posted March 08, 2011 02:03 AM            

What Really Happened In
The Garden of Eden?

By author
Sherry shriner.

The Secrets of Enoch 31:5

And he understood his condemnation and the sin which he had sinned before,
therefore he conceived thought against Adam, in such form he entered and seduced Eva, but did not touch Adam.

Let's start at the beginning of Genesis chapter three:

Genesis 3:1-6

1. Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

In the Hebrew the word serpent is Hebrew word # 5175: nachash (naw-khawsh'); a snake (from its hiss). From # 5172: nachash (naw-khash'); a primitive root; properly, to hiss, ie: whisper a (magic) spell; generally, to prognosticate: to practice divination, to divine, to observe signs, to learn by experience, to diligently observe, to practice fortune telling, to take as an omen.

This obviously is describing a person, and not a literal reptile.

This serpent is no ordinary snake! It is Satan himself. The serpent is just one of Satan's many names. In the book of Revelation there are several of Satan's names identified, but it is all the same one entity such as serpent, devil, or dragon.

The word tree is Hebrew word # 6086: `ets (ates); a tree (from its firmness) from # 6095:`atsah (aw-tsaw'); a primitive root; properly, to fasten (or make firm), ie: to close the eyes. figuratively: The spine giving firmness to the body (The body is the trunk, and the arms and legs are the limbs).

And God uses the word "trees" symbolically in the scriptures to mean People both good and bad. And below is just one example of 'trees' being used symbolically for people:

Isaiah 61:1-3

1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified. (KJV)

Back to Genesis:

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

The phrase fruit of the tree is Hebrew word # 6529 periy- fruit, in a wide sense: a) fruit, produce (of the ground), or b) fruit, offspring, children, progeny ( used of the womb), or figuratively c) fruit (of actions). The phrase eat of it is Hebrew word #398; 'akal (aw-kal'); This word has many uses, among which, one use means to lay with a woman (which is a sexual act) touch is Hebrew word # 5060; naga` (naw-gah'); Properly, to touch, ie: to lay the hand upon (for any purpose); euphemism for: to lie with a woman.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

The word serpent is Satan. The phrase Ye shall not surely die is the first lie in the Bible, and it was Satan as the serpent that uttered it! Satan is called "The father of lies."

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

The phrase your eyes shall be opened is the second lie in the Bible, and Satan is also the author of this one. Remember from verse one, that the tree that the serpent wants Eve to partake of means: "To close the eyes," as in being deceived, and losing sight of the only commandment from God at that time:

Remember God said to Adam in Gen 2:17, "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Anyway on to verse 3:6

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

posted March 08, 2011 02:04 AM            

This sure doesn't sound like Eve is just enjoying an apple, this is far more than an appreciation for literal fruit on a literal tree. All of this language is figurative and symbolic for what really happened. Does the account above sound like someone eating an apple to you? Of course not, but you have probably been lied to since Sunday School about what really happened in the garden of Eden.

Here is what really happened in the garden of Eden: Eve lost her virginity to 'the serpent,' whom was that 'Tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the midst of the garden,' and who is none other than Satan himself.

By the way, I haven't seen the word 'apple' mentioned in these scriptures yet, have you? You won't either, nowhere in God's Word does it say that Adam and Eve ate an apple! Yet we see modern religious paintings showing Eve holding an apple. Why? Because it makes for good symbolism and makes a better story to hide what really happened.

Adam also partook of this 'forbidden fruit.' Satan is a super-natural being possessing supernatural powers, thus he can appear to Adam and Eve as two different things (beings, entities) if he had wanted to. Eve partook of the fruit of Satan, and then gave it to Adam and he ate of it...in other words, she was seduced by Lucifer to have sex with him, then she had sex with Adam and introduced Adam to the act of sex.

She was impregnated and conceived by the serpent first, then she conceived a second time from Adam. It is believed and not medically impossible that Eve got pregnant by both Satan and Adam at the same time and thus went on to bear twins (Cain and Able).

Genesis 3:7-13

7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Eating apples doesn't make you ashamed of your nakedness! But losing your innocence and your virginity certainly can. We also notice that they didn't make masks to cover mouths that had just eaten apples; they made aprons to cover their 'private parts' because they were now more conscious of them and embarrassed.

Nowhere in God's Word does it say
that Adam and Eve ate an apple!

Simply eating an apple does not do this to anyone! Fruit does not make one aware or conscious of whether they have clothes on or not.

8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled*1 me, and I did eat. (KJV)

posted March 08, 2011 02:05 AM            

Beguiled used in this text is the same as "seduced." Furthermore, Scripture says Cain "was of that wicked one" he was a son of Satan's through the seduction of Eve. The term "of" is the same that means offspring. Neither is Cain listed anywhere in the descendents of Adam which strongly indicates Cain was not his son. The official beginning of the wheat and the tares began with Eve. The wheat AND the tares.

The tree of knowledge was the means to sexual knowledge they received from Lucifer. Knowledge is to "know." Knowing means to perceive, experience, learn. It is also used as an euphemism of "to know someone" sexually as when Adam "knew" his wife. The terms eat, touch, and know are often used in Biblical lingo for sexual relations. Lucifer was the way of knowing good and evil. He was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil because through him they would learn evil, they would perceive evil, and they would experience it.

Who was the tree of life in the Garden of Eden? Yahushua was. Who was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? Lucifer. How do we 'eat of the tree of life?" We commune with Him. We are never to commune with Lucifer, and in this instance he seduced Eve, impregnated her, and began his own genealogical offspring and seedline on this earth that is part of us today.

Gen 3:14-15

14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

The phrase upon thy belly shalt thou go is A Hebraic (figure of speech) for utter defeat as in Ps 72:9 & Isa 49:23. The phrase dust shalt thou eat = A Hebraism (figure of speech) meaning an ultimate term of degradation, as in Ps 44:25.

Now the next verse will also show us the first mention of the promise of the Messiah Jesus Christ. This verse also contains the first prophecy in the Bible:

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed it shall bruise thy. head and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The word enmity is from the Hebrew word #342 'eybah (ay-baw'); from 340; hostility: a primitive root; to hate (as one of an opposite tribe or party); hence to be hostile. The phrase between thee and the woman = Not enmity between a garden snake and a woman, that doesn't even make sense! But enmity between the offspring of the serpent (Satan) and the offspring of the woman (Eve, through Adam, and thus of God). Between thy seed and her seed = seed: Hebrew word #2233 zera`- seed, sowing, offspring, a sowing, seed, semen virile, offspring, descendants, posterity, children. From #2232:to become pregnant, to be made pregnant. The word it refers to Jesus Christ. The phrase bruise thy head means Jesus destroying Satan. The word thou = Satan and bruise his heel = Satan causing the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

Jesus' heels were bruised when He was nailed to the cross. The offspring and descendants of the serpent (Satan) are called Kenites (which means sons of Cain; whom was the first murderer). These Kenites multiplied, and in the process of time four-thousand years later, went on to infiltrate the Hebrew peoples and distort the Hebrew religion of the Old Testament founding the religion of Judaism. It must be pointed out that all Hebrew peoples are not Jews! The term "Jew" is a religious moniker not a national identity as alleged.

Cain and Able were what is called 'Fraternal Twins.' Which is one birth of two children, conceived at different times. Cain was born first, then Abel

Satan knew that the Messiah Jesus Christ would come through the lineage of Eve. This was the first attempt by Satan to destroy the pure seed line that Christ was to come through.

Satan is fearful of Christ because he knows that it is Yahushua, Jesus Christ who will eventually accomplish casting him into the lake of fire (Hell), which will be his eternal punishment. We know that Satan's plan failed with the ultimate birth of Yahushua Jesus Christ who upon his crucifixion, defeated death, which is to say defeated Satan. Satan is death, it is one of his many names and roles he has played and will play in the Bible.

posted March 08, 2011 02:06 AM            

Most church pastors today will pull out Genesis 4:1 which reads, "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord."

There are many omissions and translation errors throughout the Bible. The Dead Sea Scrolls confirm that Genesis 4:1 was tampered with. In fact the passage should read:

posted March 08, 2011 02:07 AM            

In the Aramaic Targum, pseudo-Jonathan, which shows us that Genesis 4:1 has obviously been tampered with at some point by these evil infiltrators. It should actually be read as follows; And Adam knew his wife Eve, who was pregnant by Sammael (Satan), and she conceived and bare Cain, and he was like the heavenly beings, and not like the earthly beings, and she said, I have gotten a man from the angel of the Lord. Lest there be any doubt in the readers mind as to the identity of Sammael in this passage, we read in The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, according to Jewish theology…the destroyer or angel of death appears under the name Sammael (i.e. the poison of God), who was once an arch-angel before the throne of God, and who caused the serpent to tempt Eve. According to Weber, he is not to be distinguished from Satan.

These and other aberrations of our nearly worshipped King James translation of the Bible are not surprising however, as there has been a concerted effort to thwart the purposes of YHWH throughout scripture. This situation is no different. The Holy Scriptures of YHWH seem to be vulnerable to these evil men’s tactics, just as are his people.

We can read where YHWH warns us of such an infiltration, when we read in Jude verse 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares (secretly), who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (literally unbridled lust, as in the garden), and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

For further support of this idea of Biblical tampering, we read Sir Thomas Moore’s words in reference to Tyndale, in the Journal of English and Germanic Philology, (Tyndale) was guilty of intentionally mistranslating the Bible. And Tyndale’s translations were one thing that eventually led to his death at the stake!

Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh, in their book entitled The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception also support this idea of deception and tampering by saying, There is virtually unanimous agreement among all the concerned parties … that the history of Dead Sea Scroll scholarship does constitute a scandal. And there would seem to be little doubt that something irregular … lurks behind the delays, the procrastinations, the equivocation, the restrictions on material.

posted March 08, 2011 02:08 AM            

In fact there are many:

I John 3:12 "Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his (half) brother.." Here the word "of" in Greek is #1537 in the Strong's Concordance. When used implying a person, it means "a son of or offspring."

Compare this with other translations:

The New Testament in Modern English: "We are none of us to have the spirit of Cain, who was a son of the devil.."

Living Bible: "We are not to be like Cain, who belonged to Satan.."

New English Bible: "..unlike Cain who was a child of the evil one.."

New Century Bible: "Do not be like Cain who belonged to the Evil One."

New Jerusalem Bible: "..not to be like Cain, who was from the Evil One.."
And the popular commentaries confirm the same thing:

The Wycliffe Bible Commentary page 1473: "He (Cain) is said to have belonged to the family of the wicked one."

Matthew Poole's Commentary on the Holy Bible, volume 3, page 936. "Which showed him (Cain) to be of that wicked one, of the serpent's seed: so early was such seed sown, and so ancient the enmity between seed and seed."

Matthew Henry's Commentary, volume 6 page 1077: "It showed that he (Cain) was as the firstborn of the serpent's seed.."

In John 8:44 Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees and proclaimed, 'Ye are of your father the devil.." The term "of" meaning generation, offspring. They were of the physical seed of their father the devil.

Trees are often used as metaphors in regards to people. Jesus was the "tree of life."

We also find:

Mat 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Mat 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by [his] fruit.

Before Adam even had a chance to consummate his relationship with Eve, she was already pregnant with Lucifer's child, Cain. And that is what the Illuminati bloodlines of the New World Order don't want you to know. They are Cain's seed, of the wicked one. And it is this bloodline of Cain that is working together through the control of vast wealth around the world that is bringing the Antichrist to power.

Genesis 5:1, Cain is not mentioned in the lineage of Adam because he was not Adam’s seed, but of another, as we read in I John 3:12: Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one and slew his brother. Also in John 8:44 we read: Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own, for he is a liar and the FATHER of it. What was the first lie ever spoken? Ye shall not surely die. Who spoke it? Satan, the serpent did when he spoke to Eve and became the father of lies. Who was the first person murdered in the Bible? Abel. Who killed him? Cain, his brother, who was of that wicked one. (I John 3:12.)

posted March 08, 2011 10:21 AM            

PS.
Read again of Cain and Able.
The evil Yaweh loved the bloody butcher Able and his bloody gruesome sacrifice of dead lambs and black smoke and burning fats of lambs and such.

Can was the gentle vegetarian farmer who lived as the God in Genesis One told humanity to do, eat of all and any tree...not animals.

That evil false god Yaweh, the LORD God of Genesis two and his Eden Zoo,
hated Cain and Cain's vegetarian offering,
even up to mocking and laughing at his vegetable offerings,
teasing him and rejecting him and his gentle hard labored acquired offerings.
Of course Cain was upset.
And you can bet that the lazy bloody animal butcher Able,
bragged and gloated and teased sweet gentle hard working Cain for being a wuss and not being a bloody animal butcher which their god loved....."hee hee, the LORD loves me not you, nynah nynah!"
The people of Nod and the rest of the planet were the children of the God in Genesis One.
Adam and Eve;
some experimental result of The false LORD God of Genesis two;
most likely intended to be retarded to boot.
Read again too;
The line of Cain gives us art, music, poetry and so forth and are of the line of the God in Genesis One and the people of Nod, his creation.
Adam's gives us wars and other uncivilized ugliness things.
Adam and Eve;
came long after there were already scores of humans living on this planet, already created
by the God of Genesis One.
After he rests in Genesis two...
the false LORD God shows up,
so stupid and blindly arrogant (the blind god Samael)thinks he is a creator, tweaking what God had made and setting his "monkeys",
his "dirt people" in his Eden Zoo.

History is written and so is mythos,
by the victors not the weak.
Evil is often stronger than good.....
so of course,
we have been fed the lies that came from the rapists, murderers, war lovers, conquerors,
(this link for examples of these evils; http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm)

and very little is told from the good gentle folks, the artists, the musicians, the vegetable/fruit farmers, the true humans.

Rant over for now........

posted March 08, 2011 10:53 AM            

Now I would like to state few simillarities that i considered between our views.

1. I Dont consider jesus to be of a virgin birth.
2.I do think he was born in march unlike december.
3.I do think he had had a Twin Brother(they were fraternal twins)His twin brothers name was Jude thomas
4.I also am quite sure Jesus had been to india and mary's grave is rooted there.
5.I do consider mary magdalene to be his escort aid or better half or whatever.
5.Im coming to terms with paul being the false apostle which might be true.
And few others that I might add later.

What I disagree with you completely is
1.Jesus christ escaped crucifixion.
2.Lucifer is not a fallen angel.
3.able and cain role reversal.
4.Yahweh is the evil Demiurge

posted March 08, 2011 11:00 AM            

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
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People seek eternal existence through the act of having children, To pass on the DNA, To Live on after you have died.

"Eternal Life"

Good and Evil? Concept of duality and learning through the other. Yin and Yang.

Good will never fully rule.
Evil will never fully be defeated, It keeps returning, as that is what it is supposed to be doing, Here in this plane.

The degree of goodness or evil is based on the people involved. Present Day? Evil is considered Unnatural Chaos.

The Evil I refer to is Natural Chaos.

Because guess what? It happens.

posted March 08, 2011 11:07 AM            

But instead we killed many people and continued the cycle of destruction and evil.

Funny world eh? No its not.

Pretty simple when you put the pieces together.

Evil is vanquished in the heart of those involved, that is the test many have and many fail.

They build entire orders to defend against the very thing they endorse, but are not aware because they are dim minded and easily tricked.

posted March 08, 2011 11:09 AM            

To shoot an idea and kill it, you must kill the person that has it.

Which is what people on both sides of the fence of good and evil love to do.

Blood Lust is too Strong of a Desire for those in Power to let go of, The high is too strong.

posted March 08, 2011 11:19 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by rajji:
Lexx
I dont understand how can you reverse able and cains identity??
It becomes a total identity crisis..can you give some insights as to what makes you say that?
I respect your views as much as mine.

Now I would like to state few simillarities that i considered between our views.

1. I Dont consider jesus to be a virgin birth.
2.I do think he was born in march unlike december.
3.I do think he had had a Twin Brother(they were fraternal twins)His twin brothers name was Jude thomas
4.I also am quite sure Jesus had been to india and mary's grave is rooted there.
5.I do consider mary magdalene to be his escort aid or better half or whatever.
5.Im coming to terms with paul being the false apostle which might be true.
And few others that I might add later.

What I disagree with you completely is
1.Jesus christ escaped crucifixion.
2.Lucifer is not a fallen angel.
3.able and cain role reversal.

so that said you can put forth your views too.

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Thank you for being amiable to discussion on such issues.
I need to go for a bit, but shall return ASAP!
I will try to give some replies;
albeit not complete at the moment....

quote:

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Originally posted by rajji:
Lexx
I dont understand how can you reverse able and cains identity??
It becomes a total identity crisis..can you give some insights as to what makes you say that?

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quote:

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Originally posted by rajji:
Lexx
What I disagree with you completely is
1.Jesus christ escaped crucifixion.
2.Lucifer is not a fallen angel.
3.able and cain role reversal.

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quote:

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Originally posted by rajji:
Lexx
so that said you can put forth your views too.

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posted March 08, 2011 11:23 AM            

I can look, but not touch.

Having them binds part of the soul here, imho.

After all, it takes a spark to ignite a fire.

Spark of Life, Fire of Existence.

I think you loose and gain things with having a child.

posted March 08, 2011 11:42 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by rajji:
The word serpent is Satan. The phrase Ye shall not surely die is the first lie in the Bible, and it was Satan as the serpent that uttered it! Satan is called "The father of lies."

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

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quote:

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5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

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posted March 08, 2011 01:04 PM            

That was not mine.

What I said was below that part.

Using the quote box, or just asking would have saved you all that typing.

posted March 08, 2011 01:08 PM            

That is made possible by people ******* and having children so souls can be reincarnated.

posted March 08, 2011 04:23 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Mblake81:
I did not use the quote option for Rajji's post lexx,

That was not mine.

What I said was below that part.

Using the quote box, or just asking would have saved you all that typing.

Sorry lexx.

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I wanted to reply anyhow to those words.

posted March 12, 2011 03:13 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Mblake81:
For me personally, Children can be considered forbidden fruit.

I can look, but not touch.

Having them binds part of the soul here, imho.

After all, it takes a spark to ignite a fire.

Spark of Life, Fire of Existence.

I think you loose and gain things with having a child.

Just my opinion

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MBlake your kundalini snake theory reminded me of you when i read the following....

posted March 12, 2011 03:16 AM            

To fully understand the rape of Eve one must be familiar with the legends of Lilith and the Fall of Man. Briefly according to Hebrew rabbinic writings Lilith was the first wife of Adam, created by God as twins joined together. Lilith demanded equality with Adam, especially during sexual intercourse not always being beneath. When Adam refused to her demands Lilith hastily left him fleeing to the Red Sea where, according to other legends, she copulated with Satan begetting the demonic Djinn or one hundred babies a day. God sent three angles to fetch her, but Lilith refused to return. Thus God gave Adam the docile Eve. But when Lilith saw Adam with Eve she remembered the Holy Beautiful One and rushed back to take her place, only it was too late, God had locked her out by the cherubim.

In the legend of the Fall of Man one sees Eve being tempted by the serpent. According to Christian belief the serpent was Satan in disguise; another name for Satan is Samael, Lilith's demonic lover. The Kabbalists carried this lore further by saying that menstrual blood was a curse upon women descending from Eve's sexual union with Lilith in the guise of Samael. When Lilith had seen Samael in his serpentine form seducing Eve she became envious and entered the act herself. The Eve's menstrual blood became the actual 'filth and the impure seed' of Samael. This follows the rabbinic lore that Lilith in Serpent form was able to seduce Eve because of the inherent lustfulness and weakness of women. In turn Eve seduced Adam during her menses. Once Adam defiled himself through this forbidden act, Lilith became strong 'in her husks' and was able to come to him against his will to steal his seed to engender many demons, spirits, and Lilin.

posted March 12, 2011 03:24 AM            

Such power is of both a magical and sexual nature. It has always been present in alchemy as the term menstruum, meaning menstrual blood. Its use in alchemy is associated with its occult meanings, both life and death. The occult virtues for menstrual blood have completely different sets of associations in Western occultism from the blood within the body. Menstrual blood while in the body nourished and empowered, but once it flowed out it was almost universally believed to sterilize, destroy, and kill. According to some these characteristics naturally made it the blood of Lilith. Throughout history menstrual blood has been described as having magical properties rendering it serviceable for many uses which range from deadly to useful purposes. Two noted authors were the Roman Pliny the Elder and Agrippa.