posted August 04, 2013 01:52 PM            

Turning to the New Testament, this is the Books these same Christians take their Faith from.

Perhaps, some would be surprised that these same heathen Christians also take in the disclaimed Gospels or forbidden Gospels as part of their Faith.

posted August 04, 2013 05:13 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
There are those Christians who turned the page on the Old Testament which is based on geneology, history and Laws. These pertained to the people and the times.

Turning to the New Testament, this is the Books these same Christians take their Faith from.

Perhaps, some would be surprised that these same heathen Christians also take in the disclaimed Gospels or forbidden Gospels as part of their Faith.

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That last post on page one
(did you read it?)
is the kind of crap still going on with rabid Christian families/churches;
here some 1/2 a century later than when such happened to me. Yes there are too many rabid believers out there still abusing and brainwashing children and using the bible to justify it.

posted August 04, 2013 05:28 PM            

Reason being, if we focus on the bad, we are consumed by it. Focus on the positive and it may rub off some.

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This is not about yourself, nor ones you speak of;

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posted August 04, 2013 07:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:

When I and others quoted that and many other obscene and or violent verses, when we were children, We got whipped for talking dirty and our mouths washed out with soap, for saying that was in the bible. Oh and punished for questioning the so called good book. Damn religious child abusers. We were all very afraid to talk back and just took the abuse no matter how bloody because the bible tells parents to kill children who talk back. Scary scary childhoods. And sadder because some had it far worse. :'(

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That was only one of the reasons I was gobsmacked by so many fundies saying Harry Potter was too scary and intense for children...or that it was a bad influence and (my favorite) that the readers would have a hard time telling fantasy from reality!

posted August 04, 2013 08:10 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
I seen the post, I read it and I have lived it. I work hard at not promoting them and seek balance between the good & not so good.

Reason being, if we focus on the bad, we are consumed by it. Focus on the positive and it may rub off some.

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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
This is not about yourself, nor ones you speak of;

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Of course this thread isn`t about me. It`s about your focus. But know I will always seek the balance.

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posted August 04, 2013 08:27 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
That was only one of the reasons I was gobsmacked by so many fundies saying Harry Potter was too scary and intense for children...or that it was a bad influence and (my favorite) that the readers would have a hard time telling fantasy from reality!

ETA: I only laugh at the irony of fundies condemning Harry Potter, not the Bible-inspired abuse all too many kids endure, and sometimes die from. Many think my childhood was bad but I feel lucky (blessed?) that I wasn't born into a family of fundies, which is like winning the big lottery when you're from a small East Texas town (aka "Behind the Pine Curtain"). Gods, it could've been so much worse than it was...

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My mother was a Holy Roller/Southern Baptist;
my father an atheist.
(how they got together, long story lol)
My parents divorced when I was about 11.
Yay! No more Christian horrors!
(oh the nightmares persist these 48 or so years later, but at least the physical aspect ended at age 11)
Even though I was abused by his excommunicated Catholic wife;
after he remarried;
at least it was non Christian abuse and even though terrible;
oh so definitely preferable to the rabid Christian nightmarish horrors of before.

posted August 05, 2013 12:02 AM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
I seen the post, I read it and I have lived it. I work hard at not promoting them and seek balance between the good & not so good.

Reason being, if we focus on the bad, we are consumed by it. Focus on the positive and it may rub off some.

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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
This is not about yourself, nor ones you speak of;

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Of course this thread isn`t about me. It`s about your focus. But know I will always seek the balance.

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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
I intended this thread to be a focus on the evils SOME do in the name of their god/religion.
This is not a thread to promote any good you or others see in what you believe.
I am not preaching the so called good,
and ignoring the evil and contradictions which are indeed in the religion.
Too much leeway to pick and choose to be loving or hateful in the bibles.
Most is hateful or bigoted,
and outright obscene.
Sure there are lovely sayings, but mixed in with extreme horrors it looks insincere at best. It is like a person/people saying they love you but only after they have done terrible things, or wow, murdered you.
Sorry this offends you.

[b]Perhaps I will make a thread of the things I do find nice in the bibles.
But that is not the topic of this thread.
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Oh but it must be hard to stare at the ugliness of zelotry and forced religion and i think that seeking and having faith in the good and the balanced is a sure way to help you keep fighting without losing yourself to the very same behaviour you (and many) hate.

Remember that many live needing the warm feel of faith (not religion) in order to thrive during their lives and i think having it will serve only as a plus and thats why juni posted this on the thread. (in my opinion)

posted August 05, 2013 01:25 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
Oh but it must be hard to stare at the ugliness of zelotry and forced religion and i think that seeking and having faith in the good and the balanced is a sure way to help you keep fighting without losing yourself to the very same behaviour you (and many) hate.

Remember that many live needing the warm feel of faith (not religion) in order to thrive during their lives and i think having it will serve only as a plus and thats why juni posted this on the thread. (in my opinion)

Ok done with the off-topic for now

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Does having a voice mean I am a zealot?

I am not out handing out flyers and signs against Christians.

I am not doing anything to them but doing my best to avoid the rabid ones. I have long time Christian friends; we simply stay away from such topics.

If my posts make people lose their warm religious warm fuzzies or faith;
then their beliefs were already on very shaky ground.
To those who are not hurting folks in the name of their god/religion;
my views and exposing the bad people should not bother the ones doing good at all.
If I were a zealot, I would be posting every day dozens of things against the evils of religion.
And believe me, there is enough information out there to do that!
So don't label me a zealot for having a voice and speaking out;
not against all Christians;
but against evils done by some in the name of any god any religions.

PS.
You told me in a bible verse thread to in essence do not fight when I posted a nasty Psalm on that thread. Well, I will do my best not to post even valid information on such happy happy joy joy threads again, even when it was valid.
So same goes for this thread;
please do not preach at me how good religion is here and I will do my best to stay off threads all blithely happy in any religion,
if I do not agree with the things being posted.
I post on the Rumi thread because there is much nice there.
I avoid many threads here and will continue to do so.
A zealot would hijack and crash ALL those threads they disagreed with.
LOL...as many of mine were ruined by hmmm....zealots?
I would be happy to post pleasant things here at DD;
but I seem to spend too much time defending myself every time I voice anything against any kind of religious inhumanity against others.
Rant over.

PS.
Please don't quote me.
Also take note:
I added a disclaimer/warning to my first post on this thread.

posted August 05, 2013 03:27 AM            

Also this one (same vid, later on):
http://youtu.be/tpz8PMcRJSY?t=6m31s

Finally, same vid, should probably share the disclaimer:
http://youtu.be/tpz8PMcRJSY?t=8m9s

posted August 05, 2013 07:52 AM            

Lexx, you`re a hoot, religious warm fuzzies or faith made me chuckle.

I am used to your grumbling, thumbsdown and defenses. NO one here said religion is "good". That`s what I mean about defenses. You are defending what isn`t present.

Faith my friend, is not religion as it is missing doctrine. But you knew that already !

Aw, now I feel all warm and fuzzy . Happy Monday.

posted August 05, 2013 08:49 AM            

Quote me where i say you are a zealot, as i have said no such thing.

I warned you that you can easily become one without any connection to religion, especially since you deal with them here.

No need to attack me without finding out the truth since it will do you no good.

But yes, i do believe ALL SIDES can be more moderate instead of turning the forum into a battleground.

Oh and never EVER try to force words into my mouth or try to blame me with having opinions i have not stated!

posted August 05, 2013 12:50 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
@lexxi

Quote me where i say you are a zealot, as i have said no such thing.

I warned you that you can easily become one without any connection to religion, especially since you deal with them here.

No need to attack me without finding out the truth since it will do you no good.

But yes, i do believe ALL SIDES can be more moderate instead of turning the forum into a battleground.

Oh and never EVER try to force words into my mouth or try to blame me with having opinions i have not stated!

I had enough of that from users who tried to cause conflict here for their very enjoyment/boredom.

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