posted September 20, 2005 12:31 AM         

Fayte... I'd be interested in hearing your take on the whole Virgin Birth thang.

I'll give mine first... maybe that will help you to feel more comfortable sharing your views.

(And please remember, I don't care if we disagree... I like hearing alternate thoughts. Hearing things from another perspective often probes thoughts I wouldn't have otherwise had. I like having my thoughts probed. )

Ok... so I have a very hard time buying into the whole Virgin Birth scenario.

It wasn't at all uncommon at the time for such a young girl get married/and or pregnant. It is easier for me to believe this young lady got herself into this situation, and saw no way out of it but to say that it was an immaculate conception to spare herself the scorn and social ostracizing that was sure to result in her admitting her big mistake.

posted September 20, 2005 12:40 AM         

yeah, I agree.

Just thinking of the name "Hundred Year War"
makes me sick, sick , sick! and over so little, comparable to what could be out there now.

I told you guys my husbands family think I'll be in hell. I tried to have a conversation with my sis-in-law, I was not trying to say anything other than interpretation can change a lot. She immediatley said, I am just where the lord wants me. How could you not even look? Baffles me...

posted September 21, 2005 11:47 PM         

I have been on the Tomb of Jesus site and found a Hag...?? site that is great. Now reading the GTh. Very facinating. Thanks for the great links.

My husband reminded me that when we first met and were discussing religion, that I said I believed Jesus walked the earth, but was not what Christianity made him out to be. I am still searching, and loving every minute of it. Thanks for opening up! I have really enjoyed your views.

posted September 22, 2005 12:17 AM         

is too much

we already have the answers within

just ask for guidance

So much confusion

We must believe in ourselves

and God

posted September 22, 2005 12:34 AM         

You were there too!

That's why his story has so
intrigued
US
for in reality
You KNow
I KNow
WE KNow
You SEE
me too!

posted September 22, 2005 12:44 AM         

Did anyone study the mystic poet Kabir? He was really something. When he died his hindu followers wanted to cremate him, while the muslims wanted to bury him. He made it easy by leaving basil leaves behind instead of his body. Well don't know how much is true. Thought I will share.

Heres one of my favourite of his. Enjoy..

quote:

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Where do you search me?
I am with you
Not in pilgrimage, nor in icons
Neither in solitudes
Not in temples, nor in mosques
Neither in Kaba nor in Kailash
I am with you o man
I am with you
Not in prayers, nor in meditation
Neither in fasting
Not in yogic exercises
Neither in renunciation
Neither in the vital force nor in the body
Not even in the ethereal space
Neither in the womb of Nature
Not in the breath of the breath
Seek earnestly and discover
In but a moment of search
Says Kabir, Listen with care
Where your faith is, I am there.
- Kabir

---

Heres another :

quote:

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What is seen is not the Truth
What *is* cannot be said
Trust comes not without seeing
Nor understanding without words
The wise comprehends with knowledge
To the ignorant it is but a wonder
Some worship the formless God
Some worship His various forms
In what way He is beyond these attributes
Only the Knower knows
That music cannot be written
How can then be the notes
Says Kabir, awareness alone will overcome illusion

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posted September 22, 2005 02:15 AM         

You beautiful soul you, you have grown so quickly, I admire you, for you seek the Truth, and it is revealed to you.
You are Love and Light, a wonderful example, and I have learned much from you.
Thank-You.

Planet Soul,
Thy religion, thy truth is within you, no need of church, the universe is working with us, your friend, saw
a perception
she was not, will not perceive
what you SEE
And thanks for sharing, for with every story set forth, we shall learn more.

posted September 22, 2005 12:22 PM         

Are you suffering from premature........senility LOL