posted February 05, 2013 09:11 AM            

It's worse than I even imagined.

Interestingly, People magazine featured an anti-Scientology story in this week's issue, breaking what I've suspected is a legal strangehold that Scientology holds over the media, via threat of lawsuits.

posted February 05, 2013 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Suspect people don't realize a series of Vin Diesil films were basically Scientology theology on the screen

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Would that be Chronicles of Riddick? Now that I think about it, it sounds as though it might be vaguely similar to what I think Scientology is supposed to teach about aliens & spirits (though my memory is vague on both)...

posted February 05, 2013 08:30 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Would that be Chronicles of Riddick? Now that I think about it, it sounds as though it might be vaguely similar to what I think Scientology is supposed to teach about aliens & spirits (though my memory is vague on both)...

At least it was watchable, unlike that painful Battlefield Earth, arguably the worst movie ever.

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Chronicles and the Cruise "War of the Worlds" which was more or less Scientology.

Travolta in that much makeup sort of clued me into what that film would be like

posted February 06, 2013 02:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:

The Necromongers were more or less Nazi(s) in comparison, space faring ones...

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Sort of, what they were about, and it's straight from Scientology, is subjecting planets by converting people (and killing them) or just outright killing those who would not convert.

The Nazis on the other hand, had a different approach, they did not want converts they wanted "purity".

Though the necromongers saw a purity in death but it was indiscriminate death.

In that sense to me they were more like the Communists, they really did not care what race whomever was just that the proletariat was oppressed, the necromongers thought everyone was oppressed by life.

posted February 06, 2013 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Haha! I actually enjoyed Battlefield Earth!

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Perhaps that's a sign you should become a Scientologist, I hear liking that movie is a requirement for elite access to their doctrine

I have not seen the Chronicles of Riddick since it appeared first on DVD, and now that I read your description of the Necromongers I remember the whole "Convert" or "Submit" aspect from the DVD menu...

Yea, not exactly Nazi in belief structure, and then I found this comparison with "The Master Culture" as opposed to the "Master Race".

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http://lewrockwell.com/peters-e/peters-e148.html

The Master Culture.

One hears it broadcast daily in the sociopathic narcissism (and solipsism) of our national leaders and leader-aspirants. Obama (and the previous decider) is even more shameless in this way than Dr. Goebbels ever was. Hillary and Rick Santorum and Newtie, too. They may not wear khaki (yet) but their souls are brutally brownshirt. The startling arrogance of our demands that so-and-so “step down” – that “the international community” (that is, the governing clique that controls the US) will not “accept” X (or Y, for that matter). Casual talk of “regime change” . . . in other people’s countries. The even more casual mass killings of amorphous Them in other people’s countries. The serial killer’s utter lack of shame or remorse; the pleasure he takes in his work.

Insolent public declarations about what other countries may and may not do – frosted with the most brazenly hypocritical brayings about “our freedoms” – long since taken away.

And soon, theirs too.

But the true genius of the Master Culture, as opposed to the master race, is its universalism. It is not confined to a region or a people – and so, it is immune to the egalitarian catcall of “racism.” Anyone can join. That is, be forced to join.

All peoples, all cultures are to be subsumed into The One True Culture.

Nazi Germany had built in limits. It was clear – more or less – who was Volksdeutsche. Certainly not blacks and Asians or Indians (India Indians and the American variety) or Mexicans or Arabs or Aborigines. But anyone can be a member of the Exceptional American tribe and thus, a part of the Master Culture. The whole world can be subsumed. No, more than this. The whole world must be subsumed.

Even within its physical borders, American insists on fundamental sameness. On homogeneity of opinion (and range of action) within the bounds of the elaborated orthodoxy. On every town becoming a mirror copy of every other own. Of the same big box stores (aided by crony capitalists via “tax breaks” unavailable to the sole proprietor), the same food, the same McMansions, the same everything – most especially rulers, regulators and laws. Oh, there are minor shades of red and blue here and there – but the theme is the same everywhere and at all times: Collectivism, dressed in a new suit called “democracy.” (A vile form of government those musty dead white men from long-ago warned us about – but who pays attention to them anymore?)

There is a bad sci-movie that articulates the concept excellently. It is called Chronicles of Riddick (sequel to the excellent Pitch Black). It deals with a galactic power called Necromongers. The quest of these Necromongers is conversion. It is their religion. Just before a world is to be assaulted, a “conquest icon” is hurled from space, landing in the capital city of the soon-to-be-enslaved planet. Kind of like the way the US sends its corporations into foreign lands, with or without the consent of the native population. Or even its government.

The Necromongers have a Purifier, too – a Hillary-like official whose job is to make sure the faith is spread. Not by persuasion or appeals to reason. But by force.

Submit – obey.

Necromongers travel from world to world, mercilessly imposing their will and assimilating the populace – who are given the choice: Submit –

Or, die.

Like Exceptional Americans, the Necromongers themselves are not a unique people. Just like Exceptional Americans, they are a diverse people – only, comprised of all the galaxies’ peoples rather than merely the world’s peoples. They replenish their ranks with each new conquest. No one group dominates. It is the idea that’s eternal.

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That Hilary comparison totally cracked me up!

posted February 06, 2013 06:49 PM            

Alas for I am a descendant of Species-8472 and thus carry the same immune system response that renders me incapable of Borg assimilation...

posted August 07, 2013 03:20 PM            

Jenna describes living and working in conditions similar to this:

Today Tonight - Scientology RPF Child Labour Camp (2012-02-14)

posted August 07, 2013 07:50 PM            

I don`t know a lot about Scientology but it seems a closed door and that is always a concern for me.

posted August 07, 2013 09:16 PM            

A person can get sent to a Scientology prison just because the E-meter (crude lie detector) malfunctions. If it swings back and forth while you are under interrogation, you are deemed a "Rock Slammer" (ie "thought criminal") and sent to an RPF prison. They do hard labor and are subjected to all kinds of psy-ops.

This is just the tip of the iceberg.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrX3qou_s-w

Because Scientology so aggressively prosecutes or persecutes those who speak out against them (even Google filters anti-Scientology material) most people have no idea how bad it is.

posted August 08, 2013 12:15 AM            

Your average, public Scientologist is not in danger of falling into these extreme situations. They are just in danger of losing lots of money in the process of becoming deluded. Also they have to divulge all their secrets, something that makes my Scorpio NN recoil in horror.

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posted August 08, 2013 01:18 PM            

I just realized that this biography of Hubbard has been published online:
The Bare-Faced Messiah
Apparently he was a drug addict and compulsive liar. Just the epitome of a Pisces sun in a vicious downward spiral.

Btw I wanted to mention that the criminal elements in Scientology were apparent early on. I hate how much they get away with; they remind me of the mafia.

Has everyone heard of Operation Snow White?

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Operation Snow White was the Church of Scientology's internal name for a major criminal conspiracy during the 1970s to purge unfavorable records about Scientology and its founder L. Ron Hubbard. This project included a series of infiltrations and thefts from 136 government agencies, foreign embassies and consulates, as well as private organizations critical of Scientology, carried out by Church members, in more than 30 countries;[1] the single largest infiltration of the United States government in history[2] with up to 5,000 covert agents.[3] This operation also exposed the Scientology plot 'Operation Freakout', because Operation Snow White was the case that initiated the US government investigation of the Church.[3]

Under this program, Scientology operatives committed infiltration, wiretapping, and theft of documents in government offices, most notably those of the U.S. Internal Revenue Service. Eleven highly-placed Church executives, including Mary Sue Hubbard (wife of founder L. Ron Hubbard and second-in-command of the organization), pleaded guilty or were convicted in federal court of obstructing justice, burglary of government offices, and theft of documents and government property. The case was United States v. Mary Sue Hubbard et al., 493 F.Supp. 209 (D.D.C. 1979).[4][5][6][7]

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posted August 08, 2013 04:28 PM            

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Originally posted by shura:
We had a conversation years ago about Hubbard's questonable occult connections - Parsons, Crowley, etc.

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Yes! The Crowley connection, thanks.
I knew we had discussed it!

posted August 08, 2013 08:17 PM            

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Yeah it's very spooky. One of the former leaders of the church, Mike Rinder, has joined several other ex-Scientologists in accusing the church leader, David Miscavige, of being physically violent. Rinder said in an interview years ago that Miscavige almost strangled him to death more than once.

With that in mind....

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Leah Remini, who left the Church of Scientology last month, has taken her concerns about the wife of the controversial religion's leader to the police.

A source confirms to PEOPLE that Remini filed a missing persons report for the wife of David Miscavige.

The wife of the Scientology leader has reportedly not been seen in public in six years. Church officials have denied that Miscavige is missing, but the King of Queens star, 43, was reportedly punished after she asked the Scientology leader why his spouse wasn't at the wedding of Katie Holmes and prominent church member Tom Cruise in 2006.

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