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Topic: Why Do Christians Have A Bad Reputation?
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PlutoSquared
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posted March 26, 2011 12:36 AM
  
I personally feel it is because the Religion has used a lot of fear tactics, judgment, manipulation and guilt to control the masses.I also think many are highly suspicious of people who claim to be more godly than other people, and who use their religious affiliations to judge others... A lot of people continue to use these methods to spread the word, and I think many are just jaded with what we've come to understand Christian people to be... What do you think? IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted March 26, 2011 12:59 AM
I have comments but shall refrain for now.
LOL!
My rant would be rather long.------------------
~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Nikola Tesla
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~Balance is not letting anyone love you less than you love yourself.~Felipe
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PlutoSquared
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From: Mars
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posted March 26, 2011 01:12 AM
quote:
Originally posted by LEXX:
I have comments but shall refrain for now.
LOL!
My rant would be rather long.
Well, I'm asking for your rant, whenever you're ready and have the energy. As, I feel that your input will be valuable, for sure. IP: Logged |
LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
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posted March 26, 2011 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Well, I'm asking for your rant, whenever you're ready and have the energy. As, I feel that your input will be valuable, for sure.
Thank you! 
Ready I am!
Need to recharge first.
I will return to rant!  IP: Logged |
rajji
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posted March 26, 2011 04:33 AM
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Randall
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posted March 26, 2011 09:33 AM
They have earned their reputation. Not only throughout the ages but in modern times as well.IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
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From: Mars
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posted March 26, 2011 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
They have earned their reputation. Not only throughout the ages but in modern times as well.
Please elaborate. I was hoping someone would be specific. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 26, 2011 11:56 AM
Besides the sad and obvious which Pluto stated, there are factions divided on "what" it entails to be called a Christian. Most of Orthodox Christians believe the Law of the Pentateuch (Old Testament) changed and one is saved by Grace. The Pauline Doctrine is a harsh division among Christians. The others stand (myself included) on what Jesus the Christ stated Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
KJV
Naturally there are too many subtle reasons to go into with the exception of the actual understanding of what the Christ was Teaching. So often his parables are misconstrued, twisted, taken literal and and used to the advantage of the Church`s specific doctrine being espoused . ------------------
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PlutoSquared
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posted March 26, 2011 12:12 PM
Are you a Christian, Juniperb?IP: Logged |
juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted March 26, 2011 12:15 PM
Born and bred one. Chosen by Faith.------------------
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Randall
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posted March 26, 2011 12:32 PM
I like your brand of Christianity, Juni!  ------------------
"All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
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From: Mars
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posted March 26, 2011 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Born and bred one. Chosen by Faith.
Wow. I suppose I have a lot to learn, here. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted March 26, 2011 01:21 PM
Randall, my brand of Christianity is based on what the Christ Teachs. He clearly said: Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. That includes ones wisdom and knowledge. Share it but do not beat another to accecpt it. Mat 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. That also means be kind and gererous to anothers beliefs and actions. To me, he Teachings of Christ is Christianity. Not dogma or doctrine. ------------------
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juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted March 26, 2011 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Wow. I suppose I have a lot to learn, here.
Perhaps I need to clarify.
I chose Christianity after many many years of studying Holy Texts. ------------------
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Randall
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posted March 26, 2011 01:44 PM
I know, Juni. ------------------
"All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared
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From: Mars
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posted March 26, 2011 01:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:
Randall, my brand of Christianity is based on what the Christ Teachs. He clearly said: Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. That includes ones wisdom and knowledge. Share it but do not beat another to accecpt it. Mat 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. That also means be kind and gererous to anothers beliefs and actions. To me, he Teachings of Christ is Christianity. Not dogma or doctrine.
I don't understand, Juni. So, do you think that emulating Christ is what it means to be a Christian? IP: Logged |
juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted March 26, 2011 02:14 PM
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I don't understand, Juni. So, do you think that emulating Christ is what it means to be a Christian?
It is an excellent start, yes? Think of it as a stepping stone ------------------
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PlutoSquared
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posted March 26, 2011 02:46 PM
Honestly, there was a time where I really emulated Christ, and then I met someone who really abused me and took advantage of me.So, I flung in the opposite direction and started fighting because I didn't want to be taken advantage of again. Now, I'm just trying to figure out... That if we're called to emulate Christ... does that mean, we let ourselves become martyrs, too? IP: Logged |
LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 26, 2011 03:19 PM
I have difficulty expressing my views on such issues due to I do not believe in the mythos so it is hard to discuss the sayings/teachings because I do not believe in
a deified Jesus, but Yeshua the man.
I believe the Christos to be an evil energy of the false God which would overlay folks who were anointed in any of his names,
and cause some to have delusions of deification, or others to believe it.
I see sayings/teachings which have been attributed to Jesus, but which Jesus?
Yeshua or Jesus?
Not the same man.
I do not believe in the crucifiction/crucifixion,
nor the ascension of any person.
I am not alone in some of my views.The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors (or Christianity Before Christ) is an 1875 book written by Kersey Graves. I do not agree with all he said but he made valid theoretical points. Christ is a title not a name.
It simply means anointed.
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a·noint (-noint)
tr.v. a·noint·ed, a·noint·ing, a·noints
1. To apply oil, ointment, or a similar substance to.
2. To put oil on during a religious ceremony as a sign of sanctification or consecration.
3. To choose by or as if by divine intervention.
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Christ [kraɪst]
n
1. (Christian Religious Writings / Theology) Jesus of Nazareth (Jesus Christ), regarded by Christians as fulfilling Old Testament prophecies of the Messiah
2. (Christian Religious Writings / Bible) the Messiah or anointed one of God as the subject of Old Testament prophecies
Funny thing as there was no Jesus of Nazareth, but Yeshua.
And he was not "Christed"
That is a myth, perpetuated by Paul/Saul of Tarsus, law abiding Jew who followed the Judaic law who found himself a new gig when he got tired of killing and persecuting so called Christians.
Yeshua did not follow such nor preach such Judaism, hence even his own family and some followers thought him insane and a law breaker because he did not condemn Helenistic ways nor was he out to overthrow Rome.
Most of Yeshua's teachings were based on Buddhism which he studied during the so called lost years.
And other things he learned in his first 9 or so young years in Egypt.
Jesus/Yeshua of Nazareth
and Jesus Bar Abbas of Judea
were cousins from the Solomonic line.
Both even called son of the father;
both born in Bethlehem, but one in Galilee and one in Judea.
Yes, there were two "little towns" of Bethlehem.
I have explained all of this previously.
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LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
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posted March 26, 2011 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
I personally feel it is because the Religion has used a lot of fear tactics, judgment, manipulation and guilt to control the masses.I also think many are highly suspicious of people who claim to be more godly than other people, and who use their religious affiliations to judge others... A lot of people continue to use these methods to spread the word, and I think many are just jaded with what we've come to understand Christian people to be... What do you think?
Why Do Christians Have A Bad Reputation?
You have clearly stated some of the reasons.
Many nasty groups claim to be Christian such as the KKK.
Others do indeed adhere to some old rules and abuse their wives and children and exhibit intolerance and hatred towards other religions or folks without religion or even other races.
Many feel that as long as they confess they can do as they wish.
Just like the JWs they trespass on private property and many stick their nose in things where they are not wanted nor should be as in the legal/political systems.
See the discrimination thread for my rant about Christians.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000391-2.html And my rant here along with Chahdean: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000333.html I feel like puking every time I see a crucifix.
It is quite disgusting and terrible and a selfish misguided form of voodoo repeatedly done by millions for centuries to a good loving soul. Good thing the mythos was not about a beheaded or dismembered or electrocuted or whatever so called saviour.
I can only imagine "shudder" what horrific image would be dangling from their necks, on their walls, in their churches instead of crucifixes.
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juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted March 26, 2011 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Honestly, there was a time where I really emulated Christ, and then I met someone who really abused me and took advantage of me.So, I flung in the opposite direction and started fighting because I didn't want to be taken advantage of again. Now, I'm just trying to figure out... That if we're called to emulate Christ... does that mean, we let ourselves become martyrs, too?
I identify all too well with that human reaction to abuse. To become a maryter is to go to the extreme and no extreme is spiritually , mentally or physically healthy.
Remember when Jesus spoke of the children, he didn`t mean 2 yr olds but all God ,the Fathers, Children that followed the path and sacred teachings. You are one of his children so pray for right Guidence and you shall have it. "Expect a Miracle" L.G. edited personal info ------------------
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LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
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posted March 26, 2011 04:10 PM
Pray if you wish, but to God.
Or better yet, do as NDW and have real conversations with God.
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PlutoSquared
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From: Mars
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posted March 26, 2011 06:02 PM
Thanks both Juniperb and LEXX for your suggestions. I appreciate the advice.IP: Logged |
LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
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posted March 26, 2011 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Thanks both Juniperb and LEXX for your suggestions. I appreciate the advice.
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Mblake81
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posted March 31, 2011 01:22 PM
wake me up when its all over.IP: Logged |
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