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Topic: THE CATHAR PROPHECY OF 1244 AD
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ListensToTrees unregistered
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posted April 04, 2009 09:00 PM
In accordance with an old prophecy………The Church of Love is proclaimed in 1986. - It has no fabric - only understanding. It has no membership - save those who know they belong. It has no rivals - because it is non-competitive. It has no ambition, because it only seeks to serve. It knows of no boundaries for nationalisms are unloving. It is not of itself because it seeks to enrich all groups and religions. It acknowledges all great teachers of all the ages who have shown the truth of Love. Those who participate, practise the Truth of Love in all their daily being. There is no walk of life or nationality that is a barrier. Those who are, know. It seeks not to teach but to be, and by being, enrich. It recognises the collectivity of all humanity and that we are all one with the One. It recognises that the way we are may be the way of those around us because we are that way. It recognises the whole planet as a Being, of which we are a part. It recognises that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act, the conscious change of the ego into a voluntary return to the whole. It does not proclaim itself with a loud voice but in the subtle realms of loving. It salutes all those in the past who have blazoned the path but paid the price. It admits of no hierarchy or structure, for no one is greater than another. Its members shall know each other by their deeds and being and their eyes and by no other outward sign, save the fraternal embrace. Each one will dedicate his or her life to the silent loving of their neighbour and environment and the planet, whilst carrying out their daily task, however exalted or humble. It recognises the supremacy of the great idea which may only be accomplished if the human race practices the supremacy of Love. It has no rewards to offer, either here or in the hereafter, save that of the ineffable joy of being and loving. Its members shall seek only to advance the cause of understanding, within whichever church, group or family they happen to be. They shall do good by stealth and teach only by example. They shall heal their neighbour, their community and our Planet. They shall know no fear, and feel no shame and their witness shall prevail over all odds. It has no secrets, no arcanum, no initiations save that of the true understanding of the power of love and that, if we want it to be so, the world will change but only if we change ourselves first. ALL THOSE WHO BELONG, BELONG, THAT IS THE CHURCH OF LOVE
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 54913 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 06, 2009 10:02 AM
Interesting.------------------ "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz IP: Logged |
katatonic unregistered
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posted April 06, 2009 11:28 AM
yes 1986 makes very good sense to me - though i was raised along these guidelines to a large degree, it was 86 that i started rebirthing and REALLY working on it!!IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 06, 2009 02:06 PM
great find LTT, the queen of communication LOLIP: Logged |
LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9745 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 06, 2009 02:32 PM
Nice. However it is still caught in a limited state due to use of the word church. And the following can be interpreted many ways... quote: It recognises that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act, the conscious change of the ego into a voluntary return to the whole.
We are not meant to become a oneness literally. We are already a oneness, most folks are simply not aware of it yet. Telepathy would help to solve that issue. We are to become a cooperative oneness as a species, but still each retain our unique individuality. It is about a sharing, caring, cooperation, understanding, not a merging. So the line: quote: It recognises that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act, the conscious change of the ego into a voluntary return to the whole.
Is actuall not needed in view of the other lines you quoted: quote: It recognises the collectivity of all humanity and that we are all one with the One.
quote: It recognises the whole planet as a Being, of which we are a part.
I have said it many times... Paradise on Earth is more than just a mere possibility. We have around us, within us, the keys to making Earth, and living life here, a paradise.... When everyone awakens and recognizes this fact. Paradise already exists but few can see it or are willing to share and let it come into being.The Cathars were heavily influenced by Gnosticism. CATHARISM CATHARS I like this definition the best: quote: Gnosis = Greek for Knowledge. Gnosis is the universal perennial wisdom underlying the world's philosophies, religions, arts and sciences.
Speaking of the religious aspects of Gnostic thought/wisdom, the general definition which is here: GNOSIS GNOSTIC Here is a bit concerning the religious variety. GNOSTICISM As with popular religion, much should not be taken literally. There is alot of metaphor and allegory used to explain more complex things. ------------------ A show of envy is an insult to oneself. ~Yevgeny Alexandrovich Yevtushenko The jealous are troublesome to others, but a torment to themselves. ~William Penn, Some Fruits of Solitude, 1693 IP: Logged |
LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9745 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 06, 2009 02:56 PM
John Lennon said it well in his song IMAGINE The concept and the word "religion" needs to fall out of use. That includes such words as "church" also. Religion has too many negative influences and connotations attached...division, control....bias, bigotry..intolerance, wars, persecution......IMAGINE Imagine there's no Heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say that I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will be as one Imagine no possessions I wonder if you can No need for greed or hunger A brotherhood of man Imagine all the people Sharing all the world You may say that I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will live as one ------------------ A show of envy is an insult to oneself. ~Yevgeny Alexandrovich Yevtushenko The jealous are troublesome to others, but a torment to themselves. ~William Penn, Some Fruits of Solitude, 1693 IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 54913 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 07, 2009 06:28 PM
------------------ "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 45 From: always here and no where Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 08, 2009 10:19 AM
I love that Randall iconic smileyIP: Logged |
katatonic unregistered
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posted April 08, 2009 11:33 AM
agreed, LEXX. though i have to say i don't even notice really the "church" part. i just identify with the basic tenets so to speak...i think the date (1244) indicates why they called it a church, because that was the only word they had for it... IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees unregistered
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posted April 11, 2009 11:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q0Eyw3l3XM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GmVajkqLNU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8onbDZmAwhE IP: Logged |
Master_Zeromus Knowflake Posts: 70 From: Stockholm, Sweden Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 25, 2009 01:13 PM
Thanks for posting!Are you a gnostic by any means? AC Taurus/Cancer+MC Capricorn/Pisces/Taurus combo perhaps? Anyways I'm a gnostic and highly spiritual. As Zarathustra is our Prophet we take indeed the Achamanid/Sassanian persia as sacred as those churc christians does with Israel. Polytheistic, dualistic yes. That's why I'm a god and a chosen one at same time. IP: Logged |
Master_Zeromus Knowflake Posts: 70 From: Stockholm, Sweden Registered: Jul 2009
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posted February 24, 2010 10:11 AM
I have to say that their prophesy has already become true but you don't recognize it if you don't belong to it!It's on www.zhna.org IP: Logged |
Nephthys Knowflake Posts: 941 From: California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 08, 2010 12:08 PM
This Church of Love is Wonderful I am joining IP: Logged |
listenstotrees Knowflake Posts: 2138 From: Rivendell Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 23, 2011 11:22 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 1081 From: New York Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 23, 2011 01:21 PM
LTT..you posted at 11:22...nice! IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 54913 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 24, 2011 12:01 PM
Sweet!------------------ "Cooking is like love. It should be entered into with abandon or not at all." Harriet Van Horne IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 54913 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 24, 2011 12:01 PM
Sweet!------------------ "Cooking is like love. It should be entered into with abandon or not at all." Harriet Van Horne IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 54913 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2011 10:50 AM
Oops. How did I dp?------------------ "Cooking is like love. It should be entered into with abandon or not at all." Harriet Van Horne IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 9036 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2015 07:44 PM
Because I`m weary of the same 3 threads being bumped ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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TheTruthIsTheWay11 Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 15, 2015 12:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by ListensToTrees: In accordance with an old prophecy………The Church of Love is proclaimed in 1986. - It has no fabric - only understanding. It has no membership - save those who know they belong. It has no rivals - because it is non-competitive. It has no ambition, because it only seeks to serve. It knows of no boundaries for nationalisms are unloving. It is not of itself because it seeks to enrich all groups and religions. It acknowledges all great teachers of all the ages who have shown the truth of Love. Those who participate, practise the Truth of Love in all their daily being. There is no walk of life or nationality that is a barrier. Those who are, know. It seeks not to teach but to be, and by being, enrich. It recognises the collectivity of all humanity and that we are all one with the One. It recognises that the way we are may be the way of those around us because we are that way. It recognises the whole planet as a Being, of which we are a part. It recognises that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act, the conscious change of the ego into a voluntary return to the whole. It does not proclaim itself with a loud voice but in the subtle realms of loving. It salutes all those in the past who have blazoned the path but paid the price. It admits of no hierarchy or structure, for no one is greater than another. Its members shall know each other by their deeds and being and their eyes and by no other outward sign, save the fraternal embrace. Each one will dedicate his or her life to the silent loving of their neighbour and environment and the planet, whilst carrying out their daily task, however exalted or humble. It recognises the supremacy of the great idea which may only be accomplished if the human race practices the supremacy of Love. It has no rewards to offer, either here or in the hereafter, save that of the ineffable joy of being and loving. Its members shall seek only to advance the cause of understanding, within whichever church, group or family they happen to be. They shall do good by stealth and teach only by example. They shall heal their neighbour, their community and our Planet. They shall know no fear, and feel no shame and their witness shall prevail over all odds. It has no secrets, no arcanum, no initiations save that of the true understanding of the power of love and that, if we want it to be so, the world will change but only if we change ourselves first. ALL THOSE WHO BELONG, BELONG, THAT IS THE CHURCH OF LOVE
It's strange to have found this. I was told the other day by a Psychic that I had a Past Life as a Cathar. I didn't know what Catharism was, but she gave a 1-2 sentence description of it. She said that Cathars had an admiration for Mary Magdalene. At that point, I remembered that I have Asteroid Magdalena conjunct my Sun in my Natal Chart, and I sat there in total shock. Not to mention that everything else she said about me was correct (and helped confirm things I was unsure of). IP: Logged |