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bethcarliseh Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Mar 2011	posted April 26, 2011 06:52 AM IQ, what do you think about the zionists. I have made no judgements. I would just like a discussion on what anyone knows about them. IP: Logged
Chahldean Moderator Posts: 121 From: Everywhere I've Been Registered: Jun 2009	posted April 26, 2011 07:12 AM Halo Bethcarliseh Boy, you certainly like to open those cans huh? Another controversial topic worth addressing. WIll do so when I have a bit o Time. ------------------ Gnosis ThySelf but alas... Knowledge must bow to Spirit IP: Logged
Chahldean Moderator Posts: 121 From: Everywhere I've Been Registered: Jun 2009	posted April 26, 2011 07:13 AM Halo Bethcarliseh Boy, you certainly like to open those cans huh? Another controversial topic worth addressing. WIll do so when I have a bit o Time. ------------------ Gnosis ThySelf but alas... Knowledge must bow to Spirit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 8986 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 26, 2011 07:28 AM dp IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 8986 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 26, 2011 07:31 AM edit IP: Logged
Venus Knowflake Posts: 97 From: Beirut, Lebanon Registered: Mar 2011	posted April 26, 2011 07:32 AM oh my! I'm an Arab, and just by reading the title i could feel my heart beating in my throat. i have the utmost respect for Jews, but zionists.. the only vibe i get from them is hatred and discrimination.. that being said i hope my oppinion doesnt bite me in the a** may God save Jerusalem and bring peace to the Middle East. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 8986 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 26, 2011 07:33 AM If anyone wants to ask me anything ,they can,as long as it is respectful and a genuine question. If I sense anything other than that,I will ignore . I have gotten smart ------------------ If you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will forgive you But if ye forgive not men their trespasses,neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 8986 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 26, 2011 07:34 AM edit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 8986 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 26, 2011 07:47 AM You got me on my MOST passionate subject of all lol I will say one thing before this probably explodes. From a Biblical perspective,it will NEVER be solved while we are all on the earth. It has spiritual roots.It will ONLY be solved with a spiritual solution. Man's heart and Man's soul must change for this to be solved on the earth plane. It won't happen,according to the Bible,not in THIS Age in which we are living. When this age ends, there will be the Millenium where there will be peace on Earth. Then,it will not be an issue. That is why I will not argue.I will only give my unique perspective ,if anyone wants it. To me, arguing is useless ------------------ If you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will forgive you But if ye forgive not men their trespasses,neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
bethcarliseh Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Mar 2011	posted April 26, 2011 09:31 AM I look forward to your response Chaldean. Interesting Ami. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 8986 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 26, 2011 10:12 AM This topic is gonna call me back like a half eaten bar of chocolate To be totally technical,no hooplah,no religious opinions one way or another--JORDAN was the land give to the Palestinians WHEN the land was divided after WW2. The Arabs picked ,first, the biggest,"best" piece of land. The Jews got the leftovers.The Jews made the desert bloom. Israel supplies the WHOLE Middle East with fruit , vegetables,and flowers. The Jews died in the swamps of malaria making that barren piece of desert in to an Oasis. It is STILL a spiritual battle and always will be. However, Jordan was given as the Palestinian land ,on this natural earth. ------------------ If you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will forgive you But if ye forgive not men their trespasses,neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
dysfunctionalmystic Knowflake Posts: 280 From: Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 26, 2011 10:15 AM And all this has got what to do with astrology Bethcarliseh? IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 8986 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 26, 2011 10:15 AM edit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 8986 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 26, 2011 10:17 AM edit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 8986 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 26, 2011 10:18 AM Yes,Dysfunctionalmystic It should be in another forum lol ------------------ If you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will forgive you But if ye forgive not men their trespasses,neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
dysfunctionalmystic Knowflake Posts: 280 From: Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 26, 2011 10:33 AM Hopefully it'll get moved The subject is too emotive for many and I understand that people have their views but it's not astrology. Personally I sit on neither side of the fence because I'm consciously agnostic IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 8986 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 26, 2011 10:42 AM I don't want it here,either Dysfunctionalmystic I am gonna e mail Lala to move it lol ------------------ If you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will forgive you But if ye forgive not men their trespasses,neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1383 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009	posted April 26, 2011 11:30 AM moving this thread to Devine Diversities IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 8986 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 26, 2011 11:53 AM edit IP: Logged
juniperb Moderator Posts: 1780 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009	posted April 26, 2011 12:23 PM bethcarliseh, are you asking about The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion or the plethora of ideologies encompassing Zionism? ------------------ ~The Earth Laughs In Flowers~ ... Emerson IP: Logged
juniperb Moderator Posts: 1780 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009	posted April 26, 2011 12:49 PM The term "Zionism" itself is derived from the word Zion (Hebrew: ��, Tzi-yon�), referring to Jerusalem. I confess the ideologies of Zionism is beyond a cohesive concept for me. The Protocols were from an earlier writings. A version of them appeared in 1864 in France in a book titled "Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu or the Politics Machiavelli in the Nineteenth Century by a Comtemporary. Anonymously written by Maurice Joly. In the mid 1890`s it was rewritten with anti Semitic material. Objective? To relieve public pressure on the Czar by portraying Russian revolutionaries as pawns of a Jewish conspiracy. So the Protocols have been 'in the light' since at least 1864. Lots of excellent info in "Rule by Secrecy" by Jim Marrs. I await Chahldeans insights to give us depth to either meaning of Zionists And I will add a question to him. Who do you suspect Maurice Joly was? juni ------------------ ~The Earth Laughs In Flowers~ ... Emerson IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 8986 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 26, 2011 01:20 PM To add for anyone who does not know how Israel came to be,I will tell that. There was no State of Israel before WW 2. There were promises in the Bible of Jewish homeland but no actual Jewish state. ------------------ If you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will forgive you But if ye forgive not men their trespasses,neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 8986 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 26, 2011 01:24 PM The Holocaust happened cuz there was no PLACE for the Jews to go. Hitler wanted to ship the Jews out,you could say,but no country would take them. After the Holocaust, England divided up land between the Jews and the Palestinians. The Palestinians chose ,first.They chose what is now called Jordan. The Jews took the left over portion,as I said above. My point in writing these new posts was to say that Israel was born OUT of the Holocaust. ------------------ If you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will forgive you But if ye forgive not men their trespasses,neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 8986 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 26, 2011 01:25 PM The CONCEPT and PRACTICE of Zionism is very simple. Do the Jews have a right to their homeland as listed in the Bible? Some people feel yes.Some people feel no.If you say yes,you are a Zionist. That is Zionism 101. ------------------ If you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will forgive you But if ye forgive not men their trespasses,neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Winged Leo Knowflake Posts: 364 From: Registered: Jan 2010	posted April 26, 2011 01:46 PM Hi Ami, Can you please cite which Surahs/Ayats have led you to believe those views you have now? IP: Logged

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