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LEXX
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posted June 05, 2011 10:31 AM
  
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Who is this? How sure are you of that--percentage wise--10%,50%, 80% 100%
Please write down your answer with reasons why you chose this person.
I will be back--with the info
As to the answer.
It was meant to be vague so they could make it fit any one they chose.
Add in that they added for thousands of years to it;
and well;
I am 100% sure it is not about any specific person. It is a false prophecy with redaction after redaction.
Garbage.
Redaction is
Things added after the fact to appear to be prophecy when it is false.
There were many messiahs.
Well so called messiahs or anointed/christed ones.
Too tired at moment to dispute.
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Ami Anne
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posted June 05, 2011 10:43 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Who is this? How sure are you of that--percentage wise--10%,50%, 80% 100%
Please write down your answer with reasons why you chose this person.
I will be back--with the info
quote:
Originally posted by LEXX:
As to the answer.
It was meant to be vague so they could make it fit any one they chose.
Add in that they added for thousands of years to it;
and well;
I am 100% sure it is not about any specific person. It is a false prophecy with redaction after redaction.
Garbage.
Redaction is
Things added after the fact to appear to be prophecy when it is false.
There were many messiahs.
Well so called messiahs or anointed/christed ones.
Too tired at moment to dispute.
However Isaiah is a bunch of redacted false prophecy.
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
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posted June 05, 2011 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
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Ami Anne
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posted June 05, 2011 12:45 PM
Ditto Baby  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted June 05, 2011 12:52 PM
Ami Anne, if you desire a knowflake to respond to your posts in an open intellegent conversation, one must be open to a difference of opinion/belief and accept their diversity as this forum is ment to be. To reject someone because their belief is different, is to shut your self off from them.  ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted June 05, 2011 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Ami Anne, if you desire a knowflake to respond to your posts in an open intellegent conversation, one must be open to a difference of opinion/belief and accept their diversity as this forum is ment to be. To reject someone because their belief is different, is to shut your self off from them.
Well Juni
*I*am simply stating ,in my way, that I cannot offer myself cuz I do not feel people take what I say seriously ENOUGH for me to make the effort to share it any more.
So, in my own way I am saying Good Bye  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted June 05, 2011 01:40 PM
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juniperb
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posted June 05, 2011 01:45 PM
Ami Anne, This is good material and the subject deserves discussing. If you want sharing here, and I believe you do, you can`t flounce off to your room everytime you judge someone elses opinion to be trivial , not serious or contrary to yours. I hope you change your mind and stick with it because it really isn`t debate but sharing of ones self and belief. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted June 05, 2011 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Ami Anne, This is good material and the subject deserves discussing. If you want sharing here, and I believe you do, you can`t flounce off to your room everytime you judge someone elses opinion to be trivial , not serious or contrary to yours. It is not debate but sharing of ones self and belief.
Juni
*I* will give a Biblical POV but will NOT argue it --is the best way to say where I stand .
If I feel I am arguing for arguing's sake which I do NOW I need to depart as I am doing.
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
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posted June 05, 2011 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Juni
*I* will give a Biblical POV but will NOT argue it --is the best way to say where I stand .
If I feel I am arguing for arguing's sake which I do NOW I need to depart as I am doing.
Ami we all know you buy the bible 100%.
Therefore there is nothing to discuss with you is there?
I do not understand why you post such things.
This is not a study the bible verbatim forum for believers only.IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted June 05, 2011 03:43 PM
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Ami Anne
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posted June 05, 2011 04:00 PM
I post to SOMEONE out there who may care what the Bible has to say.
You obviously don't Lexx but there is a big world of people who read LL  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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katatonic
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posted June 05, 2011 05:42 PM
ami i for one would like to know why you took OFFENSE that i could not answer your quiz question...? how do you interpret that as resistance/arguing?just for the record i have (had) a very good friend who "found jesus" - she will not speak to me anymore because though i accept jesus as one of the "avatars" of human history, and a great teacher of high consciousness, i do not accept him as THE one. end of relationship of 25 years in one convo. this is what offends me about SOME religious believers. their fear of anything that does not back up their precious belief. if this is your stance, too, then you are right, there is nothing to discuss. but YOU started this particular discussion with a question and WANTED an answer...so...? IP: Logged |
juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted June 05, 2011 05:55 PM
Ami Anne, I am well versed in the Holy Texts,especially the Bible. I know Lexx is as well. Once upon a time she and I debated (yes in our case debated) it tooth and nail for ages. Slowly we realized we had different Faith/beliefs and were not going to help or change anything by burning up the pages. Not to say it didn`t have a function, but we were at loggerheads and simply gave respect and a wide berth to each for our beliefs. I am a Christian, she is not yet I respect her for her beliefs. That`s what Diversity is all about  Point is we tried to share without anger, insults or running away when questioned . Stand strong in your beliefs when you share them and be prepared for some insights to how other people think, feel and believe. You did it in the Zionist thread so I know you can !! ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted June 05, 2011 05:55 PM
It is not fear.I have no interest.
This may sound bad but you have nothing to teach ME cuz I KNOW the Truth. So,if you don't care to hear what *I* have to say,I don't have the time for idle chatter that goes no where.
I simply have no interest. ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted June 05, 2011 05:58 PM
I appreciate your sweetness Juni but I do not like to debate Darling.------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted June 05, 2011 06:01 PM
I did not say YOU should debate but rather lexx and I once did. There is a difference in debating and sharing beliefs Debating is more a Scorp/Aqua thing  ------------------
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katatonic
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posted June 05, 2011 07:43 PM
i am STILL waiting for an answer to my very undebating question as to WHY you consider it antagonistic for someone to NOT know the answer to your opening question?IP: Logged |
LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
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posted June 05, 2011 08:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:
Ami Anne, I am well versed in the Holy Texts,especially the Bible. I know Lexx is as well. Once upon a time she and I debated (yes in our case debated) it tooth and nail for ages. Slowly we realized we had different Faith/beliefs and were not going to help or change anything by burning up the pages. Not to say it didn`t have a function, but we were at loggerheads and simply gave respect and a wide berth to each for our beliefs. I am a Christian, she is not yet I respect her for her beliefs. That`s what Diversity is all about Point is we tried to share without anger, insults or running away when questioned . Stand strong in your beliefs when you share them and be prepared for some insights to how other people think, feel and believe. You did it in the Zionist thread so I know you can !!
Thank you juniperb 
My longest time close friend since 1969 is a Christian. We have wonderful long discussions on biblical matters, scholarly talks, often many for 10 or more hours! He is friends with high level clergy and tells them things I have said and I get some fascinating second person information and discussion that way.
I have had many long good discussions with clergy of various faiths. There can indeed be room for sharing and discussion.
And I know folks laugh at me, well some do, but I have what I believe to be many past life recalls, and I trust those more that mere writings of others.
I have had these memories of certain times since I was a toddler. I knew things no child should know. So by that token, I was in some of those times, knew some of those people, some very very very well;
and until I can be shown otherwise, I will go with what my heart and soul tell me is true of those memories.------------------
"The thought of suicide is a great source of comfort; with it a calm passage is to be made across many a bad night." - Friedrich Nietzsche.♥
Abundant Love♥ I have and freely give♥
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Ami Anne
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posted June 05, 2011 08:05 PM
The separations between people are just of the earth plane.
We were not made with ego's ,a sense of being separate,me ,mine.
That is where problems come from.
We all have an ego.
I suppose the BEST moments in life are when we can transcend it and look in to another person's eyes and heart and feel the unity of love.
That is the best this world has to offer,imo
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted June 05, 2011 08:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by katatonic:
i am STILL waiting for an answer to my very undebating question as to WHY you consider it antagonistic for someone to NOT know the answer to your opening question?
Well WHO does not KNOW that is Jesus? I mean,Girlfriend. lets be real  ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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katatonic
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posted June 05, 2011 09:44 PM
ami, i do not know that that person was jesus. so yes, let's be real. are you insisting that i don't exist? that even the most devout jews and christians don't have different ideas and interpretations of the same texts?yes PLEASE let us be real. just because i do not know what you understand from the text does not make me a ghost or even an arguer. however if you insist on pretending that EVERYONE knows the answer to your opening post, then you are right, there is no discussion. i had hoped for more faith and, well, charity from you. also an answer that is not just a circular argument. but i can live with the reality that you really don't want to explain.
"remember that you are loved
regard everyone as a child of god - this means everyone
appreciate every fiber of creation as holy;
do not see yourself in the world but the world in yourself
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LEXX
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posted June 05, 2011 11:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by katatonic:
i am STILL waiting for an answer to my very undebating question as to WHY you consider it antagonistic for someone to NOT know the answer to your opening question?
quote:
Originally posted by katatonic:
ami, i do not know that that person was jesus. so yes, let's be real. are you insisting that i don't exist? that even the most devout jews and christians don't have different ideas and interpretations of the same texts?yes PLEASE let us be real. just because i do not know what you understand from the text does not make me a ghost or even an arguer. however if you insist on pretending that EVERYONE knows the answer to your opening post, then you are right, there is no discussion. i had hoped for more faith and, well, charity from you. also an answer that is not just a circular argument. but i can live with the reality that you really don't want to explain.
"remember that you are loved
regard everyone as a child of god - this means everyone
appreciate every fiber of creation as holy;
do not see yourself in the world but the world in yourself
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well WHO does not KNOW that is Jesus? I mean,Girlfriend. lets be real
Ami Anne
Please stop fighting. 
And why should katatonic believe or know your point of view? 
And why does that offend you to the point you feel you have the right to be rude to her?
Not all believe that is about Jesus.
Scholars have been debating the meaning of Isaiah for a long time and to whom it refers to.
I will close this thread if the rudeness continues.
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"The thought of suicide is a great source of comfort; with it a calm passage is to be made across many a bad night." - Friedrich Nietzsche.♥
Abundant Love♥ I have and freely give♥
Because the stream never ends♥
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LEXX
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posted June 05, 2011 11:16 PM
katatonic{{{hugs}}} ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted June 06, 2011 01:12 AM
Well Lexx I talk as I talk. I am as I am.If my being is offensive to you,close the thread
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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