posted May 02, 2009 02:27 PM            

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allegory
Noun
pl -ries
a story, poem, or picture with an underlying meaning as well as the literal one [Greek allēgorein to speak figuratively]

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Secondly...
If we come from a biblical viewpoint...
Read carefully...
There are TWO CREATION STORIES....WITH TWO SETS OF RULES AND A DIFFERENT "GOD" IN EACH.
The first is God, the second is LORD God, and neither is the same entity.
Note too, neither created...
And the first one, "God", told the people (an entire population, NOT simply a male and female, and NOT in the Eden Zoo with the restrictions)Iin the tales/myths, he told the humans to REPLENISH THE EARTH.....WELL THAT MEANS IT WAS BEING RENEWED, NOT CREATED....FROM A PREVIOUS EXTINCTION/DISASTER....a thing the Earth has gone through many times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_event

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v.tr.
1. To fill or make complete again; add a new stock or supply to:

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Here we see no restriction of food from trees.
Also the word replenish.
Also the entity here is called God.

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001:028 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and

multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have

dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the
air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

001:029 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing
seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree,
in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it
shall be for meat.

001:030 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air,
and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there
is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was
so.

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Here we see here a radically different scenario, with the Eden Zoo restriction.
Also the entity here is calling itself LORD God....and is NOT the same entity as God in Genesis One.

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002:008 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there
he put the man whom he had formed.

002:009 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree
that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of
life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of
knowledge of good and evil.

002:015 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of
Eden to dress it and to keep it.

002:016 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of
the garden thou mayest freely eat:

002:017 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt
not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou
shalt surely die.

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And note:
Eve was not told to not eat of the tree, only Adam was.

There were many creation stories that predate the biblical ones.
Just Google "creation stories" and see for yourself.
And there is also the Lilith tales of which there are many versions.
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/l/lilith.html

posted May 02, 2009 10:57 PM            

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001:026 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea,
and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over
all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth
upon the earth.

001:027 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God
created he him; male and female created he them.

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The other version in Genesis two, with LORD God and the Eden Zoo.

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002:007 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and
breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became
a living soul.

002:008 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there
he put the man whom he had formed.

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002:021 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he
slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh
instead thereof;

002:022 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a
woman, and brought her unto the man.

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To continue with the story, and the merging of the people of the creation
story of God in Genesis one....and the the biological separate line of Adam/Eve
in Genesis two, from LORD God, not God.
Whilst that entity did his Eden Zoo experiments...
The rest of the planet was already inhabited by the beings from the creation
in Genesis one.

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004:016 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in
the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

004:017 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and
he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the
name of his son, Enoch.

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As to sin, there was no sin.
LORD God was not God, not the God of Genesis one.
For the sake of example..
Let us say there was an Adam and Eve, in Genesis two.
Such beings, unlike the people of God in Genesis one....
were like animals or children brought up without any contact
of an educational/civilization type.
Like animals do not know they are naked, nor think about life, death, pain,
childbirth and so forth, because it is natural.
Only while giving birth or dying do animals experience, but only as sensation,
not with a philosophy or concern...it just is.
Animals live each moment, not thinking of the long term future and so forth.
And so were the two, Adam and Eve.
Then they ate of the tree of knowledge.
Obviously it was not a tree...or not a tree as we know it.
I submit their intellect was being suppressed by whatever else they were eating,
keeping them as submissive pets of the evil demiurge/blind god, the LORD God, of their Eden Zoo.
There was some chemical in the fruit of the Tree Of Knowledge that
was the antidote to the suppression of the mental intelligence and
emotional intelligence of the two prisoner pets in the Eden Zoo.
I theorize that perhaps childbirth was going to be done by cloning and or artificial
insemination while the pets were unconscious. I theorize that the Zoo was shielded
and no one could leave it nor could anyone outside get into it.

So there was no sin nor was there a punishment.
They were simply not allowed to stay any longer in the cushy Eden Zoo where they
lived in a weather controlled terrarium type environment.
An enclosed garden, a habitat.
An Eden Zoo.
It would have been like a curse to be thrust out into the wild real world.
To those who have read or seen the book or movie:
"Brave New World"
it deals in some ways with humans who are used to an artificial habitat and the
natural real world is terrifying to them.
Another movie is Logan's Run.

posted May 06, 2009 03:36 AM            

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posted May 15, 2009 12:42 AM            

Existence is not divided in to two or three or many. It is one.

There is a reason they say we live in a Universe and not in an Multiverse. And scientists goes on dividing our world. Its good their complex M-theory and all that nonsense seems to be stuck in the rut LOL
I mean I believe in science , but it is still a philosophy and will always be.

Have you ever questioned your department head why they give titles as PhD in all areas of education? Doctor of Philosophy.
Even till today most prestigious universities stick to that and nothings changed. Have you? This is what I meant when I said be wise , not knowledgable. Serpent in that story represents wisdom.
Do not thrash his head ...meaning let wisdom fill you and stay away from knowledge. Knowledge is infinite and unending. Why jump in to this viscious circle of knowledge? Socrates not enlightened but very wise guy said 'knowledge is power'. I think the west has misintreped this word knowledge that socrates spoke of. it should really be 'wisdom is power'. Not that you are meant to be powerful and play all the games of the world. But it is wisdom that will guide you in this journey of life.

Oh boy ... I can go on typing this story... got to catch sleep soon.

I have met people in America who swear by the bible and every word of it. I mean I too was blind, but now I am not. All that doubt I harbored has been solved. Only the mystery remains. There no longer is any question in me but just acceptance of everyone I come across humans, plants, trees...
i too do not make any distinction -- hehe sort of living in a spiritual communism.

Indeed communism is a reality but only in existence. No one is considered richer or poorer, taller or shorter, white or black, gay or straight so one.

All the distinction is of the mind, of ego.

The opposite of love may be hate ...but when we are in communion with existence , there is no hate of the other we are love itself after surrendering to life.

There is no past no future -- but only this moment. It is mind that lives in past and future ...our reality lives in the present.

posted May 18, 2009 11:36 AM            

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Existence is not divided in to two or three or many. It is one.

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posted August 14, 2009 04:34 AM            

1)god made eve from adam how in the world can you make a human being from a persons ribs. i mean we know women can have kids but too change it around and have a man give life from his own flesh sounds too unreal too me.

2)if they had no self awareness of what they were doing when they gave in to the snake AKA the devil. then its not really considered a sin if they didnt know they were doing it. would it.

3)so in order to have created the human race which is now us. they had to commit a sin. so why is comitting a sin bad if it makes us realize what we are doing so we can learn from what we have just done.

4)also that story of lilith who was the first wife of adam but was kicked out of the garden of eden because she didnt listen to god and had no desire to be on the bottom when adam wanted sex.i also read that adam and lilth were brought upon by god and the devil too see if they could have good and evil co-exist together as one. but sadly it did not happen.

when lilth disopeyed adam by not wanting to be on the bottom she wanted to be on top which god viewed as a sin and kicked her ass out of eden. he then made eve from his ribs.

posted October 10, 2009 05:01 AM            

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posted November 01, 2009 05:55 PM            

Indeed, I will... but give me some time... I think Lexx had wrote about this, too. Hopefully, if she gets a chance, she'll give you some food for thought.

posted November 16, 2009 10:41 PM            

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The agreement stated that a new breed of humanity would be created on Earth that would contain the DNA of all interested parties who participated in the "peace" process. A designated area on Earth would be set aside for the creation of this new species. The Earth-based Reptilians of Lemuria agreed to this under the condition that the Reptilian body be the foundation for this new being. This is why the original Bible states, "Let us make man in our own image." This is a plural statement because it was a group project.
http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/draconians.htm

To achieve a new species from a Reptilian androgynous body, it was necessary to separate the genetics into male and female components. This is the allegorical story in the Bible of Adam and Eve. Creating Eve out of the rib of Adam is actually the story of separating the androgynous Reptilian body into male and female. This is why all humans on this planet have Reptilian DNA with Reptilian traits. This is also why human fetuses go through Reptilian-style development in the womb before looking humanoid.

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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost