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fayte.m
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posted April 21, 2007 08:46 AM
 
NOTE:
THE BELOW POSTS FROM ME ARE MY THEORIES,
NOT FACTS ABSOLUTE.
I AM NOT ASKING ANYONE TO BELIEVE IN MY THEORIES.
THEORIES ARE FOR CONSIDERATION ONLY,
NOT TO BE TAKEN AS EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE.
My interpretations after each verse:
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Revelation 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
He also calls it new Jerusalem.
Jerusalem means New City. So he is speaking of an even newer looking "changed" Jerusalem..like nothing he has ever imagined before. A modern 21st. century city.
John was having an OBE. As he..not the city..was "coming down from God"=as he viewed he city from above.....
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Revelation 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
Again...he is the one descending..not the city. This is clear by the being taken away in the spirit...i.e.; an OBE.
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Revelation 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
Modern ELECTRIC lighting. Colors and neons and movement. Even the car lights. It would look like jewels to a primitive eye.
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Revelation 21:18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
Modern architecture...glass..skyscrapers....reflective surfaces as on many modern buildings. Mirror/glass like.
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Revelation 21:19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;.
Again...modern materials...glass...metals...plastic...electric lights...vibrant paints...and colorants. quote:
Revelation 21:20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
The same thing as he previous interpretations of what he thought he saw.
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Revelation 21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
And again!
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Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
This indicates to me that he was in an OBE state and was seeing the city...(which may or may not have been Jerusalem...but ANY major modern city) AT NIGHT...from overhead. Now be it from an overlook or from a plane...how do modern cities at nigh look from the air? Like jewels gleaming and glittering below in the darkness! Add to that the sodium vapor lights which make the streets appear as if they are made of gold...and there you have it...a primitive man seeing a vision of the future.
Even brightly lit city could appear in places as to be on fire to a person who does not understand electric lights. It would be like magic or of God to him.
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Revelation 21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
In the ancient times the fortified walls of great cities were often gated and closed at night. He would find the lack of closed gates a strange thing indeed! And again.."no night there"..of course not..ELECTRIC lights!
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posted April 21, 2007 08:50 AM
And did he see fires or bright sodium vapor lights? In his primitive mind, they could look flame-like or as burning embers.
And as one can clearly see above, the streets to a mind that knows nothing of electricity, would appear as if paved with gold! 
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posted April 21, 2007 09:05 AM
Same for Nostradamus.
Seeing from a mind who knows not the ways of the future or electricity, aircraft and so forth.
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X.72L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois,
Du ciel viendra un gran Roy d'effrayeur.
Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angoulmois.
Avant apres Mars regner par bon heur
Two different translations....Two of several I have seen:
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X.72The year Millenium new ignition not before 9th September month
From the sky will come a great King of Terror
Stir up the Great Royal New York
From after War rules per finest hour
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X.72The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror.
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.
Note:
terror and horror are not:
D'effrayeur = terror/horror
they are in French:
terreur horreurI am not sure what the "D'effrayeur" means.
Some letter "f" in old French are actually
"s"...and the reverse. In bad handwriting such could look like "l" or "p"....and so forth.
So some of the troubles in translating him are his awful handwriting and the letters not the same as now.
Then add to that the thing of "J" and "H"...
also interchangeable.
It is near to impossible to decipher his writings by conventional means.
Those are just two of several translations.
Here is mine:
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The wooly mammoth is also known as "The King Of Terra/Earth".
Its frozen body was found in Northern Siberia
(Mongolia)...
Two Satellites were "eaten" or lost to Mars..before and after the wooly mammoth find.
Your translation is not one of the more originals....Here is another version...one of many more translations.....
In the year 1999, and seven months from the sky will come the King of Terror. He will bring to life the great king of the Mongols.
Before and after Mars rule reigns.
Ok...
1999...is OK
But then add this: "AND" seven months....
Most people think that means in July...the seventh month....or August the month after the seventh month is over...so goes the "and" seventh....
BUT! The calendar was not ours! Now Look at the meaning of September:
Sept=SEVEN
Just as Oct=EIGHT.
So by this token we get:
In the year 1999 and after the Seventh Month(September) has passed...the great king of the Earth will come down from the sky...
And life will seem to return to this great king of the people of Mongolia/Siberia.
Afterwards the planet Mars will have its way and resist again being seen too closely.(The destroyed satellites).As for the Wooly Mammoth...
Well he was flown out of the ice...by the largest helicopter in the world....
And his giant tusks were hanging on the ice chunk as he flew suspended underneath the helicopter over the frozen and snowy tundra. This would seem like the great furred beast..was somehow brought back to life! Then the scientists also wondered if its DNA and all might still be viable. In many ways..it was brought back to life!
 
Now...think about this:
There you have a seer and his tripod and water bowl upon it. He knows nothing of helicopters...Wooly Mammoths or Satellites (two that crashed or were lost) going to and crashing mysteriously on Mars.
Also he usually says WAR for war not Mars...
He is sneaky that way...mixing Latin and Ancient French.....
So in that bowl...what terrors would he imagine as the huge monstrous "whirly bird thing with this many ton heavy and tusked hairy creature hanging underneath..so much noise....and the snowy tundra below with a view of the happy and excited scientists and workers jumping up and down with great enthusiasm below the flying spectacle...with other folks of Mongolian appearance and dress there also?
Now add to that the Mars satellites in a vision...and seeing Mars and then a flash of explosion..happen before and after the terror from the sky...or even confused thinking the three events were somehow intertwined.
In 1997, an entire mummified Woolly Mammoth was found in Siberian ice! It was removed in October, 1999 to a frigid, underground cave where it will be carefully studied. Scientists hope to be able to clone this remarkable specimen. NOTE: OCTOBER 1999...refer back to "and seven months...so after(and=after) September..Sept=seven....and there you have it! OCTOBER 1999!!!!! For more on The Mammoth...
Complete Mammoth found in Siberia
October 20, 1999 -times Newspapers
The entire body of a woolly mammoth has been exhumed from the ice of Siberia, 23,000 years after it perished. It was dug from a site on the Taimyr Peninsula on Sunday and flown by helicopter to the town of Khatanga, 150 miles away, a French member of the team responsible for the operation said yesterday. Bernard Buigues said that the beast, named Zharkov in honor of the family that found it, was slung under the helicopter and flown to a cave dug in the permafrost at Khatanga, which replicates the dry and chilly conditions where it was found. Exposure to warmer or more humid conditions could cause the remains to start decaying almost instantly. The head of the mammal was taken from the body last year and is already in the cave, where scientists will carry out painstaking research. Buigues said it was the first time that a mammoth had been recovered intact. Previously, the most exciting finds - also in Siberia - had been chunks of preserved flesh. http://www.crystalinks.com/woollymammoth.html http://www4.nau.edu/amqua/v29n2/jarkov_mammoth.htm And Mars...
First attempt to land near Mars' south pole. Arrived 12/3/1999 after 9/23/1999 loss of Mars Climate Orbiter (MCO), but was also lost. Given up by NASA early in 2000.
There they are...
One lost on September 23rd.
And one lost on December 3rd.
One lost to MARS...before the airlifted wooly mammoth in the sky...
And another lost to MARS..after the wooly mammoth was airlifted! Seems pretty damn clear to me!!!!!!
Once you remember he was not a modern man..seeing modern things(terrible!) like a giant flying noisy monster!
And a unknown tusked bearing creature being carried by it...over the land of the Mongols.
Then anything about the PLANET Mars...would totally confuse him! How could he understand seeing two satellites crashing on Mars?!!!!!!
Add to that the close together time span of these three astounding events and poor Nostradamus must have been totally flabbergasted!
My theory and interpretation of Nostradamus's Quatrain X.LXXII FROM CENTURY X; is copyrighted December 31st.1999
By Lexx 12/31/99
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posted April 21, 2007 09:22 AM
quote:
X.66(X.LXVI)
The chief of London through the realm of America,
The Isle of Scotland will be tried by frost:
King and Reb will face an Antichrist so false,
That he will place them in the conflict all together.
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Century X
X.LXVI(X.66)
The London premier through American power
Will burden the island of Britanny with a cold thing
Reb, the king will have so dreadful a fake antichrist
Who will bring them all into trouble.
MY interpretation of the above translations; a few of many versions):
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Century X
X.LXVI
The London premier(Blair) through American power(Bush) will burden the island of Britanny with a cold thing(idea to go to war).
Reb(rebel as in southerner/Texan) the King(again Bush and his "dynastic aspirations)will have so dreadful a fake antichrist(trying to say Saddam or others..or anyone is evil so there is a reason for war besides the oil)Who will bring them all into trouble.
(Bush is having a war(s)...Blair is deeply involved and so is his country....Saddam is locked up(hung now as of 2007)..his country bombed all to hell..Osama is on the run..the prisons of Gautomo Bay are against the Geneva convention...And the wars are getting worse...and he wishes(Bush) to expand his attacks to other places.)
Lexx 1999.
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posted April 22, 2007 12:21 AM
Hi Fayte, Great post. Indeed it could be the lights of cities. New york city or evey Las Vegas hehehe. I thought I will share something though. The twelve gates made me think of the 12 gates that every human body has. The colors representing the color of the energy centers.
Interesting !!!
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posted April 22, 2007 02:18 AM
Good Morning Mannu 
John was speaking of the 12 gates of Jerusalem.
Many ancient cities were set up this way.
Your chakra thing is interesting but I doubt if John was looking at it so metaphoricaly.
He was a man of a literal mind; and so his misinterprets.
Ancient Judaism was also fixated on the number twelve. And 12X12 and so forth.
Alot of Midrash and redactive tellings and warpings of the literal truth
was used to make prophecy fit,
after the fact,
or simply to make a story flow better,
or be more easily rememebered.Jerusalem Gates
There are three gates in the north wall: Herod’s Gate, Damascus Gate, and the New Gate Herod’s Gate Damascus Gate New Gate There is only one gate on the western wall. Jaffa Gate On the Eastern Wall are St Stephens Gate and The Golden Gate St. Stephen's Gate Golden Gate On the south wall are the Dung Gate and Zion Gate Dung Gate Zion Gate Other Gates of interest: The Huldah Gates The Old Gate, or Jeshanah Gate The Valley Gate Archaeologists found the 12th. gate; but I do not remember its name at the moment.
I also have heard of a Lion's gate and a Mercy gate.
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posted April 23, 2007 03:30 PM
Yes, this reinforces to me that things can be interpreted in more than one way.IP: Logged |
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posted April 24, 2007 01:38 AM
Hi Fayte, When I read the aquarium gospel, the new jerusalem denotes the new heart that God wishes man to possess and dwell therein. I still think that these are human gates in the body to the eternal divinity always present within each and every one of us. I didn't say 12 chakras because theres really 7 main chakras and there are 5 bodies (including physical) for any person.
John is trying to explain the metaphysical in to something earthly perhaps.
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posted April 24, 2007 06:46 AM
John was into symbology and not much into reality.
He tried to present symbology as literal I feel.
I do not feel his primitive mind would
have went beyond the concept of actual
non divine gates of a common materialistic nature.
Again, the number 12 was a number
often quoted by the ancient Judaistic people.
I read the Aquarian Gospel and while somewhat interesting,
I was not impressed.
For now I will stay with my "theories", until something more convincing catches my interest
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posted April 24, 2007 12:56 PM
I believe what John is saying, by the city descending, and him having a Heaven's view...
refers to Heaven, Our OverSoul, Our TrueSelf in Heaven, meeting with Us here, in our Body Temple, bringing Heaven on Earth...through
the gates. ...Pax et Bonum... .the way everything has been shone to me, is very simple and not complicated at all, but
the human Mind cannot comprehend how simple it is, just like the date of Jeses' birth
born on june 6th, in the year 6
6-6-6, it's so simple and in front of
our eyes, yet we are blind to SEE the
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posted April 24, 2007 04:01 PM
Oversoul
Nothing outside of you is actually you. Exceptions are NDEs and OBEs but no one else is using your physical body. To let something oversee you and run your life is much the same as being possessed.  A soul/entity "outside" is not you.
If "something" Outside is doing things to you; no matter how nice it seems it is evil because it is using you or controlling you.
To continue on the issue of Yeshua.
And that 666 Nonsense again. 
 In the Book of Luke when Jesus is asked "where wilt thou that we prepare?" concerning the Kingdom of the New Age of Jesus's return, Jesus says to follow a man "bearing a pitcher of water" into the house he enters. In Astrology, a man bearing a pitcher of water symbolizes the coming of the Age of Aquarius and is known as "the water bearer". In Astrology, the Age of Aquarius comes directly after the Age of Pisces. Ages are believed by some to affect mankind. For Aquarius (also called "the Water bearer"), it is reported we have already been feeling influences - titled Orb of influence (the last ten degrees backwards of the Age of Pisces) - in the accelerated individual, social, cultural, scientific and technological development and globalization through the 20th century. This view is consistent with the popular notion of the New Age movement that regards current times as the "dawning of the Aquarian Age". On the other hand, the Aquarian Age is thought to bring with it an era of universal brotherhood rooted in reason where it will be possible to solve social problems in a manner equitable to all and with greater opportunity for intellectual and spiritual improvement, since Aquarius is an airy, scientific, and intellectual sign and its ruler planet, Uranus, is associated with intuition (knowledge above reason) and direct perceptions of the heart; and on the mundane level it rules electricity and technology. It is generally described by astrologers that in the Age of Aquarius there will be a blending of religion and science to such a degree that a religious science and a scientific religion will be formed. Eastern astrology associates the Age of Pisces with the yin; i.e., spirituality and intuition. Aquarius, on the other hand represents the yang, with its emphasis on rationality and high technology. ------------------
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posted April 24, 2007 04:08 PM
Oversoul 
Nothing outside of you is actually you. Exceptions are NDEs and OBEs but no one else is using your physical body. To let something oversee you and run your life is much the same as being possessed. A soul/entity "outside" is not you.
If "something" Outside is doing things to you; no matter how nice it seems, it is evil because; it is using you and or controlling you. Meat Puppets. Sheep. Bugs to the zapper.Now for more on that 666 Nonsense again.
You are here: Greater Things > Alphabetics > 666 > HOLY BIBLE in ASCII code = 666 Why "HOLY BIBLE"
in ASCII* Code
= 666 http://www.greaterthings.com/home.htm#Web_Overview
http://www.greaterthings.com/Word-Number/666/index.html
http://www.greaterthings.com/Word-Number/index.html#Alphabetics
Number of the Beast
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Number of the Beast is mentioned in the Book of Revelation of the Christian New Testament and has long been accepted to be 666 (or, in some cases, 616). The meaning of the number is debated. In some interpretations of Christian eschatology the "Beast" is believed to refer to a being controlled by or equated with the Antichrist, whereas some scholars (for example, the editors of the Oxford & Harper Collins translations) contend the number is probably code for Roman Emperor Nero.
For more on 666..616...618...888 etcetera, see: http://www.answers.com/topic/number-of-the-beast-1 http://www.math.harvard.edu/~elkies/mp666.html http://www.bibletexts.com/qa/qa035.htm http://maxmagnusnorman.com/english/about_the_number_of_the_beast_666.shtml ------------------
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posted April 24, 2007 04:13 PM
Fayte, I disagree with you...and Linda explained it in Gooberz with a diagram
in Canto Twenty...OverSoul is your TrueS-elf
in Heaven...we are here in a shell, body temple...you can think whatever you want, you can make
me look like I M possessed if you want....
makes no difference to me...
I know the Truth, and that is all that Matters...Over Mind, MOM.... you complicate things, and cause chaos
it's all Simple, comes from no book
comes from within
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posted April 24, 2007 10:05 PM
Hi fayte. m that was a great interpetion of Johns' revelation. I wonder if it truth
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posted April 24, 2007 11:35 PM
Are each of those pictures enhanced, would they appear the same, with the naked eye, naked truth. ...????IP: Logged |
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posted April 24, 2007 11:36 PM
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posted April 25, 2007 01:35 AM
Thanks BrightStar  quote:
Hi fayte. m that was a great interpetion of Johns' revelation. I wonder if it truth
Well...it is at least a rational theory; Occam's Razor...K.I.S.S.  ------------------
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posted April 25, 2007 01:39 AM
Lotus I can only go by my own personal experiences;
not yours,
nor Linda's.
So you do your thing;
and I will continue to do mine,and continue questioning things.
Additionally do not deify Linda and tout her as the absolute author of absolute truth!
That is NOT what she wanted!
Linda's own words on the matter of "her personal rules and truths",
which many have taken to heart as Linda's way is the only way!
That is NOT what Linda said!
xxxviii  INTRODUCTION
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Neither should you blindly accept, on your quest for truth,
the validity of the star sign codes of the Universe I offer in this book-until you have practiced and carefully tested each one, so that you can decide for yourself rather than take my word for it.
To continue, in Linda's own words:
xl INTRODUCTION
quote:
However, I do not ask-nor do I even expect-any of you to regard my concepts as your truth, unless they should happen to agree with your own personal enlightenment and private convictions.
Concerning truth:
INTRODUCTION xli
quote:
But real Truth can be found in one place only-in every man's and woman's communion with an eternal Source of hidden Knowledge within-which each individual must seek and find for himself or herself.
I do not believe that Linda had intended for any of us to set her up high upon a pedestal and worship her blindly nor even agree with her or follow her way, her path. 
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posted April 25, 2007 01:42 AM
You didn't answer my question....are the photographs enhanced? I guess, no answer means, yes they are.... and, are not like what John would have seen...? IP: Logged |
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posted April 25, 2007 01:53 AM
As far as I know they are not enhanced.
I have seen such views from a plane
and heliocopter personally.
They seem right to me.
Any such view of electric lights
and all would bedazzle poor primitive
John and even Nostradamus,
enhanced or not.
These errors in perception are not
a new idea.
The 15th century Native American was fooled
by men on horses and thought they were Gods.
I am simply theorizing.
Good nite for now Lotus.
And remember...there are always different ways of looking at things.
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posted April 25, 2007 01:59 AM
oh yes, like the 12 gates of the Zodiac, leading to the Mastership 13 with GOD....Bringing Heaven on Earth...
Mind in Body Temple to OverSoul in Heaven
as above so below
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posted April 25, 2007 08:55 AM
 http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=truth&searchmode=none
For the complete etymologies plus archaisms please see above fasinating link!
truth
O.E. triewð (W.Saxon), treowð (Mercian) "faithfulness, quality of being true," from triewe, treowe "faithful" (see true). Meaning "accuracy, correctness" is from 1570. Unlike lie (v.), there is no primary verb in Eng. for "speak the truth." Noun sense of "something that is true" is first recorded c.1362.
"Let [Truth] and Falsehood grapple; who ever knew Truth put to the worse, in a free and open encounter." [Milton, "Areopagitica," 1644]
Truth squad in U.S. political sense first attested 1952. Truthiness "act or quality of preferring concepts or facts one wishes to be true, rather than those known to be true," catch word popularized in this sense by U.S. comedian Stephen Colbert, declared by American Dialect Society to be "2005 Word of the Year."
Synonyms: fact, certainty, reality, actuality, veracity, verity
Antonym: untruth
Synonyms: reality, fact, accuracy, genuineness, precision, exactness, legitimacy, veracity, truthfulness
Antonym: untruthfulness
Synonyms: honesty, candour, integrity, dedication, loyalty, devotion, fidelity, uprightness, sincerity
Antonym: dishonesty
 ~truth~ http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=truth&searchmode=none
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posted June 04, 2007 08:14 AM
With so much talk of end times and misinterpretations by ancient and now modern so called seers,
taking it as read, assuming that the prophets and seers of the past knew what they had picked up.
Well that is not actually proven to be true.
I am bumping this to show there are other ways to look at these things.
When one gets a vision etcetera one must endeavor, if they are going to tell, to tell what they got only,
NOT what they hope, think, or desire it to be. Report straight up only the vision etcetera.
But even then it can be tainted by preconceptions and imagination.
A Buddhist and a Christian for example may have the same exact Vision or dream, or channeling, whatever.
But if they allow their beliefs to flavor the experience, the same vision will in the retelling not be the same.
And again I point out, the ancient doomsayers and prophets were operating from a time before electricity,
planes, helicopters, and other things of our times. How could they possibly understand a vision of the future?
Be it a phophetic vision, a channeling, or a reading; be aware of what you actually got and not what you think.
In the movie "The Messenger" Jean De Arc finds a sword in a field.
Her fantasies drive her to believing it is a sword that came down amidst angelic voices and clouds of glory,
just for her to fight her holy war.
As the messianic character tells her,(paraphrased) Jean, why do you lie? Jean goes on to emotionally insist
on her point of view while this character keeps telling her, no, no, and no Jean,
sometimes a sword is just a sword, and goes on to show her the other ways to explain the presence
of a sword laying in a field. Shades of Occam's Razor there! "K.I.S.S"!
My interpretations are my theoritical viewpoints and not proof either.
But I am attempting to view the old prophecies and visions logically, asking myself, but what else could it all be?
THE ABOVE POSTS FROM ME ARE MY THEORIES,
NOT FACTS ABSOLUTE.
I AM NOT ASKING ANYONE TO BELIEVE IN MY THEORIES.
THEORIES ARE FOR CONSIDERATION ONLY,
NOT TO BE TAKEN AS EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE.
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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
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posted June 11, 2007 04:04 PM
Very interesting interpretations, fayte.m. I have yet to completely digest them, but one thing did come to my mind while I was reading. Would Nostradamus have known what a wooly mammoth was and that it was from Siberia / Mongolia? From present day perspective, knowledge about a wooly mammoth is common place, I just wonder how common place it might or might not have been in his time.------------------
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posted June 20, 2007 03:07 AM
the ancient spiritual sciences were integrated into holistic systems taught by the use of arcane, metaphorical symbolism understood only by initiates......the book of revelation is so blatantly full of such symbolism and metaphor nested within each other......i can hardly believe anyone would think the author had a 'primitive mind' or that he 'couldnt think symbolically'.....perhaps you should read the entire book of revelation again fayte.....i think mannu's interpretation is much closer.....
as above, so below.... 
it could be you, fayte, to be the one coloring what he wrote with your own presuppositions.....relating what he wrote to your own occult practices of 'obe' or 'psychic visions'
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