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venusdeindia unregistered
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posted December 02, 2007 07:00 AM
mannu if u read the link i had provided ur answer would be different.the witchhunts were never about real witchcraft. the council of nicea that convened had no relatives or followers of christ, it was full of roman ploiticians led by a power hungry king who saw a potential in a poster child like christ 200 years after his death. the council did not even have christian followers who were spreading his word quietly in jerusalem. the organised religion that became Christianity was created by this council, who VOTED on whether christ should be presented as human or son of god and whether women should have SOULS !!! also this council asked various scholars to write the TEXTBOOK for their students that is now the Bible, which devout Christians treat like it fell straight from heaven the same council convened by this Roman Emperor who declared himself POPE also decided by means of vote that the church be patriarchial rather than the matriarchial culture that in reality was in existence in europe.THAT is what the witchhunts were about. U know what Bill Gates does to his Competition. he either buys them or burns them.he has been tries by the US Govt for attempting Monoploy. ditto with the Vatican after 1000 years when they could not erase the 5000yr old matriarchial beliefs into misogynist piousness, they resorted to witchhunts. before u make any further comments check the links i m providing or google for the Malleus Malicforum the original manual that was distributed by the roman catholic church to its clergy and " pious " christians in europe classifies as witches the following healers psychics midwives widows herb gatherers astrologers immortal women unmarried women -- basically back in the middle ages if u were neither married nor a prostitute and were making ur own money or were highly Spiritual not a Religious church goer , not the kind of a woman EVE would be proud of --- U were considered fit to be raped, torturted by clergy ( by raping u the priests are purging u of ur evil ) and then u would be tied to a stake for the whole town or village to see so they wouldn't dare to be like u and ofcourse roasted like hot turkey. :applause:dont take my word for this download Malleus Malicforum freely downloadable on the internet or read this link http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienciareal/cienciareal12.htm to read about the means of persecution http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican29.htm the bottomline is the Church is nothing but a multi- billiob dollar organisation, christ is the brand, religion is the commodity, church is the store. sure all they had to do to be top in business was burn a few 5 million women so people would forget the whole mother earth , pagan beliefs and buy their brand of blood soaked enlightenment.
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posted December 03, 2007 08:41 PM
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Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 18, 2007 12:08 AM
I am bumping this thread again and asking basic questions again without reading first 3 pages. Please I need it to be explained as if to a small child LOL:1. Gospel of Judas proves Jesus wanted Judas to hand him over to the jews. But why? 2. Why will Jesus stage his own death? Is his death imminent? Or is there a political reason behind it? Was it planned to attain freedom from Rome? Were some of his rich followers involved in the conspiracy? 3. When Pilate gives him a last chance, why is he so silent all of a sudden? 4. If Jesus was dead why would he still emit blood and water after the soldier pierces him. Isn't he supposed to be dead? 5. Was he disillusioned by his notion of God who he thought will come to rescue him? Did he really think he was some one special? I mean look at him, he cursed a fig tree. I also think that what happened on cross was entirely subjective experience and cannot be told. Its between him and God. What do you think? 6. Is his tomb really in Kashmir where he spend rest of his life in solitude and silence? What about his mother's tomb? Or his wife if he had one? IP: Logged |
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posted December 18, 2007 01:22 AM
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posted December 18, 2007 08:56 AM
Mannu... When my book gets published... I will make sure you get a copy.I could answer your questions but it is a long complex story. It would only make you ask more questions. It is a long hidden story, and stories within stories, within stories and the branches thereof spanning from 28BCE to 83CE. Too many coverups, inside plans, identity confusion, and much later the writers further messed it up by merging/blending several key players and what really happened, with known from the Bible, and other writings' character lists and forgetting the things not written down, like more than one person using such names, or their Greek, Latin, Aramaic, or Hebraic variations. So Jesus and Yeshua become confused... Judas D., Judas I., and later, Jude/Judah/Judas T.D..... Marys x4 or more all confused..... For now I will say... Judas Of Keroth/Iscaria... had absolutely nothing to do with the story. His name was used as allegory for greed and betrayal to hide which the identity of which Judas/Judas/Jude/Juda etcetera...was guilty. And to further hide the identity of who really wanted him captured and locked up at least during The Passover. Unfortunately, the ones wanting to lock him up for his own good, did not know that the insurrectionist, Jesus Bar Abbas was already under arrest for making trouble in public places, preaching like a madman. Its funny...bits of those clues are in Bibles but everyone just glosses over the clues...which are far from hidden...And of one understands the customs, laws and politics, and atmosphere of Jerusalem during Passover...........things become much clearer. I know I have not answered as you wish. For now one more thing...choose to believe it or not{btw the tomb in India is not his, it is a younger brother)but Pilate and the faithful (Herod) Antipast are hinted at in the Bibles, there are a few clues, some so obvious, some more subtle.....of who helped him escape...one hint is in The Book Of Revelation. Pilate and H.A. could not in that political/religious climate let anyone know what part they had played in the intense drama, plans, and plots. More hints are there...Pilate and H.E. exiled to other countries for the rest of their lives. And in other writings the substitute mentioned, but even they got it wrong in the details...., Rev 2:13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, [even] where Satan's seat [is]: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas [was] my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. Rant over... IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 18, 2007 09:32 AM
Fayte,Thank you. I will surely buy your book. For another perspective Two more points to consider: 1. To whom does the latest tombs discovered intact in Jerusalem belong. NGC/Discovery had special documentary on them. 2. There is a lost tribe of the jew in Kashmir India. Did Jesus go looking for them?
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posted December 18, 2007 10:08 AM
quote: Fayte,Thank you. I will surely buy your book.
No my friend and teacher, I shall gift a copy to you. quote: For another perspectiveTwo more points to consider: 1. To whom does the latest tombs discovered intact in Jerusalem belong. NGC/Discovery had special documentary on them.
I do not have television. But just like the hype over the So called Ossuary of Jesus' brother...which turned out to be a fake...or should I say...not who they thought... quote: 2. There is a lost tribe of the jew in Kashmir India. Did Jesus go looking for them?
They came to him.os·su·ar·y (sh-r, sy-) n. pl. os·su·ar·ies A container or receptacle, such as an urn or a vault, for holding the bones of the dead. IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 18, 2007 11:20 AM
Thank you my fellow traveller >>>But just like the hype over the So called Ossuary of Jesus' brother...which turned out to be a fake IP: Logged |
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posted December 18, 2007 02:00 PM
Mannu Namaste` A little background here, but not so much everyone goes running amuck saying "man she is daft!" I talk to God alot. I do not ask for guidance... I demand/dare it! I say such as...:Show me what to do, give me answers, etcetera..... I then hear..."are you ready?" I reply "yes". I hear again..."you could die. Are you still ready?" I say "yes". Then I hear..."Are you afraid?" I reply..."of course I am, but I am ready." I hear "good answer". I do not write my book consciously. It has over 400 pages pretty much done and will most likely be 600 pages when finished from the 100 pages of notes. For example... I wrote 10 hours straight through in deep trance. Time did not count. I was someplace else... I did not know what I had written until I read it all later when my husband came home to find me still in trance furiously writing in the same position I was in 10 hours before. I had not moved and had used up 5 ink pens. No food, no water, no moving except to write after I said, "I am ready", to God. and became a conduit. I never heard the phone ring either, and there were 4 messages on the machine. It was hard for him to bring me out of trance. I begain babbling in ancient languages. I begain writing in them too... When I came back to me running my show, so to speak... I was utterly and completely astounded by what I had written! We checked it all against historical names, dates, places, customs, etcetera.... 111 years of time..... And it ALL fit together seamlessly. Neither of us knew any of the facts. Yet in trance, there they were found and written down, plus the missing parts, the back stories..... I may lay the theoritical on most everything... However when I tell God, "I want to know now!" And "I am ready!" I mean it to the very depths of my soul and believe God and open my self Utterly to God.So laugh anyone if you wish. I theorize about many things...most things..... But not God, and communing with God, and Love. Those three things I take beyond seriously. I have given myself over to God. I listen to God. God is. ------------------ *************************** IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 25, 2007 12:49 AM
When intellect ends intuition begins - Osho quote:
You must have heard the name of Madame Curie -- she was one of the Nobel Prize winner scientists -- and she was working on a scientific problem for years and was not getting anywhere. One night she worked late and was really getting tired and fed up with the problem -- she was almost going to drop the idea and start some other project. What is the point of wasting time on something which has taken four or five years of her life and she is still just where she was at the beginning -- not a single glimpse, not a single clue. And life is short; you cannot waste your whole life on a single scientific problem. That night she went to sleep thinking, "Tomorrow I am going to burn all the papers that I have written these five years -- I am finished with it." In the morning when she woke up she was surprised, she could not believe it. On her table, in her open notebook that she had left the night before, the answer was written. And the most puzzling thing was that the room was locked from within; nobody had entered. Her husband was also a scientist but if Madame Curie could not solve the problem in five years then he could not manage in just one night. And moreover, he was not at home, he had gone on a trip. As she watched closely it became more and more mysterious -- the handwriting was hers. Then she closed her eyes and tried to remember what had happened, and then the whole scene revealed itself.... Now she remembered that in the night she had had a dream. She had gone to the table, written the answer, went back to her bed and forgotten all about it. It was not a dream, it was a reality, because the notebook and the answer was the proof that she had not dreamt, but from where did this answer come? Because there was nothing else on the page, only the answer. It was not from her intellect -- from her intellect she had been working for five years. But because she got tired the intellect said, "it is beyond me." She slept with this idea that "I am finished with it" -- this was the decision of the intellect and in such moments intuition takes over. Intuition takes over only when intellect is finished. Intellect is for a lower reality -- for the mundane world. Intuition is for the higher reality, for the mysterious, for the miraculous. Then she worked out backwards from the answer the whole process and found that the answer was right. This is similar, exactly similar to the case of Gautam Buddha. But nobody has even compared the two processes. Gautam Buddha became enlightened on the night when he had decided to drop all efforts. He was tired, he has done everything that was told by the masters, teachers, scriptures and he did everything to his best and nothing had happened. Twelve years had passed since he had left his palace and his hands were as empty as ever. It was a full moon night, sitting under a tree he decided that the whole search was futile -- `I am finished with it.' With the same attitude in which Madame Curie went to her bed, Buddha went to sleep under the tree. And in the morning when he opened his eyes, as the sun was rising, he was amazed to look at the world. It was not the world he had slept in. These were not the eyes that he had gone to sleep with -- he had new eyes and a new world. It was luminous, it was mystery all over. And all his anxiety had disappeared, all his questioning had disappeared -- there was absolute silence and immense tranquillity. For the first time he felt he was at home, he had arrived -- now there was nowhere to go, the goal was achieved. The intellect had been working for twelve years -- tired, it dropped out of the way, gave space for intuition to move in; and what is impossible for the intellect is not impossible for intuition. For intuition is a totally different approach, it is an innocent approach with no logic. It is the approach of the child when he is born and opens his eyes for the first time. He knows nothing but he sees everything, although he cannot say, "what are the walls and what are the pillars and what are people and what are animals?" -- he cannot discriminate. But he is seeing everything. He cannot describe, he has no words, but that does not mean that he is not seeing. Intuition is pure seeing -- it is not a process, it is a quantum leap.--Osho talks
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posted December 25, 2007 01:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by Mannu: When intellect ends intuition begins - Osho [QUOTE] You must have heard the name of Madame Curie -- she was one of the Nobel Prize winner scientists -- and she was working on a scientific problem for years and was not getting anywhere. One night she worked late and was really getting tired and fed up with the problem -- she was almost going to drop the idea and start some other project. What is the point of wasting time on something which has taken four or five years of her life and she is still just where she was at the beginning -- not a single glimpse, not a single clue. And life is short; you cannot waste your whole life on a single scientific problem. That night she went to sleep thinking, "Tomorrow I am going to burn all the papers that I have written these five years -- I am finished with it." In the morning when she woke up she was surprised, she could not believe it. On her table, in her open notebook that she had left the night before, the answer was written. And the most puzzling thing was that the room was locked from within; nobody had entered. Her husband was also a scientist but if Madame Curie could not solve the problem in five years then he could not manage in just one night. And moreover, he was not at home, he had gone on a trip. As she watched closely it became more and more mysterious -- the handwriting was hers. Then she closed her eyes and tried to remember what had happened, and then the whole scene revealed itself.... Now she remembered that in the night she had had a dream. She had gone to the table, written the answer, went back to her bed and forgotten all about it. It was not a dream, it was a reality, because the notebook and the answer was the proof that she had not dreamt, but from where did this answer come? Because there was nothing else on the page, only the answer. It was not from her intellect -- from her intellect she had been working for five years. But because she got tired the intellect said, "it is beyond me." She slept with this idea that "I am finished with it" -- this was the decision of the intellect and in such moments intuition takes over. Intuition takes over only when intellect is finished. Intellect is for a lower reality -- for the mundane world. Intuition is for the higher reality, for the mysterious, for the miraculous. Then she worked out backwards from the answer the whole process and found that the answer was right. This is similar, exactly similar to the case of Gautam Buddha. But nobody has even compared the two processes. Gautam Buddha became enlightened on the night when he had decided to drop all efforts. He was tired, he has done everything that was told by the masters, teachers, scriptures and he did everything to his best and nothing had happened. Twelve years had passed since he had left his palace and his hands were as empty as ever. It was a full moon night, sitting under a tree he decided that the whole search was futile -- `I am finished with it.' With the same attitude in which Madame Curie went to her bed, Buddha went to sleep under the tree. And in the morning when he opened his eyes, as the sun was rising, he was amazed to look at the world. It was not the world he had slept in. These were not the eyes that he had gone to sleep with -- he had new eyes and a new world. It was luminous, it was mystery all over. And all his anxiety had disappeared, all his questioning had disappeared -- there was absolute silence and immense tranquillity. For the first time he felt he was at home, he had arrived -- now there was nowhere to go, the goal was achieved. The intellect had been working for twelve years -- tired, it dropped out of the way, gave space for intuition to move in; and what is impossible for the intellect is not impossible for intuition. For intuition is a totally different approach, it is an innocent approach with no logic. It is the approach of the child when he is born and opens his eyes for the first time. He knows nothing but he sees everything, although he cannot say, "what are the walls and what are the pillars and what are people and what are animals?" -- he cannot discriminate. But he is seeing everything. He cannot describe, he has no words, but that does not mean that he is not seeing. Intuition is pure seeing -- it is not a process, it is a quantum leap. --Osho talks
[/QUOTE]A Lexigram of: Madame Maria Skłodowska Curie I AM A DREAMER I AWOKE I WORKED I ASKED IS RADIUM, CESSIUM/CESIUM? AM I A SEER? I DREAMED RADIUM WAS A CURE A DREAD DISEASE CURE OR A CAUSE? IP: Logged |
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posted December 25, 2007 11:49 AM
"The good Lord did not arrive by facsimile".IP: Logged |
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posted February 02, 2008 11:46 PM
hippichick I so totally agree with you!IP: Logged |
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posted February 03, 2008 04:09 AM
Greetings, Nirmanakaya~ quote:
Nirmanakaya Knowflake Posts: 6 From: USA Registered: Jan 2008 posted February 02, 2008 11:46 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hippichick I so totally agree with you!
Can you please refer me to Hippichicks post? ------------------ Between the woods and frozen lake The darkest evening of the year.... The only other sound's the sweep Of easy wind and downy flake. The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost IP: Logged |
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posted March 21, 2008 04:56 PM
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posted March 25, 2008 03:18 AM
fayte, cant wait for ur book man....sounds lovely, sure the men in cloth might end to passes to hell but waht the heck i really do want to go to kasmir to see the tomb though..IP: Logged |
LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9743 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 25, 2008 11:19 AM
venusdeindia I had many a talk with certain ministers who saw my theories as valid. So valid some begain telling their congregation on Sunday sermons. This made some angry in the sheep flock. The concepts weirded them out. Some of the ministers left and do not preach anymore. My theories made more sense to them than what they believed prior to hearing of my theories. I poke holes in people's comfort zones, and smash glass ceilings. Some people hate me for it, and others appreciate it. Paradigm shifts are good for folks to experience. As for the tomb, I do not believe it is the body of Issa/Yeshua/Jesus in it. I have a good idea who is in it but will not say at this time. Just my opinions here. PS. As with Mannu, when the books are done I shall gift copies to you. Namaste`------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ IP: Logged |
Lei_Kuei Moderator Posts: 964 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 25, 2008 07:29 PM
Whats the ETA on the books being published at this this point?IP: Logged |
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posted March 25, 2008 07:41 PM
Are there any ancient texts which give clues? I haven't studied the Dead Sea Scrolls or the Nag Hamadhi Library. Has anyone else?Lexx, IMO, Jesus was a very enlightened member of the Essene brotherhood/ sisterhood who probably also studied in Egypt in his childhood.
He was a rebel and a humanist. His teachings had such an impact on people, that after he died, the Romans decided they would take over the Christian religion by putting his teachings together with others and twisting the story of him to suit their own agenda, although he was such an enlightened being the light shines through in his teachings, despite the confusion and the deception. We just need to learn to recognize the truth in our hearts alone. We'll never know the real truth (about the past), exactly, until the day comes when we can see clearly, tuning into the Akashic Records/ Book of Life, for ourselves....... God Bless Jesus..... Because from what I know of him, he was an incredibly loving, sensitive compassionate soul. He also cared for animals. IP: Logged |
LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9743 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 25, 2008 10:30 PM
Lei_Kuei quote: Whats the ETA on the books being published at this this point?
Hopefully one at least in that genre will be ready by this coming Autumn. Others are in the works but not in that genre.LTT quote: Are there any ancient texts which give clues? I haven't studied the Dead Sea Scrolls or the Nag Hamadhi Library. Has anyone else?
Extensively. quote: IMO, Jesus was a very enlightened member of the Essene brotherhood/ sisterhood who probably also studied in Egypt in his childhood.He was a rebel and a humanist.
I will have to differ with you on some of that. Jesus Bar Abbas was a rebel, and an Essene, but not Yeshua Ben Yoseph, He studied in Egypt and after the age of 12 in India and elsewhere. He was the humanist not the rebel. That is why the stories make him sound schizoid acting violent one moment and loving and peaceful the next. There were two guys being historically mistaken as being one guy. Even at the time of the crucifxtion, Pilate was not sure who was who. All he knew was when going by the Latin translation, he had two guys named Iesus locked up and did not know who had done what. So Yeshua got blamed for all the ruckus and trouble Jesus Bar Abbas caused and was first arrested for. There were two and two lineages. History has two similar men (who were first cousins) with the same name in different languages confused. One's father was Yosef ben Heli, and the other Yosef ben Levi, both having a wife Miryam, and both of the Davidic line. See the Bible for one family fleeing to Egypt whilst the family of Jesus Bar Abbas stayed in and around Jerusalem. Yeshua Ben Yosef went away from Judea at about age 12 and was not heard from until about 18 years. Jesus Bar Abbas was around and more well known. He was a rebel and insurrectionist against Rome. Most know him simply as Barabbas. Yeshua Ben Yosef was a peace loving man teaching of the spiritual realms and to render what is Caesar's to Caesar. In other words, worry not about material things, including Rome. Worry about your soul. Jesus Bar Abbas was the Essene and Yeshua Ben Yosef was off in India learning Buddhism and other teachings which when he came back to Judea 18 years later did not sit well with John the Baptist nor the Priests, nor Jesus Bar Abbas. Nor with his own family including his mother who wanted to have him locked up during passover because they all thought him bonkers. As for who warped Yeshua's teaching...blame that on Paul. A very evil self serving two faced lying man. The Romans could not have cared less. IP: Logged |
LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9743 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 25, 2008 11:02 PM
I will toss another bit out... There were TWO TOWNS CALLED BETHLHEM! http://www.bible-history.com/geography/ancient-israel/bethlehem.html One in Judea and one in Judah. One north, one south. Add to the confusion, Jesus Bar Abbas was born in the town of Bethlehem south of Jerusalem, whilst Yeshua ben Yosef was born in a hidden place (I will not divulge at this time) a bit farther east of Bethlehem. Jesus Bar Abbas and family took refuge with the Essenes whilst Yeshua ben Yosef and family fled to Egypt.LTT... I understand fully that quote of Linda's. I am simply stating my theories based on my personal experiences, not simply on what I have read, and you may believe as you wish. OK... Enough for now. IP: Logged |
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posted March 25, 2008 11:40 PM
quote: He was a rebel and a humanist. His teachings had such an impact on people, that after he died, the Romans decided they would take over the Christian religion by putting his teachings together with others and twisting the story of him to suit their own agenda, although he was such an enlightened being the light shines through in his teachings, despite the confusion and the deception. We just need to learn to recognize the truth in our hearts alone.
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LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9743 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 12, 2011 11:52 PM
Some things to ponder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallels_between_Gautama_Buddha_and_Jesus http://buddha-christ.info/similarities.html ------------------ I remember, therefore I am immortal~LEXX Learning is eternal; all true Gods know this simple truth~LEXX ~Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes! ~Leonardo da Vinci Religions are the cradles of despotism ~Marquis de Sade Truth is The Incorruptible Light~Lucy The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Nikola Tesla" }><}}(*>♥<*){{><{ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
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posted January 16, 2011 03:10 AM
BUMP! How's the book coming along, my friend, Lexx?IP: Logged |
LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9743 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 17, 2011 02:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by SilverStone: BUMP! How's the book coming along, my friend, Lexx?
Still more to go but it is going well! LOL! One of several books currently in progress it is. Only one of this specific genre though. ------------------ I remember, therefore I am immortal~LEXX Learning is eternal; all true Gods know this simple truth~LEXX ~Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes! ~Leonardo da Vinci Religions are the cradles of despotism ~Marquis de Sade Truth is The Incorruptible Light~Lucy The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Nikola Tesla" }><}}(*>♥<*){{><{ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ IP: Logged | |