posted September 09, 2008 05:56 PM         

A few times I have read that some age gurus could be working with the powers that be.

It's always important to use our own discretion and intuition in these matters.

I have just been thinking..... Is it possible that some of these gurus are actually trying to dumb us down, by persuading us not to look ahead so much, to just accept things as they are, and not to try and change things?

Are they trying to brainwash us into a sense of complacency....acceptance....and apathy?

posted September 10, 2008 01:33 PM         

If the Dalai Lama is one of the bad guys, that would make me see just how sinister these things are. We expect the politicians to be that, and we never think that Deepak Chopra could just be part of the plan.

posted September 10, 2008 01:51 PM         

I like Dalai Lama's humility. However I think he is not enlightened. All this political stand he is taking is pulling him away from his enlightenment. He must forget about Tibet and become selfish and start meditating more.

There are numerous fake gurus out there.
We have to be very careful. Enlightenment is a rare phenomenon. You can't miss a Buddha if you come across one. It is your very own nature.

posted September 10, 2008 02:12 PM         

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Also has anyone read Neale Donald Walsches Conversations with God?
"Chanelled "material , really interesting read, but the penny drops big time
on book 2 or 3 when "God" starts saying how brave SNR Bush is to bring forward the NWO . Makes me think of CIA mind control (voices ).

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posted September 19, 2008 01:31 AM         

It could be as you say.

But I also think that, in many cases, people are just flawed.

One flaw doesnt necessarily discredit the entire message.

Also, no single guru can lead the way for all seekers, or give equal expression to every dimension of the truth.

One guru is destined to speak for the Mind of God.

Another for the Heart.

Another for the Hands.

And so on.

Let not the Heart say that the Head is wrong, or vice versa.

There are many ways to God, each tailored to the dimensions of various seekers.

As for conversing with God...
There are many aspects of God. God reveals Himself in infinite forms.
There is a God who converses. And a God beyond words.
Neither discredits the other; each occupies an essential time and place.

Everything in its season.

3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

~ Romans 14

posted September 19, 2008 03:40 PM         

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I personally feel....for example....that anger in itself is not negative. It all depends on the way we channel it. Without anger there would be no fuel for motivation. Anger as an energy is not in itself negative...but is the very fuel which inspires us to get off our rears and do something to stand up for what we believe in.

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Sure, I think you've got a good point. Anger can be an efficient way to jump start a cause. I don't find that it lasts though.
We (and I'm not pointing any fingers here. It's just a modern sensibilty) tend to enjoy thinking of God as a strictly benign force - all butterflies and puppydogs and so forth. I'm trying to come to terms with the idea of divine righteous anger. Or wrath, as the old-timers used to say.

posted September 19, 2008 05:35 PM         

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I'm trying to come to terms with the idea of divine righteous anger. Or wrath, as the old-timers used to say.

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Careful with that.

I think the book of Job is largely concerned with that idea.

The "friends" of Job seek to justify "the wrath of God".

But Job cries that it is meaningless.

God then reveals Himself to Job, commending him for speaking the truth,
and rebukes his "friends" for thinking they could (or needed to) justify the ways God.

How many wars have been fought because of belief in a justifiable wrath?

And you seek more justifications?

posted September 19, 2008 10:49 PM         

Yes, it's tricky terrain.

I've been thinking about the book of Job a bit lately. I've put off a serious exploration for a long time. I'm more of a Revelations kind of girl, you know?

How many wars have been fought because of belief in a justifiable wrath?

I'm not sure what you mean by this. More?

posted October 05, 2008 01:30 PM         

My two cents...

All channeled material must, by its very nature come through the filters of the channel.

No one has absolute connection to Truth 100% of the time. But we ALL have access to God/Truth, because we live and move and have our being in the Mind of the One.

Do not confuse the message with the messenger. If a part of a philosophy does not ring true with you, then leave it behind, take what rings your bell of truth and go forward. That is evolution and growth.

I happen to have found a great deal of Truth in the CWG material. Does that mean that Neale Donald Walsch has cornered the market on Truth, or that EVERYTHING that falls from his lips is the Word of God? No. But does that mean he doesn't have the right to his beliefs and filters? I think not.

I knew Linda personally, lived with her for months... and seen her for the human being that she was. Does that mean that knowing her as a human invalidates her connection to the Infinite and makes her Teachings any lesss True?

I think the take home point is that we are given seedings of Truth from many sources: books, movies, songs, snatches of overheard conversation and even the boob tube, as it were. Take the seed, plant it and grow with it.

Idol worship is an odd thing. We find a philosophy or Teacher that moves us, and then assume that he or she is more evolved and enlightened than we are. We then find a flaw in their personality... they are, after all, only human. Does their humanity negate their connection to Truth? Perhaps the point is that we, in our own humanity, have access to the same Truths. Even the Master Teacher has said, "these things and greater things than these shall you do..." (pardon the bad paraphrase)

The Teacher within will "know" when it hears Truth, and when it hears misinterpretation. Take advantage of the best, and leave behind the rest. No need to throw away the baby with the proverbial bathwater, now, is there?

Blessed Be...

posted November 14, 2008 07:10 PM         

I actually bought a Neale Donald Walsch book today called "Happier than God". Had a flick through it and it resonated with me. Ekhart Tolle, on the other hand, does not resonate with me but I suppose you could say it's due to the fact that one size does not fit all.