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LEXX
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posted July 31, 2008 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure where this thread belong as the subject matter concerns a blend of religion, theory, God, LORD, spirits, angels, souls....and more.

It began here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/000297.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/000297-2.html
PeaceAngel wanted to continue the discussion.

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LEXX

i would really like to talk with you about your beliefs some time if you're open to it and another thread. i'm fascinated by what other people believe and am deeply interested in yours. i'd like to understand how you believe in god but not god's spiritual beings - like, how do you discern the two - and does that include people too as we are spiritual beings and also god as god is a spiritual being - as it comes across to me that you may believe that all spirits (and their representation as orbs, lights, etc) are negative. anyway, that's some of it - but, of course, up to you if you would like to. anyway, thanks.


My reply:

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I do not believe all spirits are malicious/negative. However there are souls who are in an ego delusion who actually think they are guides.
LOL!
If I have not written about Flow I will later.
I will post at DD in the future.
Thanks for your interest. However much I will not speak of because it will be in a few books we hope to publish.
As to God's spiritual beings, do you mean Lord or the true God?
God's helpers do not put on a fancy show for starters, nor promise, bribe, threaten , or get angry when interrogated.

PeaceAngel replied:

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LEXX

do you mean that you think that everyone who believes in spirit guides are operating from ego delusion?

and by terminology lord or true god are you suggesting that one is a false god and that there is only one god by your personal definition of him/her/it?

and by god's helpers do you mean human helpers?

i understand your reasons for not wishing to discuss certain things in the forums because of your hope/dream to be published. and i wish you well with that.

my definition of "god's spiritual beings" is everything - all creations of god - in their spiritual and material forms - human beings, animals, aliens, spirits, angels and god - and all those other things that i wouldn't have the awareness that exist in other places so can't name or define. everyone. i believe everyone is an equal child of god, without exception.

when you start using the expression god you come into some difficult territory because there are differing beliefs as to what that means and how it is intended and the possibilities are infinite. and it doesn't make any of them less wrong or right than any other. i agree that servers of god do not force their own ego upon others and that it is done by purity of intention - but then - that has to come from somewhere too and be communicated to someone in some way so isn't that a form of spiritual guidance? so is that an ego delusion too? otherwise how does god talk to you and you to god? do you see yourself as one of god's helpers - and if so - is having a book published putting on a fancy show? and also, if as a server of true god you have been given or channelled or whatever some special information that is useful to others that comes from true god - then why not share it freely for the benefit of all - rather than wait for a publishing contract? isn't that from ego too?

so....... these are my thoughts, questions for you. i seek to understand - i'm always full of questions, especially when someone sees the world so differently to any way i perceive it. i think it's one of the best ways to learn. it's fascinating that we can live in the same place yet experience a different world simply through how we see it and live in it. it's just ....fascinating.


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LEXX

one more question. that inner voice - whether it be a feeling, knowing, an actual voice in your head - however your conscience or soul or higher self or even god communicates to you - is that ego too? if not, how do you define it? and then, how is it different to any other guide or guidance that comes from god?

EDIT: LOL - i do realise that turned out to be more than one question.


I replied:

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PeaceAngel...
when published I will not use my real name.
I have absolutely no desire to be known.
The money is also not for myself.
As to my communing with God..that is personal and it is doubtful I shall write of it as
NDW did. And yes...read my posts in DD....I do theorize there having been two (or more) entities who were called God. For example The True God(Reactor/reaction/creator/creation) illustrated badly and metaphorically in First Genesis and The blind God who called himself LORD, in the second chapter of Genesis with his Eden ZOO.
I suggest we both cut and paste this dialogue to a thread at DD.
I will begin one now.

Some things to ponder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallels_between_Gautama_Buddha_and_Jesus
http://buddha-christ.info/similarities.html
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myS-elf13
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posted July 31, 2008 12:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how apropo this post is at this time:

i emailed my reiki mentor about some of the same questions peaceangel has. i have been meditating lately to "free" my mind/ego and let in TRUTH. i am at a point in my life where there is no space for delusion.

delusion has been a large lesson for me. ego has been a lesson. life is a lesson. sorting out the TRUTH from the non is my biggest challenge. this is where i am hoping meditation and other guidance can aid me.

thanks for this post LEXX.

many blessings

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Unmoved
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posted July 31, 2008 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am one of those people that get some sort of guidance but it comes through dreams and feelings. People do not come to me for help, I go to them. It makes things uneasy because often they haven't asked for my help but I feel that their higher selves speak with mine, and then I get used as a conduit.

So, I don't charge because noone asked for my help consciously. and also requests for my help are useless because I'm not in charge of when I get messages.

obviously something bigger than me is in charge here because I don't do anything to switch it on and off. It just comes.

To my understanding, I feel that I get contacted by something that is part of me. This thing that is part of me speaks to other people's parts. Like, for example, without the combschous knowledge of my client, their spiritual representative contacts my rep. My rep makes me dream. I contact the person after dreaming of them. And the dream stops.

when I speak to the person I literally feel what they are feeling. I get images of their situation. I get cryptic clues as to what I should tell them. Something shows me this because how would I know what's happening in their lives? Also, everyone I help always comes into my life weirdly and then Bam! So, something helps me.

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Unmoved
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posted July 31, 2008 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To add. These helpers don't show themselves to me. It feels like instincts so when I see things I get confused because I don't know I am seeing. It could be my guide showing himself but it could be an imposter. So, how does one know if it is a guide or not because those that visit are sometimes not too nice.

I could be afraid of the unknown or I could be afraid because it is evil. How does one tell?

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ListensToTrees
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posted August 07, 2008 09:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting. I am very fascinated by all of this.

I wonder whether the experience I had as a child of love/light after asking for protection due to knightmeres, strange feelings, etc....I wonder if this was from something good or bad? It felt good, though I wish I had been able to hold onto the feeling for longer and find out more from it....

But perhaps it was just some malevolent force that wanted to pave the way for me to eventually get sucked into religion? (My parents met in the Mormon Church but I wasn't brought up in it....my mother and brothers started going again when I was 13, when missionaries came and I was interested).

Still, I've always believed since then that protection is there if you ask for it...and that there's no need to be afraid...and that life somehow...probably does have some meaning behind it.

But if I'm perfectly honest....there are always times where I am just never sure...of anything.

*I was about 6 years old when I had the prayer experience.

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posted August 11, 2008 10:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent topic!

Thanks for posting, Lexx

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ListensToTrees
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posted August 21, 2008 08:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Updated:

I think the experience I had when I was little was of a positive nature...it gave me the knowing that the true God is pure Love...not the angry, judgmental punishing God portrayed by religions.

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Randall
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posted October 19, 2008 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

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posted November 27, 2008 11:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
same questions here,

i've got an appointment with a priest specialized in exorcism in one hour. i need to figure out some experience.

all i'm sure of, is that the good ones (spirits) do not coerce, not even for your own good.
on my tumb, my epitaph will be:

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D for Defiant
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posted November 29, 2008 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Gods are a mystery to humankind. People keep searching for the answer but they remain rather unfamiliar with the divine and linger around hypotheses.

As for the astral, spirit realm, spirits, even the fragments of spirits...I recommend the book by Samuel Sagan, M.D.-

"Entity Possession" (US title) aka "Entities, Parasites of the Body of Energy", with detailed chronicles and case studies on clients seeking help from Dr Sagan with his self-invented Inner Space Interactive Sourcing, the ISIS technique:

available at

Clairvision School

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praecipua
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posted December 02, 2008 11:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
D, U R .... a

many thanks for outlining this specific book. i tend to feel lethargic when i need to do something to sort out this problem.

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D for Defiant
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posted January 22, 2009 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Praecipua!!!

Thank YOU!!! Thanks for the positive feedback!

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