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Topic: The Real "Our Father" in Aramaic
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jackiep
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From: Rio de janeiro, Brazil
Registered: May 2002
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posted September 17, 2002 02:28 PM
 
"OUR FATHER" - ARAMAIC
It is from this prayer that derived the current version of "Our Father", the ecumenical prayer of ISSA (Jesus ).
It's is written in aramaic, in a white stone of marble, in Jerusalem , in the Monte of the Olive trees, in the form that was invoked by Master Jesus.
The aramaic was an original language of High Mesopotamia, and the language used by the people of the area. Jesus always spoke to the people in aramaic.
The direct translation of the aramaic for the English, (without the interference of the Church), show us how this prayer is beautiful, deep and true, in keeping with Master Jesus.
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" Our Father/Our Mother, breathing of the Life,
Source of the sound, Action without words,
Creator of the Cosmos!
Make your Light shine inside of us,
among us and out of us
so that we can turn it useful.
Help us to follow our road,
Just breathing the feeling that emanates from YOU.
Ours ME, in the same step, may be with Yours,
so that we walk as Kings and Queens
With all the other creatures.
That Yours and our desire, be only one,
in the whole Light, as well as in all the forms,
in all individual existence,
as well as in all the communities.
Make us feel the soul of the Earth inside of us,
because, like this, we will feel the Wisdom that exists in everything.
Don't allow that the superficiality
and the appearance of the things of the world deceives us,
And free us of all that that
impedes our growth. Don't let us be taken by the forgetfulness
that You are the Power and the Glory of the world,
the Song that rejuvenates from times to times
and that to everything beautifies.
May YOUR love be the soil
where increases our actions.
Amen!!!
------------------------------------------- "*Abwoon d'bashmaia
Netcádash shimóch
Tetê malcutách Una
Nehuê tcevianách aicana
d'bashimáia af b'arha
Hôvlan lácma d'suncanán
Iaomána
Uashbocan háubein uahtehin
Aicána dáf quinan shbuocán
L'haiabéin
Uêla tahlan l'nesiúna.
Êla patssan min bíxa
Metúl dilahie malcutá
Uaháila
Uateshbúcta láhlám.
ALMÍN. " *Abwoon in aramaic means "Our Father", but can also be translated as "Our Mother". IP: Logged |
juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted September 17, 2002 06:46 PM
jackiep, It is beautiful  I just received the Lamsa bible; a translatiom from the Aramaic (Syriac) of the Peshitta. I absolutely love it and am reading it like a new book.  It makes so much more sense to me and I can actually feel the words rather than decipher the meaning.
Thank you for the prayer 
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Enrique
Knowflake Posts: 496
From: Mexico city, Mexico
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted September 17, 2002 09:50 PM
Jackie!!! Thanks for sharing such a treasure!!! where did you find it?It's a really beautiful prayer..., maybe the most beautiful I've ever seen...
"Make us feel the soul of the Earth inside us..." WOW!!!!!!
  :fireworks:
+BE SPIRITUAL+
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theFajita
Knowflake Posts: 2007
From: Boca Raton, FL USA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted September 17, 2002 09:56 PM
Thank you so much! I loved it!IP: Logged |
jackiep
Knowflake Posts: 312
From: Rio de janeiro, Brazil
Registered: May 2002
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posted September 18, 2002 03:07 PM
Thanks juniperb 
That is the purest true,the "Bible" as we know today, cannot be read, but deciphered. However,the lesson that He left us is extremely pure and simple.
Words that can be felt since Jesus (ISSA) was pure feeling, he spoke the universal language :"Love"!
I'm glad you liked !
Jackie
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"We are not human beings trying a spiritual experience...
We are spiritual beings trying a human experience" IP: Logged |
jackiep
Knowflake Posts: 312
From: Rio de janeiro, Brazil
Registered: May 2002
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posted September 18, 2002 03:18 PM
Thank's Enrique 
I agree with you, this prayer is a treasure that a dear friend sent me and I wanted to share with you all. 
For me ,it is the most beautiful prayer that I already knew.  +Be Yours-elf+
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jackiep
Knowflake Posts: 312
From: Rio de janeiro, Brazil
Registered: May 2002
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posted September 18, 2002 03:24 PM
Thanks thefajita
I am so glad to share this prayer with you.
Your "nick" is irresistible...I just love it ! 
Jackie
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"We are not human beings trying a spiritual experience...
We are spiritual beings trying a human experience"
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theFajita
Knowflake Posts: 2007
From: Boca Raton, FL USA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted September 18, 2002 10:37 PM
Oh you are too kind!!! Thanks!!!
Do you know what? I loved this so I copied it and sent it in an email to some people at my job. Don't you know with too efficient Microsoft xp my computers memory kicked in when I was typing in the people for the email to go to and it went to a wrong person. I have always been kind to this person and helped her out and even today put her request priority. Which is fine. But she emailed her HR person and said my email was odd and why did I send it. So their HR person emailed my HR person and complained. So our HR person (I am sorry if this is confusing) emailed my boss who is on vacation to question this. And I was logging on my boss's computer and saw the email. So I immediatly emailed the woman and my HR person and explained it went to the wrong person and didn't mean to offend anyone. So my whole point is I am nervous that I am going to get into big trouble, for like, using company email or something, or for talking about prayer, I don't know. I guess whatever is meant to be is meant to be, right? OK well thanks for listening to my self propelled stupid problemo! ------------------
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juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted September 19, 2002 08:39 AM
Fajita, gosh, I`m sorry to hear about the mix-up... good ol mercury huh! 
Your intentions were good and thats the bottom line here. Please try not to worry as I believe the recipient was ment to be. I don`t know your work policy, but one would think a prayer that spiritual would touch him/her. Send out white lite and loving thoughts to both and I`ll do the same!! As I know any  reading this post will do!!
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Ra
Moderator Posts: 2086
From: Atlanta
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted September 19, 2002 10:08 AM
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jackiep
Knowflake Posts: 312
From: Rio de janeiro, Brazil
Registered: May 2002
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posted September 19, 2002 12:55 PM
Dear theFajita
I agree with juniperb, your intention was the best, you just wanted to share something that touchs you.
Therefore, I don't believe that somebody can be offended in receiving a prayer.
I am also sending,like juniperb said,a white lite and loving thoughts to both. Don't worry. 
And please,you should never forget that when we have good intentions " The Universe Conspires" to our favor, so,everything will be just fine. Take care 
Jackie
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jackiep
Knowflake Posts: 312
From: Rio de janeiro, Brazil
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posted September 19, 2002 12:58 PM
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jackiep
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posted September 19, 2002 01:01 PM
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juniperb
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posted September 20, 2002 08:45 PM
Thinking about you Fajita and wondering how all is going on the work front.
Peace, juniperb IP: Logged |
theFajita
Knowflake Posts: 2007
From: Boca Raton, FL USA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted September 20, 2002 11:20 PM
HI Jackie and Juniperb! I appreciated all the white light and love :-)To keep you guys updated, my HR had ALSO forwarded the email to my main boss, who is the president of the company, and has bigger worries going on that a prayer getting emailed. So he emailed back the HR person and let him know it was just a mistake. So I got all worried for nothing! Sometimes I do that. And I had ended up emailing the woman and apologizing as well as asking her why she didn't just reply to me to ask me what it was. She ended up being really nice about it and said she wasn't even offended by it and didn't think such a big deal would be made. Yep- that's mercury retrograde for you!!! :-)
So everything is cool now, thanks so much for listening! BTW the people i sent it to correctly all loved and it and I got so many thanks back. ------------------
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La-Tee-Da
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From: New Orleans, Louisiana
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted September 21, 2002 06:45 AM
This is indeed a very very beautiful prayer!!
I am also copying it and sending it on to my friends!!Fajita....glad things worked out for you!! I just couldn't see you getting in trouble for prayer!!! The magic of it protected you!!! Enrique....I miss you!!! ------------------
Hugs,LTD ~~The struggle keeps us young~~Daring to make mistakes and knowing there are none.~~DGM IP: Logged |
theFajita
Knowflake Posts: 2007
From: Boca Raton, FL USA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted September 21, 2002 02:37 PM
Thanks LTD. I guess I was worried because of late everyone seems to get offended by anything they don't beleive in. But I am so glad everything is OK now. ------------------
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Enrique
Knowflake Posts: 496
From: Mexico city, Mexico
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted September 21, 2002 10:02 PM
La-tee-Da..., I miss you too!!!, sorry...I'll try to make a lexi...
+BE+
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Raziel
Knowflake Posts: 10
From: Sao Paulo, Brazil
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted September 22, 2002 04:50 PM
Hi Jackiep,I was walking around the site looking for you, Enrique, Rokisha...  I noticed about the problems with the old topic "Para los qui hablan español" and also noticed that Rokisha will not be able to join the forum...anyway, I'm glad to find you here.  And what a Beautifful prayer. As Enrique said,thanks for joined with us. 
Raziel
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jackiep
Knowflake Posts: 312
From: Rio de janeiro, Brazil
Registered: May 2002
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posted September 23, 2002 05:34 PM
Hi Raziel ! Good to see you here ! As you can see, we moved, Enrique and me, but you can find us at +THE LOVE REVOLUTION+.
Great topic...at least for me 
See you there !
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Randall
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posted September 24, 2002 03:05 AM
The old Topic is now fixed! ------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
MARY
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From: Danville, IL.
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted September 24, 2002 10:14 AM
thank you so much for sharing!!!
Jackiep this is really beautiful.IP: Logged |
jackiep
Knowflake Posts: 312
From: Rio de janeiro, Brazil
Registered: May 2002
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posted September 24, 2002 03:53 PM
Thanks dear  Jackie
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jackiep
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posted September 24, 2002 03:55 PM
Thanks Mary, I'm glad you liked Jackie
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theFajita
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From: Boca Raton, FL USA
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posted September 25, 2002 11:48 PM
I feel the love!  ------------------
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