moi ~

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Here I’d like to make a case for Kaali/Mercury and Kaali/Hermes aspects as being important in Kundalini rise (haven’t seen much emphasis on this in the asteroids forum). Some thoughts to explain how I understand this (hope it all makes sense )—

iQ, Baccha, please feel free to correct me if I’ve misunderstood something.

Mercury (Greek name—Hermes) is not only the Messenger of Gods and therefore the [b]Communicator of the Knowledge of God … very often through our dreams … but it is also the ruler of our mind.

Brief description and explanation of the mind (consciousness) in simple terms—

The Mind can be roughly divided into the conscious portion (through which we make our day-to-day decisions), and the unconscious portion. The unconscious further consists of a personal unconscious (specific to every individual), and a deeper collective unconscious (a phrase coined by Carl Jung and referring to that portion of the mind common to all of mankind).

[When we speak of consciousness we generally think of it as being ‘contained’ or ‘originating’ in the head. However, consciousness is something that is present wherever there is life. So the entire body has consciousness. In fact the whole world is permeated by consciousness … from the single celled amoeba to multi-celled organisms including plants and animals and humans. Every organ in the human body, and every cell in every organ in the human body is permeated with consciousness. Imo consciousness is the same as energy (life energy) … or the energy we put out].

This collective unconscious is now more commonly believed to be God or the Divinity that is exactly the same in each one of us. It is the part of our mind which holds complete memory of all past lives, among other things, and various levels of awareness leading to the highest level, i.e., the total wisdom, will, and consciousness of God [Although Jung did not go so far as to say that God existed in our unconscious, he did describe himself as “a splinter of the infinite deity”].

The collective unconscious or God is similar to the Christian concept of the Holy Ghost or the Holy Spirit, which resides in us all.

And past lives or Reincarnation correlates with the Christian idea of purgatory (without the actual physical fires of hell)—both the Christian and non Christian concepts emphasize that one has to be purified or purged clean of one’s limitations (sins) … of incorrect focus … which prevent the growth and expansion of one’s consciousness. And until one’s focus is corrected, the need to be reborn as different personalities continues to exist.

The personal unconscious is the connection between our conscious mind and the collective unconscious or God. [The Freudian unconscious of a collection of repressed traumatic experiences in a person’s life is this personal unconscious. So clearly, this can be an area of some conflict within an individual]. When this connection is kept strong by alignment of the conscious with the collective unconscious … either through meditation or prayer, and/or through focus on right action, forgiveness, and compassion toward others … then information flows freely … along with the rise of Kundalini Shakti, which meets with Shiva at the crown. This free, uninterrupted (unblocked) flow of information, coinciding with Kundalini Rise, takes place from the collective unconscious to the conscious part of our mind … via dreams, past life recalls, “knowingness,” etc., … and our awareness expands. With the expansion of our awareness, spiritual growth occurs.

At the highest level of spiritual growth, memory of our true Self is fully restored and awareness expands to its maximum, allowing us to reach Nirvana or Enlightenment, or Buddha-hood, and erasing all ignorance and illusion (Maya).

What is this memory of our true Self? [I referred to it as my “memory bank” in an earlier post when I described my dream about Lord Krishna at age 6].

The Hindu Vedas call this memory Atma Smaranam (Atma=Soul or Self; denotes also the Supreme Soul; Smaranam=remembrance).

Atma Smaranam or memory of our true Self is the same as Ultimate memory, Original memory, or Eternal memory … and it relates to the Truth of the essential Unity of Creation. This means that all belong to the One, not as its parts, but rather as the One. Each one of us is the One. Each one of us is Shakti. Each one of us is Buddha. The word “Buddha” means “the one who woke up”. We are all supposed to wake up … to the Buddha or Christ or the God within us. We are God … not in our physical presence, nor our temporal personality, nor in our ego … but in our deepest being where we are one with the non-dual Absolute [this is why our thoughts are so important … we manifest what we think for ourselves as well as for others].

So, according to the Unity of Creation, we are essentially one with each other as well as with God. [This is considered blasphemy in the ‘normal’ Christian way of thinking, yet it forms the basis of Christian Gnosticism and of the Thomas Gospel (discovered about 50 years ago in Egypt), in which Jesus says, “He who drinks from my mouth will become as I am, and I shall be he.”] The understanding of this principle becomes easier if we identify less with our physical body and more with the Consciousness, of which the physical body is a vehicle. For example … what am I … am I the outer bulb carrying the inner light, or am I the inner light being carried by the bulb, which is a vehicle?

Maya (illusion) blurs the memory of this oneness; it arouses thoughts of separation, difference, self-interest, and rival interest; so that we forget who we truly are … manifestations of Buddha consciousness, Christ consciousness, or God consciousness. The spiritual journey consists of enhancing our spiritual memory … meaning, constantly and repeatedly re-identifying with, and renewing this memory (of oneness) until it becomes firmly and completely lodged in the mind.

At the same time, it is equally important to insulate ourselves during our spiritual progress. So the spiritual journey also consists of identifying each negative impression of fear in the mind and, one by one, de-identifying with it. This detachment and de-identification from fear is achieved through trust, forgiveness, and compassion.

When we make remembering our true Self the goal of prayer, meditation, and our actions, we become steeped in Atma Smaranam (memory of oneness with others and God), and can get firmly established in bhakti or loving devotion, because the aim of devotion is Ananyata or ‘non-another-ness’.

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ True meditation is the correction and lifting of our thoughts … from fear, doubt, and insecurity to love, trust, and faith.

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posted October 06, 2013 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With this as the background, I want to say that if we associate asteroid Kaali with Kundalini, I would think Mercury (and/or asteroid Hermes) would also be connected, since the Crown Chakra of the mind is where Shakti unites with Shiva to make Atma Smaranam (Self-remembrance) complete.

In synastry I think there’s a definite connection between Kaali/Mercury and Kundalini Rise (research threads by Ceridwen along with my input). But now I think that in natal charts too, there may be a connection between Kaali/Mercury (and/or Hermes).

For example, in my own natal, Hermes trines Kaali.

In my TF’s chart, Hermes is opposite Tara (a fierce form of Goddess Parvati).

In our synastry, his Kaali/Samadhi conjunction trines my Mercury, while my Parvati quincunxes his Mercury and my Hermes squares his Tara.

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One other thing … the reason I listed asteroids Parvati and Tara along with Kaali in relation to Kundalini, is from my own experience—a dream I had of Goddess Parvati—here is the dream originally posted in—
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/002851.html

I walked into a room where my TF was seated in a straight-backed chair, without arms. There was no other furniture in the room, which was otherwise quite bare. I entered from behind him so I could initially see only his back. As I approached his chair from behind, I saw that he had a girl child about 5 years old, sitting on his right leg. Her face was turned away from me. Yet somehow I could tell that she was beautiful with a sort of an angelic kind of bright light surrounding her entire body. I thought to myself, “what a beautiful child,” and wondered who she was.

Then out of nowhere there appeared a second identical chair, a little bit behind and a bit to the right side of the other one. I sat down in the chair and didn’t do much else other than continue to absorb the light and beauty of the child from behind my TF’s chair. No word was exchanged between us.

Then, silently my TF turned toward me and handed the child to me by placing her on my right leg. He turned around in his chair to resume his initial position. We both sat silently for a little bit (maybe a few seconds or a few minutes, I don’t know). Initially the child’s face was turned away from me and I could only see her profile. But I was filled with the awe of seeing something so extraordinary and felt completely at peace with no particular desire to do anything.

Then, still seated on my right leg, the child turned her face toward me, and, with the utmost gentleness, placed both her little hands on either side of my face saying twice, “Parvati is coming, Parvati is coming.” The dream ended there, but I knew immediately that this child was herself a personification of the Hindu Goddess Parvati.

Aside from Taineberry’s amazing interpretation on that thread, I have myself since realized that the words spoken by the Divine Child, “Parvati is coming,” were meant to signify my awakening Kundalini. By saying them twice, the Child was referring not only to my Kundalini, but also to my TF’s awakening Kundalini [After meeting, my TF and I unknowingly experienced Kundalini awakening for an extended period, and this dream was meant to make me understand that].

Since in my dream the Goddess referred to our awakening Kundalini as ‘Parvati is coming’, I concluded that, along with Kaali aspects, asteroids Parvati and Tara aspects can also be used to check for the same and, by extension, asteroids Siva, Rudra, Mahakala, Shankar, and Hara can also be used. In my natal almost all of them form some sort of theme and configuration (Star of David, kite, grand trines).

NOTE: I’ve started a thread in Asteroids to share these thoughts with others who frequent that forum more—
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/002174.html

And a second thread to let everyone know that another name for Lord Shiva is Hara. iQ’s research led him to discover that Lord Shiva was worshipped as Hara in ancient India (iQ had shared this with me first; later I read Sri Ramakrishna’s reference to Lord Shiva as Hara)—
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/002173.html

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ True meditation is the correction and lifting of our thoughts … from fear, doubt, and insecurity to love, trust, and faith.

~ moi ~

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A word on dreams—

I think that some dreams are personal and come from the personal unconscious. These can be interpreted by association, i.e., by figuring out the dream’s connection with a personal problem.

Other dreams have a mythic character or theme, like seeing a deity for example. This type would also include one’s own or others’ past life recalls. These dreams come from the collective unconscious or the God or Christ within.

I frequently have a third type of dream … about ongoing issues or situations in other people’s current personal lives. Perhaps these too come from the collective unconscious.
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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ True meditation is the correction and lifting of our thoughts … from fear, doubt, and insecurity to love, trust, and faith.

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posted October 09, 2013 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astro Keen’s dream reminded me of a childhood incident from Buddha’s life—

After leaving home (at age 29) in search of the cause of human suffering, Siddhartha (Buddha) had sought the teachings of two Gurus … but was eventually dissatisfied with both because, despite being an exceptional student, he had not found the answer to his question of why humans suffer. He experienced rarified states of consciousness, but found them to be temporary and more of an escape because he felt that they didn’t bring penetrating truth to reality.

Realizing that the body was a fundamental problem because of the limitations it imposed, he next tried to transcend some of these physical limitations by punishing his body through deprivation and fierce meditation (asceticism was very common in India in those days). He tortured himself through starving his body for several years, subsisting on a few grains of rice per day, till he became skeleton-like. By his own description, his eyes became sunken sockets; his scalp held only a few strands of hair, and his skin showed the clear outline of his bones underneath. He then realized that his entire attention was on his body and he’d still been unable to answer his question. So asceticism also had not worked. By this time 6 years had passed from his departure from his palace.

Now 35, and on the verge of death, he remembered an incident from his childhood. Once, as a little boy he had gone with his Father to attend a Spring Planting Festival. He had sat under an apple tree and remembered seeing ants on the ground getting trampled because of the seeding of the new crop. He had felt great sadness and compassion for the ants. He also remembered the simple perfect beauty of that day and how he had sat in a yoga pose and felt great joy and peace. It is said that he (as the little boy) sat like this for a long time that day … so that when the sun began to set, the shadows of all the other trees began to lengthen … but the shadow of the apple tree he was sitting under did not move. It was Nature’s homage to the peace of his presence.

His insight from remembering this incident was that there’s joy in this world, no matter how broken it may be. But in order to sustain this joy, he would need to eat. So when a young girl offered him rice and milk, he was deeply moved and ate.

The memory of his childhood incident also made him realize that to answer his question about human suffering, he would need to trust himself and look within.

So after eating the rice and milk he was offered, he sat under a Bodhi tree (Fig tree) and meditated, vowing that he would not move till he got his question answered, even if his body were to wither away.

Buddha … or Siddhartha (his given name), meditated through the night, and, as his awareness expanded, he began to recall his past lives … an infinite number of lives … as insects, animals, women, men … even gods … Rama and Krishna.

By the morning his mind had expanded completely …he was given a vision of the cosmic working of the Universe. He had reached such a level of complete awareness … known as peace or Nirvana [a psychological state of mind or consciousness in which one is completely released (detached) from desire and fear] … that flowers rained down on him and around him.

The reason I’m relating this is to point out that Buddha too had his Kundalini rise after going inward and making contact with his Self or Shakti or the God within. So when we have dreams like the one Astro Keen wrote about, they are indicators that we are making that same contact with our individual Shakti, just like Buddha did.

The huge difference of course is that Buddha saw it all in one night, while awake during meditation, and we see this information mostly in dreams, and generally over a lengthy period of time. Well … Buddha was God/Vishnu incarnate (Sri Ramakrishna said that Buddha was one of the Ten Incarnations of God and Hindu mythology speaks about the Ten Incarnations of Lord Vishnu). In addition, Buddha had prepared himself for 6 rigorous years (plus many lifetimes). So, imo, … when Buddha achieved enlightenment, his soul was ready to fully and completely meet and become God or become one with God.

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ True meditation is the correction and lifting of our thoughts … from fear, doubt, and insecurity to love, trust, and faith.

~ moi ~

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posted October 09, 2013 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question about Buddha:

I was at first puzzled about the God incarnate Buddha having had an infinite number of past lives … I mean why would a God incarnate need to go through all that, right?

I found my answer in one of iQ’s posts (below). In fact I learned so much from this single post, that it was a real eye opener for me. This single post condenses 11 years of iQ’s research on God, and is outstandingly informative, especially for those who are trying to understand Kundalini Shakti—(I had to read it more than once to get the hierarchy of all the entities straight in my head … but once I was able to grasp it I, I had an aha moment )

This is what iQ said—from Astrokeen’s thread—
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001771.html

“OverSoul/Highest Self or SuperConsciousness has been a constant in my research for over 11 years.
The fundamentals of this can be found in the Upanishads.
There is one Ultimate Eternal God Soul called PARAMATMA.
PARAMATMA is the Cosmic Dreamer i.e He dreams up the Universes. And to experience the Dream he first Manifests in this Dream or "Maya"
as Shiva and Parvati/Shakti.
Their sacred union "Creates" Physical Universe, each with a Vishnu Level Being to Preserve.
Vishnu further creates a Brahma or Creator God for every Universe's Age.
To experience the creations of Brahma, the Paramatma sends connected beings from Himself called "Atmans". These are the OverSouls of Human Beings. We are thus the True Immortals, the creations from Brahma who play the role of Deities/"Manasputras"/Devas/Asuras do not have an Immortal Soul like ours. When they die or get de-created it is all over for them. They are like sophisticated Holograms.
Every OverSoul further subdivides into N- number of Jiva-Atmas.
Jiva-Atma's connective part to the Immortal OverSoul or Atman is called "AntarAtman". This is our true "Divine Immortal Self".
The Ego or "Ahamkara" is the part of the Jiva Atma who forgets the AntarAtma so that worldly experiences can be enjoyed.
Ego has a Brain, Astral Body, Etheric Body to connect Chakras of AntarATman to Physical Ganglion in the Body. Ego also has a Causal Body per incarnation and a greater Causal Body that collects debts from many incarnations into one bank account. This has full access by Atman.
When the forgetfulness is too much, death occurs to send back the emotional total of experiences in the Aura, then the Antaratman is freed at Death but the karmic debts of the Ego have to be settled from the Greater Causal Body. So the Atman arranges another incarnation for AntarAtman plus a fresh Ego to settle debts and gather new experiences.
At some point, the AntarAtman decides enough is enough and can choose not to incarnate with an Ego again. At this point,AntarATman merges with Atman. When all AntarAtmans do the same, the Atman's job is done and He can merge back with ParamAtman. What happens next? Such an experienced Atman can be reincarnated as a Vishnu or a Brahma level Entity in another Era or can manifest as Angel or Rishi to guid some other JivaAtmas who are stuck in too many cycles.”

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ True meditation is the correction and lifting of our thoughts … from fear, doubt, and insecurity to love, trust, and faith.

~ moi ~

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
Astro Keen, your dream not only sounds promising but (I feel) is also a sure sign of your own Shakti. If faith begins with a conscious encounter with God, then I would include your dream as a definite encounter, which is likely to fuel your own faith. It also shows that things are beginning to come together in response to your own desire to know your Shakti .........

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Just a quick reminder for you, Seruryu, and others … do check astrological aspects … as well as geometric patterns … between Vedic asteroids—Siva, Mahakala, Rudra, Shankar, Hara (all names for Lord Shiva) and Kaali, Parvati, Tara (all names for Goddess Parvati). I would check them in connection with Saturn and/or asteroid Karma to see where we might have interference (or ease) with Kundalini awakening due to our karma. Dreams, along with supporting astrology give a more complete picture.


LInda, thank you for your lovely response - so heartening. To know that the Goddess came knocking at my door is utterly wonderful.

There was another aspect to the dream, although not one as compelling as seeing the beautiful goddess. I gave birth to another child later - a boy, whom my son (my actual son, also appearing briefly in the dream) said was Regulus. Now, Regulus is the name for Archangel Raphael, the healing angel. It is interesting that I have Hygeia conjunct Saturn exact, which iQ said was evidence of having been a healer in a past life. I wonder whether the dream was also establishing that connection in some way.

I checked asteroids and found Hara exactly conjunct Saturn, which, I assume, indicates a past life yoga practice. However, there are lots of squares with other asteroids; in fact a grand cross is formed: Mahakala - 22 Cap, Tara - 22 Leo, Rudra - 22 Taurus, Moon - 22 Aqua, Hara and Saturn - 21 Sco

In addtion to the energy (or challenges) of the grand cross, the degrees at which some of the Kundalini asteroids are placed, 21-22 degrees of fixed signs (Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, and Aquarius), are considered classic critical degrees. "These are considered sensitive, and sometimes strengthening, points."

I love it when things come together in astrology! Even when I don't know what they mean.

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Very interesting thread!

I had a bliss experience when I was 19, it was amazing just as you described. it lasted 36 hours. I felt connected to everything yet perfect and clear. I gave advice to someone in that 36 hour period, it was so filled with wisdom and just came to my mouth I knew it was from above.

I felt that everything that had happen to me up to that point was suppose to happen exactly the way it did and I was on the right path.

I knew the state was temporary but I wished to learn how to extend it at will, it was a different state of consciousness- perfection.

I was into chakra and kundalini at the time, then as I advanced my studies I learned that one must never push kundalini too soon. So I put it aside and have been on a seeker/philosopher path.

So - I am now 42 and my Uranus opposition is within 6 months. I have been waiting for this for 23 years. I am trying to align myself so hopefully I may be worthy of that state once again.

I have found a kundalini yoga instructor, practiced doing the right thing and being kind and grateful.

I did get a test this past year, and I passed. I hope this means I'm ready.

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Lucky Star, you are indeed one of the lucky ones!

Could say a little more about the Uranus opposition you mentioned? What will Uranus be opposed to? Also what was the test tryng to ascertain since you had aready experienced a robust Kundalini awakening?

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The Uranus opposition is when transiting Uranus opposes your natal Uranus. The is a book by Barbara Hand Clow - The Liquid Light of Sex. Some of it I question, but I take what I need from it and it does make sense in light of what I read 20 years ago in Wheels of Life by Anodea Judith and another book - gosh I can't remember the name it was so long ago.

You get three chances, almost like a car driving over something- Uranus does a hit, then he backs up and hit it again (retrograde) and then he does his final drive over.

My test: to make an extremely long story short I was made to choose between the path of light vs the path of dark. It was about a 10 month journey. I chose to do the right thing and I thank God now that I did because I am seeing what could have happen. It would have slipped up my chances to be ready for the opposition. I am finishing up a few professional obligations right now and then I hope to be ready to take this very seriously. When I was doing a kundalini meditation this spring I totally felt connected to the divine but I needed to stop because chaos had taken over my home and you need to be in the right place. I hope this doesn't sound cryptic.

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