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COMMANDER CONSTANT-HAZE
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posted December 18, 2008 10:29 PM
 
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posted December 18, 2008 10:36 PM
edited....I see you have it now!
To all others....
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posted December 18, 2008 10:55 PM
Lexx  I like what you shared. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6de9FjR40g0
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posted December 18, 2008 11:29 PM
I love those!
And this is so beautiful it brings me to tears! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaOki5eGvy0
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posted December 19, 2008 04:33 AM
Nice topic! Lexx, LTT and Commander Chief excellent posts, 
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posted December 19, 2008 09:04 AM
quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaOki5eGvy0
I'm in tears
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posted December 19, 2008 01:22 PM
LTT
Thank you for a better version!
I am in tears again!
OOPs...we are getting off topic!LOL!------------------
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posted December 20, 2008 12:51 PM
Really interesting thread, the whole Lucifer and Pleidean stories are fascinating. The characteristics of the Pledians seem so similar to that of the Borg from Star Trek.
The whole hive mind oneness also resembles certain insect behavior which again mirrors itself in the fact that you have said Lexx that they were spider looking! Anyways if they are gone now? Who or what exactly destroyed them. Was it that they had reached a certain threshold of power which then alerted beings greater than the P, that they in the future felt that the P would consume them also. So they stepped in and beat the hell out of the P for there own good lol?  If thats true, are the ones greater than the P anything to be worried about, as we must surely only be ants to them? IP: Logged |
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posted December 20, 2008 03:28 PM
Lei_Kuei
Your Cthulhu reference is haunting right on. As this...I shall write a bit of a reply. highly condensed of course. quote:
If thats true, are the ones greater than the P anything to be worried about, as we must surely only be ants to them?
Greater than the "P"? What is greater? Only different not actually greater. More experienced? Having the ability to cross dimensional travel? Yes. But that is all.
Such ones wait and do not interfered with us until/if we are or have been interfered with and our natural evolutions on this planet tampered with.
OK....
AN EXTREMELY CONDENSED VERSION.....
I shall begin with a version of a popular phrase...
Long ago in a galaxy far far away....
The god there absorbed most of the myriad sapient lifeforms from billions of worlds, back into its oneness. Unlike the Borg the unique individuality of each soul was lost. The god cared not for their memories or experiences during their evolutions. It only wanted to absorb again (as it had done back into eternity past, over and over)the energy so it could start over again.
However the time before it came to this galaxy and Earth, it had a novel thought!
Why not leave a few out of the re-absorption?
Let them watch as the destroyed worlds recovered from their nuclear winters and so forth. Let the later coming non sapient life forms evolved into sapiency in time. Let them watch their worlds until they could reincarnate or resulate back into the physical again.
And so he (their god, after souls rejoined him, losing their identities, or he simply took them)....he moved off into deep space to "be".
In time he became very lonely.
He forgot where he came from.
Unboundless time passed.
He became quite insane in his loneliness.
Then he arrived in our solar system.
He saw Earth, all under its primeval cloud cover in darkness.
He saw the primordial waters deep and the primordial ooze with the elements for physical life to be contained therein.
Then he began to remember, a little blue gentle amphibian, the smiling faces of young sapient beings, and so much more. His loneliness deepened immeasurably.
"Hello!" He called out into space...."is anybody out there"...and no one answered him.
He sobbed in his lonely being as only a god can grieve for what was but was no more. Then he had a god epiphany! A eureka of cosmic proportions!
God=Oneness=one mind=reactor=reaction=creator=creation!!!!!!!!!
No one is supposed to go back to his oneness!!!!!!!!
If he were to start over and NOT allow them to rejoin as energy only....
he could wait until each became gods in their own right and time!
He would NEVER BE ALONE AND LONELY AGAIN!
And so he hovered over Earth and in the joy of his awakening to a new way of his being...no more oneness, no more letting souls willingly rejoin in him, losing their identities and experiences, or taking soul energy back just to start over...
He laughed!
He laughed with great joy at the wonderful future which awaited him and all he would become in time, never to become a oneness again in the physical sense....
He laughed again and in his great joy he shattered and creator became the creation; not a big bang as before, (as he had not absorbed everyone as he had done before each big bang down through eternity past.)
The dark clouds over the Earth moved, the sun shone on Earth, the seas began to teem with life, and in time civilizations came and went. Humankind does not remember most and has only brief ideas of ones vaguely remembered such as Atlann and Atlantis. Or Biblical Babel and so forth.
OK....not getting into the interim stories betwixt his coming here and the time of the
uninvited invaders...it comprises over 900 single spaced typed pages in my manuscript. I told you it is a very long story and this is only a highly condensed or outline of it all.
Some of the watchers in that other galaxy changed their minds about waiting. They had grown bored and wanted to find god who had left them, and so to rejoin with him and help reabsorb all sapient souls' energy and become within him an even more powerful god oneness.
The watchers who stayed behind did not realize the agenda of the ones who went to find their god.
They thought they were going to simply go out to survey other worlds, other galaxies, to kill time and maybe bring home useful information.
These ones who left...in time lay in wait in the Hyades. During that time they were involved in the Earth extinction during the time of the Gorgons... http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-130364846.html http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-115696805.html
Later as they moved into the area known as The Pleiades by we here on Earth....
they helped orchestrate the extinctions that followed, including the saurian one.
With help of the Borg like Sirians, more machine like than flesh, (the sensory flesh being artificial too)they "uplifted" a being and made him think he was actually god.
This being was more than happy to begin what is metaphorically The Eden Zoo here on Earth.
He tricked lifeforms into going to "the light"; ie; the Pleiadesian "light and sweet influences...as the Bible(s) hint at... quote:
Job
31 - Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?
I will elaborate more on that later as it involves the Luciferian story.
OK..to continue...
All over the planet life was already still teeming and sapient/humanoids were already living all over the planet.
But LORD God of the Eden Zoo served his uplifters and enjoyed playing god! In time he became quite vain and thought he was actually the creator or a real god. He considered the Pleiadesians his angels. So blind in his jealousy and arrogance that he actually believed that they served him, not the other way around.
The oneness that was the Pleiadesian entity did not mind. After all they kinda created him and he was very good at bringing them souls so they could consume them. He was very good at stirring the humans up and getting them all emotional...violent emotions being the best "angel food" or "Loosh" as coined by Robert A. Monroe.
Moving far forward now...
So in time, the watchers who were still watching and waiting realized what the agenda of the ones who left had been.
So they sent out watchers to observe and emissaries to report on what had been happening here in this solar system and our galaxy.
May of these emissaries were destroyed one by one throughout time.
But a few did survive (one being what humans call Lucifer, the other known as Yeshua who have incarnated many times on Earth and continue to observe. They have become quite human and Earthbound as any human is, only they remember a bit more of the history)and what humans came to call Armageddon, or the story in Revelation...happened. Yes...in the spaces between space and time, the so called war in heaven happened.
The Pleiadesian oneness entity was taken into custody and the reign of the false god ended.
I will not go into more depth or detail at this time.
We humans are on our own now. We do have within each of us that shattered god, who continues to learn and grow and experience living by way of each of us. We were never meant to serve the outsiders nor rejoin as a one mind oneness.
As it was said tauntingly...
to paraphrase..."do ye not know that ye are gods?
Even in the Eden Zoo, the experiment went bad for The Pleiadesians minion/creation, ie; LORD God and the Eden Zoo.
The tale was a simple tale of a much more complex real story/history, but told in metaphors and story like so the primitive humans of those days could understand it.
However the mythos of Adam/Eve reveals that things do eventually return to as they should be in time, despite the interference from outsiders. And so, as it was said simply:
quote:
Genesis
3
5: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.22: And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us,
to know good and evil: and now,
lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
And so our immortality gene was taken from us. We had become as what LORD God of the second Genesis story and his Eden Zoo experimental "lab" was set up by order of the Pleiadesians, with help from the Sirians. The Sirians were useful to the Pleiadesians only for doing the physical realm work they could not do. The Sirians had no actual soul energy they could consume.
OK...
enough for now.
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posted December 20, 2008 04:40 PM
Lexx, wow thank you taking the time to write such a vast reply with many topics for discussion :thumbs:Lets see what to try and tackle first... The god from the galaxy far far away? Was it thee ONLY god in the universe? Because if thats the case and he had absorbed billions of worlds, left a few pockets of life in the far away galaxy and then started the whole creation process here in this galaxy...? That means that beyond this solar system there isn't a whole lot of life left out there in the physical universe? And what the hell... The Earth was here before the God entity that shattered to become the soul/consciousness of us, by that logic there has to be something even more godly who created the Planets/Stars/Physical Universe? Or... was it just that he had forgotten that HE had he created the physical world? There is a tone of things to talk about in your post Lexx but Im not going any further for a while 
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posted December 20, 2008 06:03 PM
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Lexx, wow thank you taking the time to write such a vast reply with many topics for discussion
You are welcome!  quote:
Lets see what to try and tackle first...The god from the galaxy far far away? Was it thee ONLY god in the universe?
Of course not. quote:
Because if thats the case and he had absorbed billions of worlds, left a few pockets of life in the far away galaxy and then started the whole creation process here in this galaxy...?
No he was not the only one. Just in his region. But yeah..he absorbed a galaxy...and moved on many times.... quote:
That means that beyond this solar system there isn't a whole lot of life left out there in the physical universe?
Wrong. There is life into infinity.
Who created that god...who created the universe...I am not going to get into that at this time. It is too hard to explain and would be rather incomprehensible to most folks. I am still trying to wrap my synapses around it. It is a concept which brings one to the edge of insanity and a knowledge which would destroy a human mind....or expand it beyond being human and one could no longer simply exist as before.
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posted December 20, 2008 06:20 PM
BTW...human concepts of what is a god are so off base by way of the simplicity of what most humans think of as a god....they are not even close to the true concept.
What is a god?
The more advanced the intellect, the less likely it is even remotely interested in the individual "pictures", the broad picture is the focus. The more evolved, the broader the big picture gets.
Some are so evolved. that only infinity means anything of importance, some are beyond that and are incomprehensible to us.
Some are interested in narrower pictures, like galaxies, some systems, some planets. But are they really gods?
Then we get into the human concept of god.
Well even that is way off base.
Folks think a creator would be personally interested and wants to answer their prayers.
And oh how vain is that? Assuming god is our servant at our beck and call. People pray to win wars, games, find love, get money, you name it...they pray for it. That opens them up to many entities who like to play god and or guides. Looking outside oneself is at least foolish, and or could be potentially dangerous. Find your own divinity and connection to the universe within. Look there and find the true god concept and power. Can you use that power yet even if you find it? Not yet, but someday.
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posted December 20, 2008 07:59 PM
It gets confusing after a while with so many people and psychics having so many different versions of reality. How can we tell who is wrong and who is right?Its just a thought. Maybe it would be best for each of us to go within more. For example, I liked this man's work very much, but then I saw his latest addition to his video series and didn't think much of it, lol:
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posted December 20, 2008 08:40 PM
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It gets confusing after a while with so many people and psychics having so many different versions of reality.
From what I have seen most are more alike than different. N one seems to have my take on it all. Some elements but not all. quote:
How can we tell who is wrong and who is right?
Good question. quote:
Its just a thought.Maybe it would be best for each of us to go within more.
Yes. Outside is not the answer place. quote:
For example, I liked this man's work very much, but then I saw his latest addition to his video series and didn't think much of it, lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDAA4cKVElM
He is confused in my opinion as to what constitutes evil. The "P were not evil. They sincerely thought what they were doing was a good and god serving thing. Evil is a perception isn't it? At least in these situations. He seems obsessed with evil as if it is a being not a concept. I do somewhat agree with him though in that the pettiness of false gods was real. And the manipulation of humans and other worlds and so forth destroyed by them in their lust for power and or energy. Mostly energy, until you get false gods who served the soul energy eaters, and then you get false so called gods fighting over control of Earth...or even just a region, a race, a city, a king, whatever.
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posted December 21, 2008 06:22 PM
Just reading this at the moment (half way through)....it's very long but is holding my interest so far....it gives yet another angle on what we have been talking about! 
http://www.projectcamelot.org/james_wingmakers_sovereign_integral.html Woa! ------------------
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posted December 21, 2008 09:21 PM
OK...first and foremost,
it looks like just another new age money making scheme.
I looked at it all.
A little, of what he said is on track, but warped, and he uses alot of double talk trying to sound wise and or mysterious, so I wonder what his true agenda is.
Something is wrong. 
He talks too much.
He uses trendy nomers.
I do not trust him nor his channeler.
Also his info is pre 1999 and in my opinion is highly suspect.
Additionaly, it is disturbing that the illustration he uses is a highly anthropromorphisized image of a "P" style "angel/guide".
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posted December 21, 2008 09:31 PM
I don't now.....I do agree that he could have used much better wording than he did....beauty in simplicity.....as far as I could tell the stuff on the websites was all available for free except the paintings.IP: Logged |
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posted December 21, 2008 09:33 PM
What he said about the greys didn't sound right though.IP: Logged |
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posted December 21, 2008 09:43 PM
Maybe the channeler is simply not very good at it and imparted their own stuff and interpretations into it all instead of only what they actually got. Prophets and seer channelers get caught up in feeling special, and unlike theory minded researcher/channelers, often add elements not actually channeled. They state what they claim as absolute fact not a what if or theory. They try, but go around in circles, to explain but it gets swamped in babble and excess verbage and old news conspiracy tales that have already been written about by many.
Interesting nevertheless.
The message they are trying to sell is old news in my view, a grade school course. Been there done that, seen that, yadda yadda yadda....next please.
About as convoluted and even slyly contradictory as B.Marcinak's series was.
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What he said about the greys didn't sound right though.
I agree.
I saw alot of things like that betwixt things that sounded kinda right, sans the goofy name tags and la la new age spin tryng to sound all mystical.
I will read it again when I get time. His rant was not a tidy succinctness at all and bounced about every which way.
After awhile I was like...get to the point dude!
Stand still and speak without flying around the room in a manic new age manic frenzy already! You are going all dizzy dude!
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posted December 22, 2008 01:51 PM
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posted December 22, 2008 03:11 PM
Thank LTT! 
I commented more here too: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/003647.html
Again...if it sounds to good to be true it probably is.
Humans are so desperate to be helped, to be considered chosen by greater beings...
they are too easily duped into silliness disguised as wise wisdom from some false love and light messages...or worse, encounter
something real and do not realize they have been used until it is too late.
Beware those who use such words as "I". "I AM". "WE" are here to help you...."we" are the ("whatever") of light....{"whatever brotherhood, galactic la la la") "we we we we we we we"......
who flood the net with their messages and glitzy flashy artsy new age videos (heavily laced and infused/underlayed with subliminal messages)......trying to brainwash the masses of the desperate.
Rant over for now.
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posted January 05, 2009 06:52 PM
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posted January 16, 2009 09:35 PM
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posted January 16, 2009 11:41 PM
Hi oneruledbymars,so what came to mind for you? Lucifer and his fallen angels, gives me a picture of a bunch of vigilantes all sitting around wanting an assignment for a worthwhile cause but there's nothing available to apply themselves to. Hence, they're all sitting around with too much time on their hands, and their thoughts begin to sway to using their influence somewhere else just to give themselves some application - maybe even 'underground' work, or alternatively, putting the ambling 'sunday afternoon tea' after church kinda people under pressure. Kinda a misdirected force for 'good'. Like the saying 'idle hands are the devil's workshop/tools' or 'idleness is the root of mischief'. I like these kind of topics - great idea.
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posted January 18, 2009 08:26 PM
Hey Chryseis , this one is still stewing for me, sometimes it takes a while for Isis' veil to split, lol.
Everyones view points and thoughts have been amazing though, thats why I love this place!
I like your view Chryseis they have got to be like going insane having to be confined to Gaia, lol
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