posted August 12, 2008 12:52 PM         

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Subhuti then asked Buddha: "In the future, in the last five centuries when the way is obscured, will any beings understand the truth of these teachings?"

Buddha answered: "Do not say this, Subhuti! Even then, in the remote future, there will be beings who will understand the truth when these words are taught. There will even then be Bodhisattvas meritorious in conduct, practised in virtue and full of wisdom who will understand the truth when they hear these teachings. Such Bodhisattvas, Subhuti, will not have honoured one Buddha alone, nor will they have rooted their merit under just one Buddha. Rather, these Bodhisattvas, who will find serene faith awakened upon hearing the words of this teaching, will have honoured and rooted themselves in merit under countless Buddhas. They are known to the Tathagata through his Buddha-thought; they are seen by the Tathagata with his Buddha-eye. Hence they are fully known to the Tathagata, and they will all acquire and produce inestimable merit.

"And why? Because, Subhuti, these Bodhisattvas will have no perception of an egotistic self, neither of a separate entity nor of a soul, no perception of a personality. Nor will they even have a perception of dharma or adharma, for in them there will be neither perception nor non-perception.

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posted August 12, 2008 01:26 PM         

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from wiki
Tath¨¡gata (pronounced: t¨¡ht-¨¡hgatah) in Pali and Sanskrit (Chin., Jap.: ÈçÀ´) confusingly perhaps, means both "one who has thus gone" (Tath¨¡-gata) and "one who has thus come" (Tath¨¡-¨¡gata) - as well as, some have argued, "one who has gone to That" (Tat-¨¡gata). Still others assert that the name means "one who has found the Truth". It is the name the historical Buddha Gautama uses when referring to himself.[1] The term is deliberately ambiguous, reflecting the unsignifiable nature of that state of transcendence or moksha which by definition goes beyond all categories of being or non-being. Tath¨¡gata paradoxically bespeaks this ineffability. Using this word as his preferred personal appellation, the Buddha of the scriptures is always reported as saying, "The Tathagata such and such...," instead of ever using the pronouns me, I or myself. This serves to emphasize by implication that the words uttered come from a place beyond the otherwise endless cycle of rebirth, beyond all death and dying, beyond all suffering. The Tathagata, in other words, is beyond all coming and going.

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Note tathata in Buddhas language means "Suchness".

He was always quiet about God and Creation. I can understand him very well now.

After 2500 hundred years since his time, scientists are now finding such "suchnesses" ? Amazing guy this Siddhartha. And remember telescope may not have even been invented during Buddha's time.

Ask Einstein to explain theory of relativity. His explanation has such 'suchness'. He just can't explain.

Ask Feynman.

I am sure many scientists have wondered why water boils at 212 deg F? One degree less and it does not boil.

posted August 14, 2008 01:35 PM         

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You are one with the stars and the trees and the sky and the ocean. You are no longer separate.
The last word of Buddha was, sammasati.
Remember that you are a buddha -- sammasati.

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posted August 17, 2008 11:59 AM         

What you seek you already are

Emerson says ....A Man is a God in ruins
Is he correct? Perhaps yes. Its possible he may self destruct himself and humanity on earth.

"What must I give up?". A seeker advices on renunciation. Osho responds "Give up that which you don't have. Don't give up that which you already have...."

What you don't have is ego. It is illusionary. There are some hindu mystics who have said the world is maya and the I is true... It is buddha who declares after his enlightenment, the I is illusionary the world is real....

This is the basis of Jain and Buddhism.
Very different from Hindu and Christians and Islams who have adviced the path of surrendering. Siddhartha the Buddha gave a wonderful insight to humanity. Whom should I surrender to when the I does not exists -... as I understand Osho explaining some of the buddhist sutras. He also explains we must not argue about who is right, both views can take you to the truth.

I personally find Buddhas words attractive. Takes you back home instantly . Because you recognize the wisdom in it. And the wisdom is from the beyond. The transcendental.

posted August 17, 2008 05:11 PM         

I agree. The mind is infinite. It cannot be totally controlled.

Some ego is required to function. But we must never forget the eternal enlightenment within us, in our everyday activities. Even if we forget, we must come back again to the remembrance of our enlightenment. Perhaps even regress the moment that was spent in unawareness.

The christian concept of humility and all that crap comes from ignorance.
Every now and then some jesus wannabe preaches about humility with no understanding, rather its from misunderstanding and it is forced. It comes from a bigger ego. I ignore such people. It has destroyed 2000 years of mankind. I don't blame anyone for that but men themselves
Bravo to Nietzsche... Hitler and others misrepresented him. Of thousand pages that Neechee wrote, in the end, only a few hundreds of pages were published in the book "Will to Power". Must be the same christian lunatics who must have interfered. Even Buddha's wisdom sutras and several ancient hindu scrolls were destroyed by mohammedans in India.

But as Buddha says there will be beings in future who will hear four lines of the sutras and they will be enlightened. And he was right, many Japanese Zen masters have been known to have been enlightened hearing some four lines of the sutras in the market place. They did not move from their place whereever and whenever they heard it. They stood still. They went to the mountain tops in aloneness.

posted August 17, 2008 11:07 PM         

--The small things of life have to be transformed by your inner transformation. This I call the religious quality; everything becomes sacred. Taking a Bath, making love, eating food, going to sleep,-everything becomes sacred.

posted August 18, 2008 08:44 AM         

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Buddha says - Aes Dhammo Sanantano

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posted August 19, 2008 02:55 PM         

It is perfectly ok to disagree.
Somethings only you are meant to find out. And that is your purpose.
Just as I have mine. Actually purpose /goals etc are such bad words. But I had to make a point therefore used it

When we talk of mind/ego/reincarnation/void. Words will create conflict. Ok deleting the posts - because truth has to be heard in presense of buddha.
i ain't no master yet

posted April 27, 2009 04:25 PM         

"It is the eternal journey with no final destination nor an end to learning that matters"

Indeed the "unknowable" remains eternally so, for both men and Gods(jesus, sidd, krishna, etc) , no exceptions.

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...But say: 'Allah,' and you will see marvels." [Letters of a Sufi Master]

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