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Randall
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posted August 23, 2011 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting points.

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posted August 24, 2011 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 28, 2011 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I have never been able to come to an interpretation of god that made sense to me. And as time goes on, I find the whole concept of god unnecessary. Things that people attribute to god, I attribute to life. Perhaps it is just a case of semantics. Also, I don't always feel the need to have a name for the things in life that go beyond my realm of understanding, I only feel the need to be aware of them.

Not sure if any of this makes sense, it's hard to put into words.


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posted August 28, 2011 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol! I love your Grading System Mystic!
I miss them...I wanna go back to college now.

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posted August 31, 2011 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was that an insult? It's difficult to work out without the facial expressions and tone of voice?

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posted August 31, 2011 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not at all mystic.

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posted August 31, 2011 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@ Pixiejane Thats why i am weary of religion. Same things happen here also in all the religions. Religion is a path to GOD if followed with proper spirit. But ppl mostly forget the spirit with which the path is to be followed and stick only to the structure. Its like a body without life in it. Religion under such circumstances looses its spiritualism. I therefore turned to spiritualism. But later discovered that here too ppl form groups and compare and envy eachother. So i learnt from all this that the best way is the loner's way. Because spiritualism is nothing but our communion with GOD, our higher self. So anyway there is nobody who can come inbetween. To take a dip within and spread the joy without with love is whats best, i finally concluded.

I realised as i came back here that i forgot to mention something. Though many religious persons i am weary of because of their attitudes there are a few who i respect for their love. eg my friends mom followed her religion to the letter T. She was very orthodox like not eating anywhere else (not even drinking water). My friend used to feel embarrased. I, however, did not feel bad at all because that woman was very very loving. So i understood her need to stick to her chosen path. Another eg was my own mother. She was not orthodox but had some rigid structures, which we had to follow lol. I did follow a few customs (or rather tried to follow lol) but just to keep the piece and take care of her feelings. But i always questioned her and got her exasperated. She was a loving and caring person though. So once when my guide was visiting us (both the parties were against eachother's views, i.e. him and my parents lol) he didn't cross her ways as she was loving and caring. The one and only example of this reaction from him i have seen in my entire interactions with him (otherwise he would openly oppose anybody who he found to be unreasonable according to him). ROFL What fun! Seriously though, i have learnt from observation and experience that love bridges all the diversities. But it is so difficult to love consistenlty.

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posted September 10, 2011 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
to me god is a construct created to help people understand something...and then religions came in with "methods" to get the "blessings" of being good...like politics and science they are just another way of trying to make life work for us...and create community.

unfortunately it becomes solidified as the "only" way to live life, and those who question are put OUTSIDE the box/community/religion/etc.

perhaps god is NOT in hell...though IT is everywhere and everything, or the creative energy that is everywhere and everything...

because HELL is also a human construct designed to frighten people into line.

but god does not have personal preferences about "good" and "bad". it just is. and we are part of it.

IMO!

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posted September 12, 2011 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't it all about perspective? There are creatures that feed on and live in dung. To them, it is far from unpleasant.

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posted September 12, 2011 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah when I was younger, I remember when I was in Chatacism in 2nd grade and the teacher saying God is everywhere...and then I remember asking..."So that means he's in Michigan and China at the same time?????" And the teacher saying "Yes...! He is!"
then I'm thinking 'okayyy...thennnn So is he a flippin giant...or does he split himself up into a billion clones?'

hahaha!

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posted September 13, 2011 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order, as they should be.

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posted September 14, 2011 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I must admit I did have a hearty laugh reading all of the posts.

Randall this is with regards to your post on animals...
I believe all humanity is in the process of evolution.There is a Choice given to us by god.
Some choose to evolve progressively others choose retrogressive evolution...Mysterious are the ways adopted to rise above the inherrent animalistic tendencies, which the animals cannot understand...The Pig will never agree that the gutter is a bad place to be.


The first quote of this topic is an arbitratry satement.

That said the topic in question here is about morality.

Let us Re-consider this satement-
"If God were everywhere, then that means He would be located in Hell,inside Sinners,Atheists and in filthy places like toilets and brothels etc. That is blasphemy. God is All-Holy. He is not within His creation. He is Transcendent. He does not need to be omnipresent in order to be Omniscient. His Presence is beyond the creation, above His throne."

The belief behind this consensus is that “God dictates morality.”
Religions such as Christianity,Islam and judaism relegate all moral authority to God,Hence the Supreme Being and Creator is conceived to be above and beyond Nature.
Beliefs about the powers of the creator god vary in different religious denominations, and the interpretations of these powers can be widely divergent, but one conviction remains universal in monotheistic religion: the creator god determines the moral order of the world. In fundamentalist faith, Moral Design is entrusted to God.
That is the whole essence of it I presume.

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posted September 14, 2011 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as His creations, we are an unbreakable part of Him.. you keep saying sinners and Atheists like they are beneath the human race, they are part of humanity children of God and they too have God in them regardless of how they choose to live their lives.. thats how i see it..

i said this before but i'll say it again, when you say that there are places/people where God is NOT present than you are setting limitations to God's existence, like saying the answer to a mathematical equation is infinity minus a few values, that is wrong its either infinity or not infinity --> God is either infinite or not infinite..

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posted September 15, 2011 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order, as they should be.

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