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Topic: Lord Rama Exist ?????
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anhalak
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From: hell of heart
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted September 18, 2007 01:17 AM
 
As per new controversy in india
What u ppl think about Lord Rama .
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yourfriendinspirit
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posted September 18, 2007 02:22 AM
anhalak, I see that you are new to the forums.
So first let me say Hello and offer you a warm  I'm not real educated on this subject you speak of...
Would you like to share a bit more?
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Ohhhh, you are not new "Jul 2007" just not a big poster.... Hee..heee.. 
Anyways, nice to meet you!
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anhalak
Knowflake Posts: 24
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posted September 18, 2007 06:07 AM
thanks for ur warm welcome
u r right i am not new ,i am reading al these stuff since jan 2006 but did not join u ppl.
If ur question of shraing knowledge was about Lord Ram then i wuld love to tell u that Ram was incarnation of Lord Vishnu like krishna (i hope u are aware about LOrd Vishnu ).NOw indian govt claming that there is no such entity like RamIP: Logged |
yourfriendinspirit
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posted September 18, 2007 06:22 AM
Oh, I see
Lord Ram is said to be the incarnation of Lord Vishnu like krishna.
Now your government denies there is any such entity?What does this do for your faith? *Our u.s. government often denies fact in order to control it's people. Is your the same?
Things that are "True" in your heart will guide you regardless of; if others believe. Faith is a powerful thing! Edited to add:
I just now read this article about the incarnation of Vishnu and Hindu deity.
If you are interested click here: Rama
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anhalak
Knowflake Posts: 24
From: hell of heart
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted September 18, 2007 06:28 AM
well said What does this do for your faith?
i dont have faith i have only weight 
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Solane Star
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posted September 18, 2007 07:33 AM
Too Funny!!!!
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anhalak
Knowflake Posts: 24
From: hell of heart
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posted September 18, 2007 07:49 AM
yourfriendinspirit
wikipedia is not right place to get info because they are using word Hero which is absolutely wrong ,(Might possible u will understand).
Hero and diety ,incarnation are different put ur brain,In India ppl live around religion in web of Dharma their lives are well knitted in thread of faith not in believe
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SattvicMoon
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posted September 18, 2007 08:26 AM
Let me not go into the details of the political-religion nexus here for the sake of sanity. India is a crazy place with pseudo-secular money minded political parties taking their toll on the great richness and culture of this country. The government is run by agents who are responsible to tear apart this country, and we all know it - but politically manipulated common people fail to realize. Divide and rule is the policy adapted by British and successfully imparted by the million political parties here - so much for "demo-crazy". It is all about votes people, I forsee a major upheavel in this country in the near future where the majority are percecuted.Period. ------------------
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Mannu
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posted September 18, 2007 09:50 AM
Well Vishnu's incarnation seems to me like evolution of creatures of God.Rama being the seventh. I think he taught how to be just and moral in your duties as a son and as a king. It does not matter whether he exists or not, does it? What matters is did that story inspire you be in his state or even excel him.
Everythings a dream anyways. I think theres a place in Rameshwari where physical evidence exists. Also, did you ever wonder why Tulsi's Ramayana is the best remembered ? Hope that helps. IP: Logged |
yourfriendinspirit
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posted September 18, 2007 12:21 PM
Very nice Would anyone care to post a link or two.
Apparently this girl needs an education over here, LOL! 
Sending Love To You,
Your Friend In Spirit
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SattvicMoon
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posted September 18, 2007 12:24 PM
link about what SpiritFriend?------------------
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yourfriendinspirit
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posted September 18, 2007 12:33 PM
The succession of incarnations,
The teachings,
The process in which this is taught.
Is this taught in your homes, churches, and or schools?
How (or) rather why, does the governments opinion matter?
moonie *edited to add:
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As per new controversy in india
Why is this NEW, what has changed?
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SattvicMoon
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posted September 18, 2007 12:48 PM
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The succession of incarnations,
http://www.punditravi.com/dasavtar__the_10_incarnations_of.htm quote:
The teachings,
This is going to be a vast subject as such, but you can google out Ramayana (on Sree Rama), Mahabharatha (on Sree Krishna). There are other scriptures too..... quote:
The process in which this is taught.
It was basically a family/social set-up which has transfered the knowledge from the ages, but the modern day "changes" have made things worse. The large families are broken up and everyone are behind money and comfort, so the transference of the knowledge have suffered. Moreover, the education system was formulated by the invading british forces since more than 300 years here, and the effects are so profound. I do not want to go more into this, since it might as well get into some bashing. People will never really understand the true situation unless you be here in India and understand. quote:
Is this taught in your homes, churches, and or schools?
The temples and the art forms associted have been so rish and wise, but then again, the "modernity" have degenerated everything. The government have direct control over Hindu temples and everything is curtailed for political causes not for the spread of wisdom or well being of the people. quote:
How (or) rather why, does the governments opinion matter?
The government want to destroy a structure that exist from India to Sri Lanka, which is supposed to be a bridge built at the time of Lord Sree Ram. Even NASA have verified this structure have have mentioned that it is not a natural formation, and is man made, and is supposed to be around 172000 years in age. Now - roughly transalating the period in which Ramayana (the story of Lord Sri Rama) happened, surprisingly coincides with NASA's findings.
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quote:As per new controversy in indiaWhy is this NEW, what has changed?
This is "new" because the conversion attempts are so rampant here and the means by which they do it is insane - with political support, because the minorities are appeased here. Again - I will not tell anything more on the political aspect of things, but India sure is an insane place. ------------------
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yourfriendinspirit
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posted September 18, 2007 01:53 PM
Wow, Now that was very infomative!
Thank you I love your energy Moonie...  <-me absorbing, LOL!
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The government have direct control over Hindu temples and everything is curtailed for political causes not for the spread of wisdom or well being of the people.... *look of SHOCK
I tend to forget how blessed we really are here in America...
Government and Religion are separate enities.
Here we have "freedom of choice" in Religion. [beliefs and actions]
I tend to take this for granted and assume other countries also do. Sending Lot's Of Love To You!
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SattvicMoon
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posted September 18, 2007 01:55 PM
Government and Religion are two seperte things in the case of all other religions but in the case of Hindhuism, it is a government controlled entity because of the money involved. One touch on the Muslim or Christian institutions brings in international hue and cry it is simple.This is a very serious (flamable) subject which I shall keep away from. As I believe - religion is the bane and spirituality is alone the safe bet. ------------------
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yourfriendinspirit
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posted September 18, 2007 02:06 PM
Incredible information, really...
I had no idea!I truely appreciate the education on this matter. *I'm sorry it's so sensitive. I think I have even more respect towards Hinduism now. quote:
As I believe - religion is the bane and spirituality is alone the safe bet.
Very well said! We think quite alike here  IP: Logged |
anhalak
Knowflake Posts: 24
From: hell of heart
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted September 19, 2007 12:42 AM
Sattavic Moon
It not only about india i hope u can recall war of crusade ,100 year war of religion
Second YOu know y still india exist only because of this religion Thirdly A statement by Indian Politican ONLY "REligion is full time politics & politics is shoort time religion" Mannu
It does not matter whether he exists or not, does it? It matters look around u , your reletions exist that y u r alive .in HInduism we have different way of prayer in which one known as Dasya Bhav inwhich one dedicate his-self to his Master .
If u need more clarification then read Biography of Swami Ramkrishna Pramhans published by Ramkrishna Math ,It will give u a crystal clear image of existence and non-existence of diety/lord/master IP: Logged |
Solane Star
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Registered: Jun 2005
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posted September 19, 2007 09:20 AM
I Love You Moonie!!! 
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Mannu
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posted September 19, 2007 08:23 PM
Anhalak,
i have a tough time understanding what u write.
Ok. the thing is spiritualism and politics never go hand in hand. whenever the government is involved theres been red tape and bureaucricy.
So I am assuming that for ur spiritual development u want to pray to Ram as a deity. Well go ahead and pray. Are u praying thru his idols? Only ur faith is required to pray , no other qualitification. So why bother what the government is thinking? Your action is going to be an obstacle for you.
May u find what u seek!!! IP: Logged |
anhalak
Knowflake Posts: 24
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posted September 20, 2007 12:02 AM
Mannu U r absolutely right !!!!!!!!11IP: Logged |
yourfriendinspirit
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posted September 20, 2007 04:23 AM
Resolution is a beautiful thing! ------------------
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SattvicMoon
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posted September 20, 2007 08:35 AM
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Only ur faith is required to pray , no other qualitification. So why bother what the government is thinking? Your action is going to be an obstacle for you.
Mannu, you are right with the faith thing, and that is why being a majority, Hindus are the percecuted lot in this country called India. Political nexus has managed to take the majority to the extreme where every other person feels cornered, feels trapped - because of the pseudo-philosophy that has been followed. It is the common man who practices what is preached that is in the ruts now, whereas the political big brothers are having a wonderful time - again, I am limiting my words because it might get into a flaming situation, and only for people who are probably living in India and perhaps giving a throught to some of the political-religious scenario here can understand much of what I might be discussing as well. ------------------
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anhalak
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posted September 20, 2007 08:55 AM
sattiv moon
u have a good approah to decipher this matter but it is more then this ,as much i understood by ur statement u r pointing out politics to surge religion in a bad shape .u r right Sir !
It was too good to exchange words with u
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SattvicMoon
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posted September 20, 2007 08:59 AM
I agree it is more than this, (read the rich Thorium deposits in the Ram Setu area, which would be completely destroyed, the natural richness of that area, the terrorism and LTTE who needs an easy access to transport explozives by destroying this bridge that is hindering their free movement, and then again the sick politicians who want to make mney and votes out of all these crisis and supporting the terrorism in Sri Lanka as well)hahaha ------------------
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let ther b light
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From: bombay, india
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted September 21, 2007 08:18 AM
"The government want to destroy a structure that exist from India to Sri Lanka, which is supposed to be a bridge built at the time of Lord Sree Ram. Even NASA have verified this structure have have mentioned that it is not a natural formation, and is man made, and is supposed to be around 172000 years in age. Now - roughly transalating the period in which Ramayana (the story of Lord Sri Rama) happened, surprisingly coincides with NASA's findings."hey anhalak
actually the NASA HAS DENIED that the interpretation of the photographs used is theirs...here is the news article..
http://www.punjabilok.com/science/nasa_debunks.htm
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