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BanxxManxx
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posted January 08, 2011 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by littlecloud:
I agree with all but your first sentence. "Controlling ways" are never beneficial. At least not they way they use it.

yeah you are right! Something must have happened to let these ******** get free you know?

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posted January 08, 2011 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halo BanxxManxx

Every One sees
their part of the hole
as the Whole Part.
Each One of Us,
Born into Consciousness
is God incarnate, I believe.
Suns of God, each One of Us.

So much has gotten confused, as LTT points out,
in the midst of those who do NOT see this...
These legends, the fables, the stories
the books, the media, the religions...
the" spaghetti!"
Have all contributed to the circumlotion
of the simple fact:
that we are here,
we NEED to Live
together,
as One.
to Live and let Live
and Love one another, as we would our Selves.
I see and know you know this.
Now you must share your knowledge
to those who do not share such open mindedness.
Fight the Good fight, as they say.
I am confident you do and Will continue to do so

In regards to my Place, on my journey.
I have just begun to standUnder some of these
tenets of Wisdom you speak of
and "know to be true".
It has taken me “a very long Time
to become young again...
a Life Time”.... as Picasso would say.
"Born again" to use the Christian idiom,
is what seeking the Truth is All about.
It happens every time I disprove my beliefs!
And that happens most everyday I awaken
to the possibilities that maybe what I know, isn't so.
To remain stagnant in one's own thought process
is certain death in the Cycle of Life.
Most people are caught in what their
inherent belief system teaches them....
and choose "blinders' to walk on their path.
The safe, straight and narrow road
to turning a blind I.
They certainly are entitled to do so,
without ever finding out for themselves what they are told,
to be Truth.

It isn't the truth that sets You free....
It is the Seeking.

These are those, however,
who end up on the top
of this "pyramids," as you say,
and relish the false power
they bestow onto themselves.
These are those who walk around
in a trance like state...
forever choosing the blue pill.
Accepting and fervently what has been placed in front of them.
With out ever real eyesing
or wanting to choose
their "Free Will" and " Freedom,"
Thinking that they ARE doing so.

This is the real evil in the World.

They are lost on their Way
and walk with others
of the same Mind,who no longer ask for direction.
But feel as though they are “creating”it.
Being mortal,
this is the age old story
of the"Man who would Be King"...
(A great movie BTW)

I have witnessed this on my own Path,
( one which has taken many turns)
and "de-sided" to take the Road Less Traveled....
and" it made All the difference."

I am of the Mind to Believe
everything I learn
until I can prove it otherwise...
and diligently do I so, daily.
No one can tell me how to think.
I choose that for my Self.
But first must explore every possibility.
Every avenue.
Every corner.
Every re-legion
Every arcane oracle of ancient text.
Every passage to every scripture.
Every thought from every One.
Every thing.
Learn it.
Study it.
Prove it.
Debunk it.
Prove it again.
Turn it upside down.
Inside and out.
Until...my "knowing" tells me
what is "right" and what is not.
For me.

I respect and appreciate those others
who do the same.
Even if their beliefs are far from mine.
As long as they abide by the "Golden Rule"
and harm no one in the process.

That seems NOT to be the case in Freemasonry,
at the "top of the pyramid" as you say.
Where the "elite" decide other's Fates
and control the masses,
through many cleverly designed techniques that
Little Cloud has described here.
It is an unforntunate reality for the sheeple
who earn their daily bread and trust what is
as it should Be.

I agree.
But that has not stopped my vigilance.
I too fight the Good Fight,
but have one simple
advantage here....
I have seen with mine own Eyes
where most people only can speculate.
Drinking the "kool aid" has not prevented me
from using my Consciousness to "de-side"
for my Self
what my Part is in the Whole.
Others, unfortunately, do not see it that Way...
bringing us to the state we are in now;
On our knees, as Little Cloud has described again.

Halo Little Cloud

I would like to address your thoughts hear
as I believe they are important and poignant
and come from great conviction.

Reading your Words here
reMinds me of a Place, I was a long time ago....
that what is, isn’t what I thought it was.
My happy, everyday existence
along my Path of what was fed to me
was altered when my Third Eye was opened
and the All became apparent to me.
It was a very hard and difficult Time
in my new awareness that Life is truly an Illusion.
All of IT.
My Quest turned inward and became an “inside job.”
I real eyesed I cannot “enlighten” anyone.
The “illumination” I discovered,
was the spark of Light
within me
that needed to be channeled and allowed to Breathe...
All I could do was shut my I’s and mouth
and Open my Heart and Mind.

That Day
Changed Every Thing for me.

All the mass media,
school curriculum,
government regulations and laws,
religious “kool aid,”
guidance counselors and resumes
clubs and organizations
secret societies and public forums
became obsolete in my Mind.
Quite like John Lennon’s song....”God.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3ic6OOXns

For Once
I was a-Lone.
But very much A-Live!

It was long ago and my Quest has never diminished or faded.
It has brought me to far away places and close to People hear,
who share like Mindedness and agree to disagree.
I for One, am thankful for your Words.
For they rekindle the Fire
I set, many Moons ago, deep inside my Self.

If you are interested in digging deeeper
into the inqueries and rhetoric you have thrown my Way,
I will certainly relish the opportunity
to grab a bigger shovel.
For there is no end to what we can learn
from One and Other.

Below, is a fellow Questor,
who I admire and speaks a Truth
I resonate with.
Ironically, he is a direct link from Diablo’s Post on the “hidden hand” and is very interesting to read.

I hope you have the Time to check it out.

Be Well.

Peace & Light~

Chahldean

http://illuminati-news.com/000-spiritual/html/how-to-fight-the-nwo.html

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posted January 08, 2011 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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BanxxManxx
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posted January 08, 2011 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halo Chahldean :-)

Nice response. Vary interesting.

As far as the link goes, if I was part of the evil elite, I would release a web page "explaining how to defeat the NWO", just so that I could tell the people what I wanted to tell them without them really knowing what they actually needed to know to fight against us. There isn't going to be a golden letter for everyone to see explaining how to defeat the enemy. The enemy isn't that dumb and neither am I :-)

but yeah thanks for the link, it explains certain things.

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posted January 08, 2011 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the link.

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Chahldean
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posted January 08, 2011 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halo BM~
Touche! Quite Right...
One has to read between the lines as it were,
in everything.

Any information I come across now...
especially "public"
I believe the opposite.
HowEver,
there is fact in fiction
and there is a great deal
of Us
out there unturning the stones
and opening our I's.
Seeing is not believing...
And believing is not knowing.

In regards to the "fight"...
I am not sure there is much we can do now
as Individuals
EXCEPT
Stay Positive and emote Light&Love
in the face of All this 3D adversity.
Again, an inside job that few Humans real eyes
is possible and actually works.

I appreciate All your interest and response

You are Well Come Little Cloud...
I enjoy your inSights as well.

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BanxxManxx
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posted January 08, 2011 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I disagree. I think as individuals there is much to do. Take for instance the shooting at Arizona today. The man fighting back against the government. I expect to see more of this against the heads of the government not only in America but in the world. The people may not be able to touch the hidden hands but they can "reach" the "families", puppets who do their bidding. Evil doesn't go unchecked forever :-)

Today is just another example that these sheep and "blind" people, that those at the top disregard, actually DO have power.

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posted January 08, 2011 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope I've read between the lines correctly.

Now I wonder whose more in danger, you or I?

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posted January 08, 2011 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BM- A lot of these "violent" crimes are setups by undercover dis-information agents. To misinform the public who may be learning something. To guide them back to the saddle with the blinders. They want to infiltrate any "group" that wants to fight the NWO by finding out what they know, how they plan to act so that they can take over from there and control the entire thing. You think the wiki-leaks weren't planned? Let's say for arguments sake that they weren't, the government is going to spin it to their advantage and start shutting down web-sites. Just a few months ago they had a news-cast saying how America could now probably be attacked my hackers and how they plan on employing 15/16 year old to help "protect" their country. This kills 2 birds with 1 stone. First they prep everyone for a possibility of web site shut downs, second they are able to have a list of people who are able to hack into computers.

After a while you start to notice all these "coincidences" until it's not a coincidence anymore and just a pattern.

This world is truly sad.

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posted January 08, 2011 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxxManxx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by littlecloud:
BM- A lot of these "violent" crimes are setups by undercover dis-information agents. To misinform the public who may be learning something. To guide them back to the saddle with the blinders. They want to infiltrate any "group" that wants to fight the NWO by finding out what they know, how they plan to act so that they can take over from there and control the entire thing. You think the wiki-leaks weren't planned? Let's say for arguments sake that they weren't, the government is going to spin it to their advantage and start shutting down web-sites. Just a few months ago they had a news-cast saying how America could now probably be attacked my hackers and how they plan on employing 15/16 year old to help "protect" their country. This kills 2 birds with 1 stone. First they prep everyone for a possibility of web site shut downs, second they are able to have a list of people who are able to hack into computers.

After a while you start to notice all these "coincidences" until it's not a coincidence anymore and just a pattern.

This world is truly sad.


You are right. But the world isn't sad, it is the corrupt beings in power and the mindless people who do their work, who are. We just have to do what we can to help people open their eyes to get on the positive path.

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posted January 20, 2011 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chahldean- You never answered my question.

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posted January 20, 2011 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halo Little Cloud~

I didn't quite understand your Question
is why I didn't answer it.
Please clarify exactly what the Question is
and I certainly will.

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posted January 30, 2011 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I understood you chose a difficult path by "keeping your enemies closer" and got sidetracked a little bit. I seem to have re-sparked that fire that set you on that path from the beginning. I asked if this puts you in more danger than I. I am one of the sheeple that know about Freemasons and their true purpose even if it's hidden from lesser masons. This puts me in danger from several things especially the public. I can be persecuted. But I'm not the only sheeple like this. You, however are one of the elite. The people closes to you are the ones that can f*ck you the hardest.

So by keeping your enemies close have you cut your own feet from under you? Or am I, one of the many that may die at the hands of the Illuminati, better off than you?

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posted January 31, 2011 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't answer for him, but keeping enemies close is more of proximity than a true closeness. You know who they are and can watch them. The ones who truly screw you over the worst are those whom are your true friends--or so you think--and you never see it coming.

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posted March 02, 2011 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halo Little Cloud

As, again, I am not yet sure of your inference and suggestive rhetoric in your statements here, I will try to answer what I think is being said. In contrary to your presumption, I have not "chosen a difficult path" by any means nor do I keep any "enemies close to me"; as the FreeMasons I know are quite the opposite. To know them is to Love them; as they are good upstanding citizens, who care deeply for their family, their friends, their community and their country. Your rhetoric has not sparked anything in my Soul, except for the fact that I recognize confusion on your part; most likely because of the half-baked Conspiracy Theories you may have divulged in and believe in without "knowing" the internal workings of any of these organizations you fault,demise and blame for all the atrocities in the World at large. You say you are one of those "sheeple" who " know about Freemasons and their true purpose".Contrair, I beg to defer. I believe you are confusing Weishaupt's Illuminati and their cronies with the Masons in general. The Illuminati became Mason's and are Masons,infiltrating the organization due to their global prowness and unity of Brotherhood, but most Mason's are not necessarily the illuminati in any stretch of the imagination. Most people do not know this and group the two together in their naive ignorance and angst against the "machine". What source have you that you make such deliberate claims? Barnes and Noble? The Smoking Gun? Snopes? The Da Vinci Code? As most people believe everything they read, hear and are told, urban legends grow taller down the line and the twisted telephone game creates a false premise that often allows more confusion to the masses of who's doing what to whom and why? I certainly can understand that, as I have spent the last 20 years reading all that same literature, canvassing the same WebSites and traveling far and wide to "find the Truth" Mulder. In regards to "danger" you speak of....That is your perception of things my dear. You may have to deal with the paranoia these type of inquiries create. And believe me, you ARE not alone. The ignorant masses are beginning to awaken to the control that has been subliminally enforced and coerced on Mankind since our conception and inception. But you would truly be amazed to know who or what is doing it to "Us". Perhaps you haven't gotten that far in your studies and I respect that. Rather than insult your intelligence or existence in your choice of perception, I will simply state that I have no fear of, or for my Life, in any way shape or form. I know a Truth that has guided me from such meager thought processes and real eyes that I am the one in control of what happens to me and my Life. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing....so tread lightly where areas of finger pointing are concerned my Dear, and make no assumptions as to what people are about without "knowing".

Randall, thanks for chiming in. I agree with your statement completely; as it has been my experience that those you love and trust the most can hurt you the deepest, indeed. But unfortunately, it is ultimately our fault in such manners, as often hope goes against our True knowing, thus producing yet one more lesson this Life has to offer. Truth=hurt. And that is All this Life is about, I believe. Learning lessons and the chance to Ascend higher and higher. Up the proverbial Jacob's Ladder we rise. The harder the task, the more the hurt, the higher the Truth. IF we live and let live and learn.

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posted March 08, 2011 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All you get when you shine sh!t is shiny sh!t.

I don't believe conspiracy theories. I believe the truth.

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posted March 08, 2011 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We must define Truth then,
before we can uncover it no?

Which Truth are you referring to?
Presumably yours by your intonations and wordplay.
Behind every truth is a higher Truth.

Again I am confused by your answers here....

Correct me if I am wrong please BUT....
I believe your accusations of the Freemasons being responsible for the tyranny in the world and all the corruption man has been subjected to.

Is this NOT a conspiracy theory?

I had the distinct impression you hold the Organization responsible for all the World's misery.
Perhaps I should read between the lines better.

To each, his own, my Dear.
To each. His own.



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posted March 09, 2011 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No it's not a conspiracy theory.

Btw I don't get my info from mainstream media. I don't like lies and the lying liars that tell them

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posted March 09, 2011 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halo Little Cloud
I am glad you have blown in hear once again....

Again, I find it hard to understand your ambiguous answers; as they are contrite and circumlotive in the wholeness and purpose of this thread.

I suspect you are confusing your Belief system with what you call "truth" not real eyesing Truth is relative to whom you speak to.

Being the judge and jury of your convictions will only limit your perceptions of the "Whole Picture," as Life is a perpetual Path of Learning.

If ,as you say, you don't get your "information" from the " mainstream media"
( whatever that is?) I welcome you to share your information hear; as this is what this SIte is about, is it not? Getting to the Source of Love and Light, Spiraling upwards towards the Divine Truth.

Please, tell Us , what the "Truth" is.
I am eager to hear IT from One who knows.

And, whom the liars are with their lies, so we, too, can spot them and avoid them at all costs!

It reMinds me of an Old Irish Toast.....

"Let those who love us, Love Us.
And those who don't love us, May God turn their Hearts.
And IF He can't turn their Hearts,
May He turn their ankles.
So that we, may recognize them, by their limping.



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Enforced subjugation can be used as a classroom.

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The truth is that there is a family behind the scenes who have been controlling history. They never die because we weren't meant to die. They create the disease and they have the "cure", the vaccinations that put the time limit on life, while they live throughout the centuries. They set up the chips. The humans use their free will though to go on the negative path. They are not forced too. I must change things though so that we evolve into the positive or creation.

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posted March 15, 2011 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halo Bethcarliseh

Well come

Ah! More truths emerge!
Deeper we go into the Rabbit Hole....always seeking. Your information resonates hear and if you may, please elaborate on the information you speak of,
as I standUnder and appreciate reSearch indeed.

There is a plethora of info on these matters....
Hear. There. Everywhere.
This Site has numerous Threads
indicating this information;
as well as The Web and many other reSources
that have revealed such "truths"....

Please share your "truths" that you have disCovered.


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posted March 17, 2011 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bethcarliseh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah and they warship this being/god that most peeps refer to as lucifer. He keeps his bitches in check. lucifer runs this yeah,(for now but not much longer) and his little ***** 13 "ledeadrs" set up shop. Then the wealthy blah blah. The important part is that The SUN is awake now. this isnt good for the lucifer and all of his bitches on earth, so they are getting scared now, blowing **** up , keeping humans in check, thinking they run **** , but The SUN man has plans to buck them up and create a paradice on earth you know what im saying chaldeamon,

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It is cute how the satanic geeks that run this planet have everything backwards. So when people think they are doing the right thing, it is usually wrong and vice versa. Like celebrating holidays when in actuality you are paying homage to satan and lucifer. Go to school so you can be taught NO Knowledge. Go to church, mosques and synagogues so you can be kept from finding out the truth about God or Gods and Spirituality and The Creators and what not. Eat our Food, not the earths food,so you can die. They have it all set up so nicely :-) eyes a gonna change that though

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