posted May 07, 2009 09:47 AM         

Who really knows what happens after we die....unless one has traveled there and returned....and even then, the place they visited while out of body could be just the tip of the iceberg of all the dimensions/ worlds that there are.

'Gurus' talk of non-attachment and such, harping on about it day and night as if they really know, making plenty of money from the books they sell and classes they run.....and its fine for the busy person who doesn't have time to think and merely needs a little more peace in their life....but for me all it does is raise more questions...in fact I don't see what help there is in being told that life has no purpose, that its all just a dream and we have to find our way back to some indefinable blob of light (or whatever) somewhere.....that suffering is merely because we "fell" into material existence and will only cease when we learn to "let go" of it.......

What good can such "wisdom" bring the soul-sick individual searching for knowledge to ease existence a little....to make day to day life somehow easier to bear?

With the amount of struggles there are in the world, I think what we really want to know is that there is definitely a purpose to it all!

The point of this thread is, to make people think and question that which they read.

You do not need teachers to teach you, although by all means read things people have written when they felt inspired to do so....take that which resonates with your own heart and leave the rest (words can be misinterpreted).

The best place to find the answers is within....and preferably somewhere where you can sit and hear the birds and the wind blowing through the trees.

I think these new insights into science- physics- quantum physics- Nassim Haramein, etc....can also be of inspiration.....even if the left brain can't take it in....it triggers something in our right brain; the overall grasp of the bigger picture.

Sometimes the stuff we read from so called gurus which sounds clever (what comes to mind at the minute is a book called "I Hope You Die Soon" by Richard Sylvester......Such things may be no more than the ideas that have been pieced together by troubled minds who do not really know.

Then again, what do I know?

Are we here for a reason?

Do we suffer, live, create.....just for the sake of some wild "dream" from which we return?

posted May 07, 2009 09:58 AM         

But are these people any more than you and I...beings of flesh and blood and bone?

Ok, so they might be gifted with their charisma and way with words...but this is only because they have become good at it (a combination of practicing and also the stuff that can be accessed from one's dna...our genetic computer that we hand down to our children....which also comes from practice at the end of the day...and can be reprogrammed if we so chose). Bleh- long sentence!
All is consciousness!

posted May 07, 2009 10:11 AM         

part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE9T3NPCywo&feature=related

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPs207qpcek&feature=related

part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoVW4Iim-nY&feature=related

part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS17jyfjbOY&feature=related

part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_krgopnO6hs&feature=related

part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5xzzgrgSSQ&feature=related

part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bwUT-Mo4sU&feature=related

part 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kpw60MMUdc&feature=related

part 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEbSXZzVd_g&feature=related

part 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWHwmIilBdU&feature=related

part 11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWHwmIilBdU&feature=related

posted May 07, 2009 11:59 AM         

I do not believe him.

Even his books are stereotypically new agey titled, and Douglas Adams if he were still in body would I suspect, NOT approve of this guy using part of his book's title in his book title.

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Mellen's upcoming new books, "Journey Through The Light and Back" and " Hitchhiker's Guide To The Other Side"

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posted May 08, 2009 06:53 AM         

A lot of what he says resonates with me, although I think some of the callers who spoke near the end sounded a little confused about life in general.

I don't think the truth has to be complicated.

posted May 08, 2009 07:06 AM         

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I just thought it was nice when Mellen said "the physical life is where it's at".

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It makes sense to me that we are all sparks of a divine source experiencing ourselves

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We are God experiencing the human condition and learning and growing.
Creator/Reactor/Creation.
The Creator IS the Creation.

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posted May 08, 2009 11:32 PM         

A lot of teachers out there are indeed looked upon as being the czar of knowledge when in fact knowledge interferes with meeting God. The mystics hits us so deeply when in the story of Adam and Eve they tell you God said 'do not eat of the tree of knowledge'. A tree is green. Why should we question it? Mystics don't. They just enjoy the presence of the tree.

This is the time when a peak in consciousness is once again happeneing. Some need a little push and they can meet God . Some will miss the boat for another 2500 years

posted May 09, 2009 01:24 AM         

i guess the sun rises in the east and sets in the west , thats the way earth-sun ergonomics works really. you just can't change it.

posted May 14, 2009 06:07 PM         

I've been looking at the idea of us all being one consciousness from another angle lately....it's beginning to make sense, and no longer bothers me the way it did. It's really empowering if you can grasp a glimpse of what it really means.

posted May 14, 2009 07:42 PM         

Each must learn the other completely ...

Try to understand the east, it must be difficult but try.

For an eastern the western way of living is outrageous.

Therefore it is said, God is neither male nor female. Not eastern not western.

posted May 14, 2009 08:03 PM         

Lexigrammically

IS GOD AN ACTUAL LIVING BEING?

Anagrammatically

posted May 15, 2009 10:25 AM         

I do not feel able to cope in a 'normal' way in which society expects me to live and survive.

I need to find a way to maintain balance but at the same time I wish there was a way I could contribute without relying on benefits/ welfare money.

It is very difficult to keep a sense of self esteem when those around me who cannot comprehend why I am this way keep giving me their judgments, etc. I have to limit contact.

The soul aches for kinship- in the physical world, not only in the cyber one....but sometimes it seems that the only way to have peace is to be alone.

posted May 15, 2009 08:04 PM         

If you are silent within, you can certainly live amidst the noise. infact you will automatically share the overflowing energy upto 20 miles in the very place you live in. People will be unaware but a great alchemy happens whereever an enlightened being resides.

That gives me encouragement and I have never cried since. Surely very seldom and all of a sudden tears comes rolling as if from a cloud outpour, but it very situational and spontaneous. When you cry otherwise, who is there to wipe away your tears? No one. Just as it is as stupid to kneel and pray to God, it is equally stupid to cry out of sorrow.

It does not mean existence does not love you or care about you. Later will share why. But you are so far away and only you can come back. One way is by seeing lies as lies and truth as truth.

For early spiritual practitioners who are not silent within, they need to go mountaintops and experience the silence outside. If you follow feng shui , you may have heard that they will tell you never build a house on a mountaintop for you will feel lonely.

In the early days of zen monastries people would join the monastery for a short duration and then go back to the normal lives and come back again. They were not ridiculed or looked down upon for coming back to the world. It is very healthy and scientific to constantly change .

posted May 15, 2009 08:25 PM         

Its up to the disciples to desire to help the world or simply dissapear forever and be free after enlightenment.

A Jesus, a Buddha and other gurus taught the world perhaps because they desired it in one of their lifetimes. May be it was their karmic destiny and they had to complete it. If you don't believe in Karma then think of it as a latent desire of them that has to manifest in their last life on earth in body form.

It sounds fun to be one of them...but it isn't. Infact its a miracle that they are still alive in their body after enlightenment. But one needs eyes to see it.

posted May 16, 2009 07:40 AM         

I have a question...I don't know whether you will feel inspired to have any answers or not....Oh never mind....I'm not sure how to put it.

posted May 16, 2009 01:03 PM         

Why is it so difficult to distinguish between the two?

Or is life itself make believe?

If so then I guess the key is to increase one's skill in tuning in to the intuition of the *consensus" collective reality.

posted May 16, 2009 03:34 PM         

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/dicke6.htm

Hacking the MatrixDavid Icke

In our latest interview with David Icke, we sit at Red Rock Crossing in Sedona to discuss how he believes the matrix of human consciousness has been hacked.

David believes that there has been a deliberate mannipulation to our consciousness so that the elite can control the population and steer them away from their divine nature.