posted March 14, 2009 01:54 AM            

And folks think a God or the Universe gives a damn about this planet,
(((in respect to silly prayers for winning a game...a war....getting a date...yadda yadda yadda...)))
and is on call to stop everything just to answer such mundane often selfish or evil request prayers and all, and that we are uber special.....
Get real!

posted March 15, 2009 12:40 AM              

Each planet bearing life, each solar system within a galaxy is given a damn about, even if there are ninetynine quadruple billion gazilions times a zillion of them!

Just as if a normal loving mother has 1, 3, 5 or even 10 chidren, they're all special, amazing, magical, and shes loves them all.

How can so many things be at the centre? That's the magic of the Universe, it's all relative.

I still feel special!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its sooo not humbling. But I LOVED THAT VIDEO.. too awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted March 15, 2009 10:37 PM            

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And folks think a God or the Universe gives a damn about this planet, and is on call to stop everything just to answer prayers and all, and that we are uber special.....
Get real!

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In the above quote, "God" is perceived as what Christianity presents as "God", "who is on call to stop everything just to answer prayers and all"- clearly this is a defiant gesture to the Christian concept of "God". To the best of my knowledge, the Christian perception on "God" is twisted for sure, but in rebellion against that, it does not mean "God" has to be like that. The above quote also defies the notion that "a God" or the universe would "care about this planet" and the concept that the inhabitants on this planet are "super special". Again this stems from the Christian concept of "God". There is a reason why this planet is full of suffering, conflict, crimes and violence that no one can explain, but expecting "a God" to solve it all or rejecting the idea that "a God or the universe" would truly care about this planet is exactly based on the expectation that from the Christian point of view, it's all "God's" business and it is what under "a God's" control and what "a God" can handle and is responsible for at the present. The Christian perception on "God" is one polar extreme of the misconception on the true divine, higher forces and beings and the mysteries of them, while defying the Christian concept of "God" and considering it as the only one to defy, or to accept, is yet another rigid, polar extreme of perception on the mysteries of the higher, divine in the universe.

The Christian and Judaic God never exists, but it does not mean that there is no God.

Most people expect or perceive "God" as omnipotent, and that is a false belief. When human suffering arises, atheists, agnostics and other skeptics simply dismiss the existence of higher, divine forces or beings because on the unconscious level, they, too, expect "God" to be omnipotent, or otherwise, they do not believe, or are not sure, that such divine beings exist. It's all about extreme viewpoints, the dualistic mind, rigid polarity for judgment, and wrong expectations.

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posted March 18, 2009 12:38 PM            

juni

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posted March 19, 2009 11:44 AM              

LEXX,

This might have thrown a spoke in the wheels back in Galileo's time, but does anyone still think the earth has to be the "geographical" center of a less-than-ubiquitous universe, in order for there to be a loving and attentive God? I suspect you may be the only one left who still thinks so. It seems to me that the rest of us have had several centuries to get used to the idea that God's love and awareness might be so vast that "He" is actually capable of taking a concerned interest in the most remote corners of His Creation, without suffering the slightest diminution of Himself. If God is, above all, present in the laws that govern all activity in the universe, physical or otherwise, and if He therefore underlies everything that happens or can happen, does He literally have to be present in order for His will to be active in our hearts, minds, and lives? Moreover, if we are all a part of God, and God's awareness extends to every part of His being, then He does not have to go anywhere, let alone cross the universe, to lend an ear to us, does He? But we should not even imagine God as consisting of parts. God does not move in part, or concern Himself with this or that part of His Creation. God moves, and everything moves. It is only we who focus on the parts, and think that God would have to be some kind of multi-tasking micro-manager, in order to be active in our lives. Check that. It is only you who thinks so.

posted March 19, 2009 01:00 PM              

what you wrote speaks for itself.

so does what i wrote.

posted March 19, 2009 03:27 PM            

Interesting edit lexx

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posted March 19, 2009 09:48 PM            

I look forward to further input from you!

"God" is not omnipotent, not omnipresent, not omniscient when even they themselves are not complete and hence in a rather helpless state. I use the word "God" as a very generalized reference for all various concepts of deities with a monotheistic, pantheistic and male-oriented or neutral connotation. This planet, all the other celestial bodies, the galaxies, all there is in the universe, are the manifestations of "God", but this does not mean "God" is omnipresent and is here to "answer all the prayers". "God" is not "almighty". Both the majority of religious people and atheists have unrealistic expectations of "God"/god/the Gods.

posted March 20, 2009 11:12 AM              

Thank you, LEXX. Same to you.
I guess we all have all the answers,
when we listen to our hearts.

posted March 20, 2009 11:57 AM            

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posted March 21, 2009 01:39 PM              

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This might have thrown a spoke in the wheels back in Galileo's time, but does anyone still think the earth has to be the "geographical" center of a less-than-ubiquitous universe, in order for there to be a loving and attentive God? I suspect you may be the only one left who still thinks so. It seems to me that the rest of us have had several centuries to get used to the idea that God's love and awareness might be so vast that "He" is actually capable of taking a concerned interest in the most remote corners of His Creation, without suffering the slightest diminution of Himself. If God is, above all, present in the laws that govern all activity in the universe, physical or otherwise, and if He therefore underlies everything that happens or can happen, does He literally have to be present in order for His will to be active in our hearts, minds, and lives? Moreover, if we are all a part of God, and God's awareness extends to every part of His being, then He does not have to go anywhere, let alone cross the universe, to lend an ear to us, does He? But we should not even imagine God as consisting of parts. God does not move in part, or concern Himself with this or that part of His Creation. God moves, and everything moves. It is only we who focus on the parts, and think that God would have to be some kind of multi-tasking micro-manager, in order to be active in our lives.

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If the Almighty doesn't already have one on retainer, you'd make a fine defense attorney, HSC.
Sometimes I have vague Thomas Aquinas flashbacks while reading your posts.
I mean that in a good way.

posted March 28, 2009 10:59 PM            

Your exact views on god/Gods/GOD and the universe are much anticipated. I'll be waiting for you to share your thoughts with us. It surely will be fascinating to hear!!!