posted March 29, 2014 02:00 AM            

Missing 411

I'm not sure where I stand on the abduction phenomena, like I think it is always a possibility, but can't wholly agree that "alien" beings are responsible for all or even most if they are involved at all. And, I can't say I feel that an alien being would have such a malicious agenda behind their interventions or interactions as a "visiting intelligence". I have to say, the ability to travel through space-time, or whatever there is there to be traveled through - probably doesn't fall into the laps of singularly good or bad creatures all so often. We're neither good nor bad as an intelligent organism (humans), and we've barely made it to the nearest celestial object beyond our own planet (moon)... and, look how we behave when we travel, I don't mean in a small sense (to be clear) but broadly, we've come quite a long way from entering into completely new and foreign countries and enslaving/massacring the native populations.
I mean wars still happen, and disputes happen - but they are largely driven by money in this day in age more than any other need. We travel into other countries now to educate others or ourselves, more often than not, I'd expect...

So when we expand our horizons into space - we're not going into the galaxy hoping to cause some malice on other creatures that may or may not live there, so much as experience and educate ourselves on whatever is out there.... right?

That's why I have a lot of trouble accepting most negative abduction scenarios. If it does happen, and maybe it does - I don't think it is so frequent, and I doubt greatly that they would remove people from the habitat entirely and indefinitely when they can just as easily observe and explore us without putting others in harm or pain.

If they are intelligent - they will have consideration, if they have consideration - they potentially have a conscience. A conscience not too different than our own. Perhaps we are no more than animals in their eyes - but the spiritual and mental evolution that would allow them to reach the level of space travel this all would take, really suggest to me that they'd prefer to "tag" and release, or negotiate (like we do when we are loaned rare species like Panda from China) the loan of another being (in the very worst case scenarios). We don't really think of the animal's will when we trade them zoo/reserve to zoo. But, we do concern ourselves with their survival and well-being. Because we aren't savages anymore (mostly), not perfect, but not savages.

I don't think it's hard to imagine some influence like a conscience would exist in possible other space-time traveling entities/social structures.

The more time passes, the more we seem to as a species become aware of our impact on our earth and our neighbors and our responsibility to ensure the safety and perseverance of them. Can you imagine there being an intelligent society so far ahead of us that hasn't or isn't experiencing these same realizations? I can't.

But, I would consider a lot of disappearances very bizarre, and a lot of the more peculiar ones that get attention on a broader scale seem to come with that disturbing and somewhat cliche set of excuses from the bureaucracy or other investigating parties in the end. I mean where the majority of people involved or not can agree the answer given is not right or explaining enough or honestly... just a collective sense of something being off.

Bees just sense when one of their own have come into peril. They send out pheromones, signals that the colony/hive can pick up on and even follow. In some ways I figure we have a similar group sense of when things are off with one of our own, where even when we aren't present at the time of the incident, we can tell something happened to them. A group awareness and agreement exists for whatever reason. I think we've seen it in cases like Kennedy's assassination, and as recently as Caylee Anthony. It doesn't have to be as large a media scene as that, it could be more regional... but, these are easier to illustrate the point I mean to convey.

If you feel UFO/ET are responsible for abductions (possibly), than perhaps you're right. It's not an unheard of theory, or belief. ^^

I rambled - sorry T___T *shouldbesleeping*

posted March 29, 2014 02:30 AM            

The Pleiadians were supposed to be more of a Higher Dimensionally Transformative type of race.

Some of the electronic mechanics just make me feel yucky inside.

posted March 30, 2014 08:51 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
Have you heard of this, yet AG?

Missing 411

I'm not sure where I stand on the abduction phenomena, like I think it is always a possibility, but can't wholly agree that "alien" beings are responsible for all or even most if they are involved at all. And, I can't say I feel that an alien being would have such a malicious agenda behind their interventions or interactions as a "visiting intelligence". I have to say, the ability to travel through space-time, or whatever there is there to be traveled through - probably doesn't fall into the laps of singularly good or bad creatures all so often. We're neither good nor bad as an intelligent organism (humans), and we've barely made it to the nearest celestial object beyond our own planet (moon)... and, look how we behave when we travel, I don't mean in a small sense (to be clear) but broadly, we've come quite a long way from entering into completely new and foreign countries and enslaving/massacring the native populations.
I mean wars still happen, and disputes happen - but they are largely driven by money in this day in age more than any other need. We travel into other countries now to educate others or ourselves, more often than not, I'd expect...

So when we expand our horizons into space - we're not going into the galaxy hoping to cause some malice on other creatures that may or may not live there, so much as experience and educate ourselves on whatever is out there.... right?

That's why I have a lot of trouble accepting most negative abduction scenarios. If it does happen, and maybe it does - I don't think it is so frequent, and I doubt greatly that they would remove people from the habitat entirely and indefinitely when they can just as easily observe and explore us without putting others in harm or pain.

If they are intelligent - they will have consideration, if they have consideration - they potentially have a conscience. A conscience not too different than our own. Perhaps we are no more than animals in their eyes - but the spiritual and mental evolution that would allow them to reach the level of space travel this all would take, really suggest to me that they'd prefer to "tag" and release, or negotiate (like we do when we are loaned rare species like Panda from China) the loan of another being (in the very worst case scenarios). We don't really think of the animal's will when we trade them zoo/reserve to zoo. But, we do concern ourselves with their survival and well-being. Because we aren't savages anymore (mostly), not perfect, but not savages.

I don't think it's hard to imagine some influence like a conscience would exist in possible other space-time traveling entities/social structures.

The more time passes, the more we seem to as a species become aware of our impact on our earth and our neighbors and our responsibility to ensure the safety and perseverance of them. Can you imagine there being an intelligent society so far ahead of us that hasn't or isn't experiencing these same realizations? I can't.

But, I would consider a lot of disappearances very bizarre, and a lot of the more peculiar ones that get attention on a broader scale seem to come with that disturbing and somewhat cliche set of excuses from the bureaucracy or other investigating parties in the end. I mean where the majority of people involved or not can agree the answer given is not right or explaining enough or honestly... just a collective sense of something being off.

Bees just sense when one of their own have come into peril. They send out pheromones, signals that the colony/hive can pick up on and even follow. In some ways I figure we have a similar group sense of when things are off with one of our own, where even when we aren't present at the time of the incident, we can tell something happened to them. A group awareness and agreement exists for whatever reason. I think we've seen it in cases like Kennedy's assassination, and as recently as Caylee Anthony. It doesn't have to be as large a media scene as that, it could be more regional... but, these are easier to illustrate the point I mean to convey.

If you feel UFO/ET are responsible for abductions (possibly), than perhaps you're right. It's not an unheard of theory, or belief. ^^

I rambled - sorry T___T *shouldbesleeping*

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posted March 30, 2014 11:19 PM            

Alien intelligences isn't something we can do more than guess at. Even slightly different senses and modes of communication would give a radically different way to view the universe, and if they communicate by say smells (producing them the way we do sound and may consider us "deaf & dumb"), what then? And if they're telepathic, and anything like human sentience, then there's a good chance they don't even consider us sentient anymore than most humans consider chimps and gorillas able to communicate in Sign as "real people." (Heck, plenty of humans think other humans don't have souls, or like how blacks are just sophisticated monkeys, etc. Assuming that's a normal conceit of sentience then it's damn likely sentient intelligences from another world consider us clever animals at best.)

And I consider the belief that crop circles are the attempt of aliens to communicate with us pure human conceit that thinks the cosmos revolves around them and that we are so special, the same kind of thinking that believed the sun orbited the Earth or that God made the world just for us. And they think "I know I'm smart and a person deserving of consideration, therefore an advanced alien species would recognize I'm smart and a real person deserving of rights and consideration." I'd say such people aren't anywhere as smart as they think they are.

Luckily, I expect an intergalactic society could easily meet its needs from both technological forces and/or from uninhabited sources much easier to acquire rather than plundering worlds like ours. Of course that's just a guess on my part.

posted March 30, 2014 11:29 PM            

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"They actually do talk, then. They use words, ideas, concepts?"

"Oh, yes. Except they do it with meat."

"I thought you just told me they used radio."

"They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat, it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat."

"Omigod. Singing meat. This is altogether too much. So what do you advise?"

"Officially or unofficially?"

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posted March 31, 2014 01:05 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I wonder how many of the 200,000+ LL members may’ve been abducted by aliens, atleast 10 ? scary thought.

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posted March 31, 2014 10:24 AM              

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Take a look at your chart too, see if galactic centres, asteroids related to ET are prominent. I’ve seen some weird stuffs, one even tried to communicate with me when I was half-asleep, I couldn’t understand it’s language. I don’t want to let any hypnotherapist find out all of my secrets though .

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posted March 31, 2014 10:28 AM              

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I want to go to a hypnotherapist and explore this possibility because there were things that happened in my childhood that just dont add up. But like i said i dont know if it happened. And I have only recently come to the conclusion that it may have happened.

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posted March 31, 2014 10:51 AM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
What doesn't add up? This is freaking me out lol I don't want to believe it's a possibility but I'm sure it probably is too...

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posted March 31, 2014 02:02 PM              

Ok but from what I've looked up quickly, apparently they live way longer than us-800 years, but can't reach the same level of consciousness (some) humans can through experiences like meditation, OBE's etc. and they also can't reincarnate. So they take humans to perform experiments and some who disappear are taken to an "earth like planet" (which astronomically it's been confirmed there are many). Which if alien species do exist isn't that far fetched if you consider the way humans treat other humans, for example the Holocaust with all the terrible "experiments" done on people in the name of science... Same with how we herd and slaughter animals we consider less evolved..

I also read there could be attempted cross breading and some of the abductions of females might be to take a fetus before she may even know she's pregnant I actually knew someone- a family member of a friend, who claimed to be able to communicate with them ( or a species of some kind) and he said once they "told him" I was going to become pregnant, which never happened but it freaked me out for a long time...

posted March 31, 2014 02:11 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ Whoa!! going “home” ? maybe you’re an alien yourself or a starseed ? Actually I have a feeling that the weird thing I saw wanted to take me “home” . God knows what “they” would’ve done with me at “home” .

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posted March 31, 2014 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
What asteroids should you look at? I have Merc conjunct the GC and until this thread I'd never even heard of "the greys" but ummm yeah it's a little terrifying cause I've seen some really weird sh*t too (two of their faces-I was with a friend too, her Venus conjuncts the GC- we both saw the same exact thing) But I don't talk about it since there's no way to do that without sounding completely insane lol. I don't think I was abducted tho... I just can't believe I'd never heard of the greys before since I have looked into all this alien stuff after having another weird experience..

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posted March 31, 2014 02:51 PM              

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I’m not sure hmmm look at all 3 GCs, fixed star pleiades, algol, etc. What did those weird sh*t look like ? *googles* I’d probably faint if I saw one of those in my room and find myself in some other planet when I regain consciousness(i.e. if I’m lucky) .

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Lol I have Mars conjunct Algol, POF conjunct Pleiades, Moon-kaali conjunct Antares, Lilith conjunct the GA

Ok so we were driving and it was late so there weren't any cars, but I saw two "people" cross the road ahead of us which I found strange considering we weren't really around anything, but as we got closer we could see their bodies/heads and it was literally like something out of a movie... They were dressed identically in dark clothes, their heads were bald and disproportionate, greyish skin, huge almond shaped eyes and pointy faces, and the way they were moving... kind of running and swiveling their heads in a very weird f***ing way lol

We were younger though (like 18) so after freaking out for a minute we just sort of laughed about it cause what else can you do... We tried to think of logical explanations but there's no way those were masks or something, you could see the eyes moving... So idk it sounds ridiculous but that's what happened.

posted March 31, 2014 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I was also intensely interested in ufos/aliens ever since I was a little kid. I always just knew that aliens were real, it was never really a question for me. I also drew aliens and spacecrafts all the time. In fact almost every picture I ever drew featured a ufo in the background.

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posted March 31, 2014 03:57 PM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:

What did it sound like when one was trying to communicate with you?? That would scare the sh** out of me too lol

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Lol the one I saw was naked, I think *no, I didn’t get to see anything*

posted March 31, 2014 04:01 PM              

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Lol the one I saw was naked, I think *no, I didn’t get to see anything*

It made a buzzing sound. I wasn’t scared at all at the time, it felt like I was under hyposis.

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