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Topic: Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
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Randall
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posted June 28, 2008 03:41 PM
 
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alma_pisces
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posted July 12, 2008 02:33 AM
"1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian."I agree with this 100 % IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 13, 2008 10:50 PM
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Beka
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posted July 17, 2008 11:15 AM
''Those who turn to deities as intermediaries between themselves and the subtle truth are like beggars who look outside themselves for the very treasure contained within their own nature. It is only after one discovers one's own divine nature that prayer or any form of worshiping the one universal life can be a true and effective spiritual cultivation of the wholeness of eternal life.''-Lao Tzu IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 19, 2008 11:52 PM
Interesting quote.------------------
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JustAmanda
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posted July 24, 2008 05:40 PM
I had a conversation not long ago with my Leo about this very sort of thing. And my take is quite simple...I believe that the Bible holds a lot of contradictions...I believe that it was written and written again..and again..and so on and so on...to the point where it's message has been a tad misconstrued. However, I think it's a great tool and guide IF used correctly. I believe in a Higher Power...sometimes when I say God/Jesus it pains me because I have this nagging in my mind that says how can something/one you've never seen before love me/help me/guide me?But then it brings me back to something so simple as Lindaland..I've never met any of you, yet I read what you type and I take your advice sometimes..I appreciate it..I ponder it..I disagree at times...so what's the difference in me reading a post here and reading the Bible? Someone, somewhere wrote it right? It's up to ME and me only to decide if I want to believe it. That said, I find that just having a personal relationship with Jesus is a comfort to me...example...many times in my life I've come to what I believed to be the end of my life's rope and I just can't bear one more thing on my cross to carry...and I have cried and sobbed and cried until I thought my eyes would pop out of my head and I've prayed and asked Jesus to comfort me...each and every time this has happened, I've had a calm to wash over me, that quiets my mind, my soul, my heart, my mouth...I am usually exhausted after these events, and I rest, quite well actually. And I wake the next day to find that all is calm in my soul..and whatever has been bothering me gets taken care of and usually not by my own doings. So...I like to envision myself a child in Christ, and I lay my head in his loving, caring lap while I cry my eyes out and tell him all that is wrong with me. And somehow I muster the courage and faith to keep going in life and the new day brings forth new beginnings... I mean, that's what religions are about anyway right? New beginnings in one's life... IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 25, 2008 09:05 PM
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D for Defiant
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posted October 31, 2008 01:25 AM
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Mannu
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posted October 31, 2008 05:59 AM
>>>Science is not the only true religion as one of you saidThats a flawed statement. More later.
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posted October 31, 2008 10:56 PM
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posted October 31, 2008 10:56 PM
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posted November 03, 2008 09:18 PM
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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted November 12, 2008 01:21 AM
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8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
This is the funniest one.  Seriously, how can we get every fundie in the world to read that "letter to the president"? What the heck do they even say when they encounter those passages? Its all too stupid for words. IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted November 12, 2008 07:04 AM
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Seriously, how can we get every fundie in the world to read that "letter to the president"?What the heck do they even say when they encounter those passages? Its all too stupid for words.
LOL!
Replies the fundies have given me when I point out such insanity:
1.The Old Testament does not count.
2.The New Testament is the real Holy Bible.
3.The Old Testament is for Jews and the New Testament for non Jews.
4.Your copy of the Bible must have misprints in it.
5.You lie! That's not in mine!
6.Those were laws for the old days, not for modern times.
7.My pastor said only worry about the New Testament and accepting Jesus as my personal saviour.
8.Jews wrote the Old Testament.
9.That is in the Bible???!!!!!!
10.I have read the entire Bible! You are a liar! That is not in it!
11.Must be the Catholic version.
12.Must be the Baptist version.
13.God changed the rules after Jesus came.
14.It's a sin to question the great and merciful wisdom of The Lord's words!
15.God's words are mysterious, it does not mean that.
16.Go to Hell you (choose one)heathen, sinner,liar,pagan,witch,Satan wh-re,you are evil,you're crazy.
17.Saying bad things are in God's good book is a sin.
18.Satan wrote those things to confuse and deceive us.
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Mannu
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posted November 12, 2008 09:36 AM
Hopefully a Obama legacy for 4 years will give time for conservatives to rethink their faith and not push their president to ban abortion 
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Got Gemini?
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posted February 25, 2009 10:32 PM
LEXX, great stuff!------------------
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LEXX
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posted February 25, 2009 10:56 PM
Got Gemini? 
Thank you!
Did you read page one of this thread too?
I got a kick out of the "bush" thing I posted, IP: Logged |
Got Gemini?
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posted February 25, 2009 11:37 PM
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Randall
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posted February 27, 2009 03:04 PM
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LEXX
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posted February 27, 2009 03:29 PM
It is funny , but creepy too ,
because I have indeed heard such insanity and twisted outlook statements from the fundies.  ------------------
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TINK
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posted February 27, 2009 07:04 PM
I've had an issue with fundementalism for a long time. Any sort of fundementalism - Christian, Pagan, Jewish, Islamic, New Age, even that odd brand of Atheistic fundementalism. It all scares me and I'm not sure I'll ever get over the fear. Lexx, the fear of what you called that "twisted outlook", the point when the believer seems unreasonable to me, where his actions might follow suit. I don't think I ever really got over reading The Handmaiden's Tale. The Iranian hostage story being the first political event I remember didn't help. I tried everything - allowing myself feelings of mental superiority, making fun of them, ignoring them. That poor unsuspecting Jehovah's Witness who had the misfortune to knock on my apartment door years ago. How valiantly I tried to give him a little intellectual chiropractic treatment. The arrogance, huh! Observing undiluted belief in another person can sure be unnerving. In our modern, secular, science loving society faith is somehow suspect. We tolerate the believer only when he goes quietly about his business, politely keeping his idiosyncrasy to himself. Sunday morning Christians. Modern liberal Moslems. Closet Pagans. Profess a little true blue faith and risk riducule, hate and fear. Science is the only religion left allowed its true believers. I have come to sort of respect fundementalists for one thing though. It's not just entertaining theoretical talk for them. They follow through, unplagued by questions and doubt. I've found willpower to be a somewhat rare personality trait these days. thanks for the topic and thoughts, vdi and lexx IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted February 27, 2009 07:26 PM
TINK
I totally agree, the fundie outlook is found in any dogmatic system and that includes atheism too.
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I have come to sort of respect fundementalists for one thing though. It's not just entertaining theoretical talk for them. They follow through, unplagued by questions and doubt. I've found willpower to be a somewhat rare personality trait these days.
Ahhh...I cannot agree completely there. What I see is too often displays of fear and they are often plagued by questions and doubt. That is why opposing views make many of them angry and many want desperately to convert others to their way. It brings out their doubts and fears that they may be wrong.
I see alot of hope and denial, not a comfortable knowing there.IP: Logged |
TINK
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posted February 27, 2009 08:35 PM
Oh I agree - its absolutely not a "comfortable knowing (very nice way of saying it btw) and I think you're right that there's a ton of self doubt buried very deep within for them, the same as the rest of us. Otherwise, as you said, we wouldn't run into that so often displayed defensiveness. Its the actions. There's a kind of directness to them. We civilized, seculurized folk are so used to questioning ourselves. We hesitate and apologize and shuffle our feet, yk? I sometimes envy that old world style purpose. Look at all those Moslems circling th Kabbah, or Orthodox Jews swaying back and forth at the Weeping Wall. That's passion. Remember the Vietnamese Buddhist monks setting themselves on fire? I'm at once turned off and intrigued by someone willing to put their money where their mouth is to such a degree.IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted February 27, 2009 09:03 PM
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Its the actions. There's a kind of directness to them. We civilized, seculurized folk are so used to questioning ourselves. We hesitate and apologize and shuffle our feet, yk?
I know what you mean. Yet I feel believing blindly is worse than doing as I do and leaving it all to theorizing until empirical evidence is found. I am comfortable with a what if understanding that is flexible and has no issue with change. Is the directness you speak of a true believing/knowing, or a form of societal/religious brainwashing control and a heavy indoctrination with threats of punishment by parents, society and even by god(s)? Is it fear or true blind faith that cause them to appear simply devout? I still see under such, intense deep seated fear societal/religious and or threat of divine punishment. quote:
I sometimes envy that old world style purpose. Look at all those Moslems circling th Kabbah, or Orthodox Jews swaying back and forth at the Weeping Wall. That's passion. Remember the Vietnamese Buddhist monks setting themselves on fire?
Yes, I see your point but is it passion or fear driving them? quote:
I'm at once turned off and intrigued by someone willing to put their money where their mouth is to such a degree.
I wonder though how many truly believe and how many like I said, are afraid of divine punishment, or expecting divine reward for being martyrs, because of intense brainwashing and indoctrination, not a true conscious choice.
Is it; "someone willing to put their money where their mouth is to such a degree"?
Or is it their societal/religious/ even childhood indoctrination/not a choice, "programming" that drives them, and not truly their soul or meta-self?
I hope that all made sense.IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted March 07, 2009 06:18 PM
"can't get behind the christian church, i mean a guy on a cross, that's a helluva logo. no wonder they're losing their audience!!" ...keith richardsIP: Logged |
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