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ListensToTrees
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posted April 04, 2009 09:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In accordance with an old prophecy………

The Church of Love is proclaimed in 1986. -

It has no fabric - only understanding.

It has no membership - save those who know they belong.

It has no rivals - because it is non-competitive.

It has no ambition, because it only seeks to serve.

It knows of no boundaries for nationalisms are unloving.

It is not of itself because it seeks to enrich all groups and religions.

It acknowledges all great teachers of all the ages who have shown the truth of Love.

Those who participate, practise the Truth of Love in all their daily being.

There is no walk of life or nationality that is a barrier.

Those who are, know. It seeks not to teach but to be, and by being, enrich.

It recognises the collectivity of all humanity and that we are all one with the One.

It recognises that the way we are may be the way of those around us because we are that way.

It recognises the whole planet as a Being, of which we are a part.

It recognises that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act, the conscious change of the ego into a voluntary return to the whole.

It does not proclaim itself with a loud voice but in the subtle realms of loving.

It salutes all those in the past who have blazoned the path but paid the price.

It admits of no hierarchy or structure, for no one is greater than another.

Its members shall know each other by their deeds and being and their eyes and by no other outward sign, save the fraternal embrace.

Each one will dedicate his or her life to the silent loving of their neighbour and environment and the planet, whilst carrying out their daily task, however exalted or humble.

It recognises the supremacy of the great idea which may only be accomplished if the human race practices the supremacy of Love.

It has no rewards to offer, either here or in the hereafter, save that of the ineffable joy of being and loving.

Its members shall seek only to advance the cause of understanding, within whichever church, group or family they happen to be.

They shall do good by stealth and teach only by example.

They shall heal their neighbour, their community and our Planet.

They shall know no fear, and feel no shame and their witness shall prevail over all odds.

It has no secrets, no arcanum, no initiations save that of the true understanding of the power of love and that, if we want it to be so, the world will change but only if we change ourselves first.

ALL THOSE WHO BELONG, BELONG, THAT IS THE CHURCH OF LOVE


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Randall
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posted April 06, 2009 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

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posted April 06, 2009 11:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes 1986 makes very good sense to me - though i was raised along these guidelines to a large degree, it was 86 that i started rebirthing and REALLY working on it!!

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Mannu
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posted April 06, 2009 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
great find LTT, the queen of communication LOL

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posted April 06, 2009 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice.
However it is still caught in a limited state due to use of the word church.
And the following can be interpreted many ways...
quote:
It recognises that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act, the conscious change of the ego into a voluntary return to the whole.

We are not meant to become a oneness literally.
We are already a oneness, most folks are simply not aware of it yet.
Telepathy would help to solve that issue.
We are to become a cooperative oneness as a species, but still each retain our unique individuality.
It is about a sharing, caring, cooperation, understanding, not a merging.
So the line:
quote:
It recognises that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act, the conscious change of the ego into a voluntary return to the whole.

Is actuall not needed in view of the other lines you quoted:
quote:
It recognises the collectivity of all humanity and that we are all one with the One.

quote:
It recognises the whole planet as a Being, of which we are a part.
I have said it many times...
Paradise on Earth is more than just a mere possibility.
We have around us, within us, the keys to making Earth, and living life here, a paradise....
When everyone awakens and recognizes this fact.
Paradise already exists but few can see it or are willing to share and let it come into being.

The Cathars were heavily influenced by Gnosticism.
CATHARISM

CATHARS

I like this definition the best:

quote:
Gnosis = Greek for Knowledge.
Gnosis is the universal perennial wisdom underlying the world's philosophies, religions, arts and sciences.

Speaking of the religious aspects of Gnostic thought/wisdom, the general definition which is here:
GNOSIS

GNOSTIC

Here is a bit concerning the religious variety.
GNOSTICISM
As with popular religion, much should not be taken literally.
There is alot of metaphor and allegory used to explain more complex things.
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The jealous are troublesome to others, but a torment to themselves.
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posted April 06, 2009 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John Lennon said it well in his song
IMAGINE
The concept and the word "religion" needs to fall out of use.
That includes such words as "church" also.
Religion has too many negative influences and connotations attached...division, control....bias, bigotry..intolerance, wars, persecution......

IMAGINE

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

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A show of envy is an insult to oneself. ~Yevgeny Alexandrovich Yevtushenko
The jealous are troublesome to others, but a torment to themselves.
~William Penn, Some Fruits of Solitude, 1693

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posted April 07, 2009 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Mannu
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posted April 08, 2009 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love that Randall iconic smiley

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katatonic
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posted April 08, 2009 11:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
agreed, LEXX. though i have to say i don't even notice really the "church" part. i just identify with the basic tenets so to speak...

i think the date (1244) indicates why they called it a church, because that was the only word they had for it...

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posted April 11, 2009 11:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q0Eyw3l3XM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GmVajkqLNU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8onbDZmAwhE

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posted August 25, 2009 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Master_Zeromus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting!

Are you a gnostic by any means? AC Taurus/Cancer+MC Capricorn/Pisces/Taurus combo perhaps?

Anyways I'm a gnostic and highly spiritual. As Zarathustra is our Prophet we take indeed the Achamanid/Sassanian persia as sacred as those churc christians does with Israel. Polytheistic, dualistic yes. That's why I'm a god and a chosen one at same time.

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posted February 24, 2010 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Master_Zeromus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to say that their prophesy has already become true but you don't recognize it if you don't belong to it!

It's on www.zhna.org

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posted July 08, 2010 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This Church of Love is Wonderful

I am joining

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posted January 23, 2011 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism

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posted January 23, 2011 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LTT..you posted at 11:22...nice!

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posted January 24, 2011 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sweet!

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posted January 24, 2011 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sweet!

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posted January 26, 2011 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops. How did I dp?

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posted July 15, 2015 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheTruthIsTheWay11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ListensToTrees:
In accordance with an old prophecy………

The Church of Love is proclaimed in 1986. -

It has no fabric - only understanding.

It has no membership - save those who know they belong.

It has no rivals - because it is non-competitive.

It has no ambition, because it only seeks to serve.

It knows of no boundaries for nationalisms are unloving.

It is not of itself because it seeks to enrich all groups and religions.

It acknowledges all great teachers of all the ages who have shown the truth of Love.

Those who participate, practise the Truth of Love in all their daily being.

There is no walk of life or nationality that is a barrier.

Those who are, know. It seeks not to teach but to be, and by being, enrich.

It recognises the collectivity of all humanity and that we are all one with the One.

It recognises that the way we are may be the way of those around us because we are that way.

It recognises the whole planet as a Being, of which we are a part.

It recognises that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act, the conscious change of the ego into a voluntary return to the whole.

It does not proclaim itself with a loud voice but in the subtle realms of loving.

It salutes all those in the past who have blazoned the path but paid the price.

It admits of no hierarchy or structure, for no one is greater than another.

Its members shall know each other by their deeds and being and their eyes and by no other outward sign, save the fraternal embrace.

Each one will dedicate his or her life to the silent loving of their neighbour and environment and the planet, whilst carrying out their daily task, however exalted or humble.

It recognises the supremacy of the great idea which may only be accomplished if the human race practices the supremacy of Love.

It has no rewards to offer, either here or in the hereafter, save that of the ineffable joy of being and loving.

Its members shall seek only to advance the cause of understanding, within whichever church, group or family they happen to be.

They shall do good by stealth and teach only by example.

They shall heal their neighbour, their community and our Planet.

They shall know no fear, and feel no shame and their witness shall prevail over all odds.

It has no secrets, no arcanum, no initiations save that of the true understanding of the power of love and that, if we want it to be so, the world will change but only if we change ourselves first.

ALL THOSE WHO BELONG, BELONG, THAT IS THE CHURCH OF LOVE



It's strange to have found this. I was told the other day by a Psychic that I had a Past Life as a Cathar. I didn't know what Catharism was, but she gave a 1-2 sentence description of it. She said that Cathars had an admiration for Mary Magdalene. At that point, I remembered that I have Asteroid Magdalena conjunct my Sun in my Natal Chart, and I sat there in total shock. Not to mention that everything else she said about me was correct (and helped confirm things I was unsure of).

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