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charmainec Moderator Posts: 6653 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2013 07:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: If you find a Christian who is always trying to be perfect( and we all hate this type) she does not understand the NT times. I will explain. In New Testament times, a person who has accepted Jesus as personal savior and lord can do ANYTHING and not break the law. That person can kill, steal, do terrorism, hate, rape etc and still have God's grace. Your eyebrows raise. You want to throw tomatoes at me but let me explain. In the NT Dispensation, Jesus has borne all our sins. That means that anything I do is forgiven by God. I can kill a hundred people with a machine gun and still be forgiven. I can hate and act like Hitler and still be forgiven. In fact, God will never cast me out for my actions. Man will punish me. However, Jesus sacrifice made me clean, holy and pure in God's eyes
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 42108 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 27, 2013 08:40 AM
Precious few people understand what it is like to be a Christian. Gods LOVE makes you want to be the best person you can be and to love others( however faltering) The love of God constrains the Christian from evil, not fear. God is love and that is the biggest thing that Non Christians miss. But, you are forgiven, totally. The reason is that God's horrible, horrible death took away anything you could do, anything at all. That was the point of it. You are clean and pure as snow in His Eyes. Not to see that and claim that is to dishonor His sacrifice. It is a shame that people can't see that but I pray for you all and Blessings to you ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 6828 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2013 09:34 AM
Ami Anne:
quote: But, you are forgiven, totally. The reason is that God's horrible, horrible death took away anything you could do, anything at all.
God is not dead . The Christ is/was not God. Charm, indeed and that message is proof of why the poster lives in fear and horror and enacts it on others. ------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 42108 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 27, 2013 09:40 AM
Jesus IS God to the Born Again Christian/Messianic Jew, Juni dear.That is the point of the Bible. I am sorry you missed that ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 42108 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 27, 2013 10:00 AM
It is weird how a person can be in churches and miss the whole point of the Bible but that is what I am here for. PS I do see people who have Replacement Theology miss the whole point of the Bible, though.
------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 6828 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2013 10:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Jesus IS God to the Born Again Christian/Messianic Jew, Juni dear.That is the point of the Bible. I am sorry you missed that
Messianic Jews may believe that (I don`t know) but you are way off base claiming all Born Again Christians believe the Christ is God. Matthew 19:17, Mark 10:18 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God. John 14:28 My Father is greater than I. John 20:17 I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. 1 Corinthians 11:3 The head of Christ is God. 1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. Colossians 3:1 Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. 1 Peter 3:21-22 Jesus Christ: who is ... on the the right hand of God. ------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 42108 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 27, 2013 10:21 AM
ALL BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD. That is the definition, Friend ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 6828 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2013 10:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: It is [b]weird how a person can be in churches and miss the whole point of the Bible but that is what I am here for. PS I do see people who have Replacement Theology miss the whole point of the Bible, though.
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That is a BOLD statement from some one who needed the 5 covenants explained to them, yes? ------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 42108 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 27, 2013 10:24 AM
I was just asking padre for confirmation. TRY again Juni ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 6828 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2013 10:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: [b] ALL BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD. That is the definition, Friend [/B]
This is fantastic because they more you state as gospel, the more it shows your lack of understanding . ------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
charmainec Moderator Posts: 6653 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2013 10:35 AM
I don't believe Christ IS God. I see him as a prophet. We don't need to go to church to learn the meaning of biblical scriptures either. If I were to, it would be from someone who walks the walk, not someone who is so fanatical that they basically condemn any one else to hell who does not practice their faith or constantly rants out their hate for another religion because of the bad deeds of terrorists.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 42108 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 27, 2013 10:41 AM
We can agree to disagree, Juni. I have no bone to pick with you or anyone. Blessings to you, dear and Happy Memorial Day ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 2522 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted May 27, 2013 11:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by charmainec: I don't believe Christ IS God. I see him as a prophet. We don't need to go to church to learn the meaning of biblical scriptures either. If I were to, it would be from someone who walks the walk, not someone who is so fanatical that they basically condemn any one else to hell who does not practice their faith or constantly rants out their hate for another religion because of the bad deeds of terrorists.
I am still in shock at the messages of hate Ami posts. Worse yet, that few here have noticed/notice and worse than that, many by their silence seem to support that evilness.
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Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 2522 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted May 27, 2013 11:59 AM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 28404 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2013 12:39 PM
My mom goes to a Southern Baptist church, and they believe that Jesus is God in the flesh. They believe that Jesus is the Son of God, born of an earthly mother, conceived by the Holy Spirit, and is God born among man to live as a man with man--to face the same tempations as humans--to live a sinless life and offer Himself as payment for our sins. That's what they believe anyway. So, it's not uncommon for Christian denominations to believe that Jesus is God incarnate.IP: Logged |
anascorp Knowflake Posts: 72 From: Jupiter Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 27, 2013 12:48 PM
I am apalled no words would be suffiecient to tell how I feel. If this is divine diversity...please explain♡ IP: Logged |
anascorp Knowflake Posts: 72 From: Jupiter Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 27, 2013 12:52 PM
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 6828 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2013 01:35 PM
quote: So, it's not uncommon for Christian denominations to believe that Jesus is God incarnate.
That in and of it`s self is not uncommon. But what is uncommon for Christians is the totality of AA`s beliefs, which God knows we should know by heart by now, is UNCOMMON and not acceptable to most who are Christians. She laid her cards down and the message is of fear and hate not Love and Faith as the Christ taught.
I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. Mahatma Gandhi God proved His love on the Cross. When Christ hung, and bled, and died, it was God saying to the world, 'I love you.' Billy Graham ------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 42108 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 27, 2013 02:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: My mom goes to a Southern Baptist church, and they believe that Jesus is God in the flesh. They believe that Jesus is the Son of God, born of an earthly mother, conceived by the Holy Spirit, and is God born among man to live as a man with man--to face the same tempations as humans--to live a sinless life and offer Himself as payment for our sins. That's what they believe anyway. So, it's not uncommon for Christian denominations to believe that Jesus is God incarnate.
Yes, thank you for explaining, Randall!
------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 6828 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2013 02:52 PM
Nothing was explained away. All Christians know Paul`s story (from previous post) and most know what Southern Baptists believe or that some believe the Christ is God.. Please remember, it is NOT Christians being bashed. There is a clear distinction between Christians in general and the brow beating Knowflakes are getting from the I am right, you are wrong and going to hell postings.. or anti any other Faiths. There is the rub. Not Christians. Randall: quote: Christianity takes a big hit on Lindaland from critics
(edited this post to include Randalls statement to clarify what I said about Christians not being the issue here + add. thoughts). ) I have been a Christian on Lindaland for 10 + years and never was I treated so demeaningly by another poster with different beliefs. I know it is possable to post with respect and kindness rather you are one Faith or another. Hbr 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
Hbr 13:3 Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; [and] them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body.
------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi
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Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 2522 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted May 27, 2013 03:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by juniperb: Nothing was explained away. All Christians know Paul`s story (from previous post) and most know what Southern Baptists believe or that some believe the Christ is God.. Please remember, it is NOT Christians being bashed. There is a clear distinction between Christians in general and the brow beating Knowflakes are getting from the I am right, you are wrong and going to hell postings.. or anti any other Faiths. There is the rub. Not Christians.
The loving Christians I have personally known would be utterly horrified at what Ami believes and posts here and at her site. The wonderful people I speak of; walked their talk and never preached hellfire and death and destruction, damnation and hatred for non Christians. They loved not hated even those who were not Christians, such as me. Wonderful people. On the other hand, Ami has the same mindset as the terrorists she goes on about and is proud of it. They believe their god will always love them no matter what terrible things they do; as long as it is done to hurt or kill all who do not believe as they do.
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jellyfishtry Knowflake Posts: 240 From: LaLa land Registered: Apr 2013
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posted May 27, 2013 03:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by charmainec: I don't believe Christ IS God. I see him as a prophet. We don't need to go to church to learn the meaning of biblical scriptures either. If I were to, it would be from someone who walks the walk, not someone who is so fanatical that they basically condemn any one else to hell who does not practice their faith or constantly rants out their hate for another religion because of the bad deeds of terrorists.
Thank you Charmainec. at last i can put in words what i believe, as am like you in this, people who quote text after text after text but have never 'walked the walk' or seen real suffering in others or etc...really put me off, it's like all words but no soul or spirit, which beats the whole point of everything......sigh.
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jellyfishtry Knowflake Posts: 240 From: LaLa land Registered: Apr 2013
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posted May 27, 2013 04:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: This attack is a diversion from the Child Sex Scandals rocking Britain. Know about Britain from those who have access to actual happenings on the ground. Just imagine, a Soldier killed in a terrorist attack or killed in a battle? There is a war, and every terrorist and every soldier killed are killed in their battle. The captured killers will be treated as Prisoners of War. When Osama's team attacked USS Cole, it was an act of war, not a terrorist attack. Let us get the terminology right.Second, what kind of terrorists just stand there proudly waiting to be shot? Looks like MK-Ultra Programming. Third, Tamerlane's friend was murdered by an FBI Agent, covering up the Boston attack. Fourth, billions of dollars lost in Oklahoma, thousands are suffering, hundreds could be dead. Incompetent relief work by FEMA is being diverted, just like the aftermath of New Orleans tragedy. One sensationalist news story is enough to allow the incompetence [which should be sued for billions] to be swept under the carpet. Any news outlet or media person who tries to give more importance to irrelevant news over real news that affects a vast number of people has to be a shill working for a shady government department that wants cover ups in place. While some are worried about this "huge Jihadist Global Calammity" in London, God knows what other clause Monsanto has pushed or what other Act is getting ready to further stifle American people.
You missed one important one to IQ, unsurprisingly to do with bankers, Christine Lagarde of the IMF being investigated for embezzlement (now she wasn't charged, but wasn't cleared either..hmmm) won't be surprised if this one ties up to silencing everyone about the Child sex scandal to. IP: Logged |
charmainec Moderator Posts: 6653 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 28, 2013 05:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: [b] ALL BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD. That is the definition, Friend [/B]
Randall was stating that his mum is Baptist and they believe Chris is God incarnate, however,not all Born Again Christians believe that Jesus is God; there are New Born Christians who believe that Christ is the son of God. IP: Logged |
geea Knowflake Posts: 360 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted May 28, 2013 05:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lexxigramer: [QUOTE]Originally posted by charmainec: [b] Worse yet, that few here have noticed/notice and worse than that, many by their silence seem to support that evilness.
More than evilness i see a lot of fear. IMO. it's heartbreaking to know that the prophecies may be true(according to my faith) and that the majority will be condemned...it doesn't bring me any satisfaction whatsoever. Everything that it's said in the bible will happen regardless. In the last days those who had ears to hear and who believe, will still stand a chance(NOT THAT THEY WILL BE NECESSARILY SAVED.. this is pride...) and those who didn't believe but still did good in their life...that only God can KNOW. My job as a christian is to lead a good life, fight the evil inside ME, more than the evil inside others...and pray. As a true Christian you do NOT fear the times to come; if you truly love God and lead a christian life you live in the present with Him at your side. Concerning your life too much with prophecies and stuff is misleading you from the path. If it fills you with fear and hate, is misleading(by Ami knows who). IP: Logged | |