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Lexxigramer
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posted August 07, 2013 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Arrrghhhh...now one of my replacement posts posted.....
And people I thought "got" me or at least tried to;
don't seem to "get" me like I had assumed they did.
And that seriously sucks.
I give up for now.

This is all so damn depressing and stressful and the damn glitchings don't help.
Best I just give up for a few hours on posting and just observe.

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juniperb
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posted August 07, 2013 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven`t seen it glitching but I made a copy so far.

Maybe let Randall sort it out?

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posted August 07, 2013 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
Arrrghhhh...now one of my replacement posts posted.....
And people I thought "got" me or at least tried to;
don't seem to "get" me like I had assumed they did.
And that seriously sucks.
I give up for now.

This is all so damn depressing and stressful and the damn glitchings don't help.
Best I just give up for a few hours on posting and just observe.

A lot of people are feeling sensitive right now. We're all bouncing off each other. I know it hurts - I accidentally offended someone I like very much, because I was careless with the way I phrased something. I had a cry, but it's stopped now, because I have to trust that it will be sorted. I know it's hard, because it can take a while, and more hurts can accumulate in the process.
There are people here who "get" you, and will continue to do so, I'm sure of it.

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Lexxigramer
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posted August 07, 2013 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:
I haven`t seen it glitching but I made a copy so far.

Maybe let Randall sort it out?


I have made multiple copies.
Not going to post until I know thread has stabilized and I try to clear my head.
The eggshells crunching are freaking me out something awful.

Must go again for now.
NOT TRYING TO BE OFFENSIVE TO ANYONE!
OK???????
Yes that time I yelled.
My apologies,
but I really needed to yell.

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posted August 07, 2013 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps I drew the wrong conclusion about the purpose of this thread. My apologies to all.

It doesn`t appear to follow up on the original question or title of thread so I will let you ladies work the personal issues out.

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Lexxigramer
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posted August 07, 2013 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
A lot of people are feeling sensitive right now. We're all bouncing off each other. I know it hurts - I accidentally offended someone I like very much, because I was careless with the way I phrased something. I had a cry, but it's stopped now, because I have to trust that it will be sorted. I know it's hard, because it can take a while, and more hurts can accumulate in the process.
There are people here who "get" you, and will continue to do so, I'm sure of it.

Thank you sweet teasel.{{{hugs}}}
You are one of the kindest people I have met here and known I think, the longest here;
and you have always asked me privately what I mean if I am not clear to you;
rather than assume things incorrectly.
Thank you teasel.
OK
really must go chill awhile before fear of accidentally p!ssing off anyone(s)overruns my courage and sanity.


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Lexxigramer
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posted August 07, 2013 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:
Perhaps I drew the wrong conclusion about the purpose of this thread. My apologies to all.

It doesn`t appear to follow up on the original question or title of thread so I will let you ladies work the personal issues out.


Was going out of here for awhile;
but saw your above post.

Seems I did it again????
Did I? Do something seen as wrong/offensive or confused folks?
Now I am confused.
Now I am going huh huh what?????
What did I do not do say not say;
what planet am I on?
Sorry I might have done something perceived as "wrong" somehow again.
OK...
going now.......

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posted August 07, 2013 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:
Perhaps I drew the wrong conclusion about the purpose of this thread. My apologies to all.

It doesn`t appear to follow up on the original question or title of thread so I will let you ladies work the personal issues out.


I have no idea what's going on here. My foot-in-mouth happened elsewhere.

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posted August 07, 2013 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lexxigramer:

Was going out of here for awhile;
but saw your above post.

Seems I did it again????
Did I? Do something seen as wrong/offensive or confused folks?
Now I am confused.
Now I am going huh huh what?????
What did I do not do say not say;
what planet am I on?
Sorry I might have done something perceived as "wrong" somehow again.
OK...
going now.......


No, Juni might have been confused by my presence, maybe? From what I had to say?

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posted August 07, 2013 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh my. Beginning to resemble the Tower of Babel in here.

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Lexxigramer
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posted August 07, 2013 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shura:
oh my. Beginning to resemble the Tower of Babel in here.
This thread is not a laughing matter.
Is that how some see it?
I need to give up here for now.
Trying to go chill........

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shura
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posted August 07, 2013 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not laughing at anyone, Lexx. I'm smiling at the futility of continuing this conversation. We all seem to be a bit misunderstood at the moment. It happens sometimes. Can be frustrating, that's true, but nothing I let myself get too upset over.


Please take care, Lexx

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posted August 11, 2013 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shura:
oh my. Beginning to resemble the Tower of Babel in here.

Tower of Babel , appropriate as this was all over the place .

Two intentions here and not one actually got the issue resolved. Imagine that, a Scorp and Aqua not being on the same page .

Specifically, issue in reference being the question posed in the title.

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Lexxigramer
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posted August 11, 2013 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Considering closing this thread as few get my points and it is going off in all kinds of directions (my title was not clear enough it seems) and it has not helped resolve anything.
I will possibly try and to come up with a thread where I can be clearer on what the problems are are how to resolve them.
Also threads discussing any ancient writings concerning the 3 main religions being followed these days;
Discuss, not argue;
but so far that has proven to also be considered by most as extremely taboo topics.
Or will not post any more threads with my povs and only post what makes people happy and is fun, or on mythos like Roman, Mayan, etc. and not anything to remotely do with any religions still being followed in these times. It p!sses too many off.
Well to repeat;
Not sure exactly what I will do.
I feel the heavy weight of censorship upon me.
Oh yes,
I will contribute and be all nicey;
but my hands are quite clearly being tied when it comes to the really important things relevant to these current times.

What century is this?
Anyhow;

PS.
It was suggested to post in GU.
No way!
I avoid that extremely stressful nightmare place with rare exception.

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posted August 11, 2013 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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PS.
It was suggested to post in GU.
No way!
I avoid that extremely stressful nightmare place with rare exception.

Seems you haven`t visited in quite some time!

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posted August 11, 2013 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Seems you haven`t visited in quite some time!


I have.
"shudder"
Some posts I agree with and would like to reply;
but most I disagree with.
Either way,
damned if I do damned if I don't;
so I do not want to post and chance being targeted for personal attacks more than I already have been by some.
Nuff said.

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juniperb
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posted August 11, 2013 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It has become a rather peaceful and sharing community. Nothing at all to "shudder" over

Most of the posts you mentioned are not GU material anyhow but give it a visit!

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posted August 11, 2013 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it's about religion in any way, it goes here. Other bigotry would likely belong in AR.

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posted August 11, 2013 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Or will not post any more threads with my povs and only post what makes people happy and is fun, or on mythos like Roman, Mayan, etc. and not anything to remotely do with any religions still being followed in these times. It p!sses too many off.

Lexx, is someone harassing you about DD off the site? I don't see that your pov regarding religion is pisssing off anyone in this forum.

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posted August 11, 2013 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:
It has become a rather peaceful and sharing community. Nothing at all to "shudder" over

Most of the posts you mentioned are not GU material anyhow but give it a visit!


I looked today, and it still looks mostly too political and
anti Democratic for me, and too much for other things I am against.
I do not need the added stress.
Respectfully I think it best
for all concerned that I stay away from GU for the most part for now.

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posted August 11, 2013 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
If it's about religion in any way, it goes here. Other bigotry would likely belong in AR.
Ok, thank you.

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posted August 11, 2013 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shura:
Lexx, is someone harassing you about DD off the site? I don't see that your pov regarding religion is pisssing off anyone in this forum.
Yes .....again.... same old crap.
Not naming them.
Hopefully they will lay off since I have told them to leave me be.
And you must have somehow missed where folks got mad here. I am not going to drag up those posts/threads to show you to prove my case.
Just pulling back and
only contributing on
or starting hopefully
viewed as tame non offensive potential threads;
whilst just trying to figure out how to proceed from here.


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posted August 12, 2013 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
Yes .....again.... same old crap.
Not naming them.
Hopefully they will lay off since I have told them to leave me be.

I'm sincerely sorry to hear that, Lexx. Please ban them from contacting you, no need to put up with it. If they are pm'ing through LL, perhaps copy the emails to Randall? I'm sure Randall would ban any forum member he knew was harassing one of his forum moderators.

quote:
And you must have somehow missed where folks got mad here. I am not going to drag up those posts/threads to show you to prove my case.
Just pulling back and
only contributing on
or starting hopefully
viewed as tame non offensive potential threads;
whilst just trying to figure out how to proceed from here.


Yes, I'm afraid I did miss it. I come and go, don't look in for long stretches. I've seen plenty of disagreements, of course, and occasionally they become something ugly, but apart from Ami I'm not aware of any conservative fundamentalist Christian here who could possibly take offense with your pov. In fact, my impression is that your safely in the LL majority regarding matters both spiritual and religious.

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posted August 12, 2013 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
Yes .....again.... same old crap.
Not naming them.
Hopefully they will lay off since I have told them to leave me be.

quote:
Originally posted by shura:
I'm sincerely sorry to hear that, Lexx. Please ban them from contacting you, no need to put up with it. If they are pm'ing through LL, perhaps copy the emails to Randall? I'm sure Randall would ban any forum member he knew was harassing one of his forum moderators.

No, not going to involve Randall unless I have to. He may or may not have ideas of the identities of some. At this time I am hoping they will back off and stay as clear of me as possible, and I of them. Of course not always easy when they are here at LL.[/quote]
quote:
Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
And you must have somehow missed where folks got mad here. I am not going to drag up those posts/threads to show you to prove my case.
Just pulling back and
only contributing on
or starting hopefully
viewed as tame non offensive potential threads;
whilst just trying to figure out how to proceed from here.



quote:
Originally posted by shura:
Yes, I'm afraid I did miss it. I come and go, don't look in for long stretches. I've seen plenty of disagreements, of course, and occasionally they become something ugly, but apart from Ami I'm not aware of any conservative fundamentalist Christian here who could possibly take offense with your pov. In fact, my impression is that your safely in the LL majority regarding matters both spiritual and religious.
No, lol, my povs are not as in majority here at LL as you seem to think. LL seems to be becoming more Christian as time goes on. That comes as a surprise seeing how this is not a Christian site. I have gotten wind of some who thought it is a Christian site due to Ami's pink matching LL colors banner with its Christian advertising.
That is however Randall,s business, but it does give that impression, and Ami is a moderator of a few forums.
Again this is not against Ami; I am just saying that the feel all of LL has become rather leaning heavily towards Christian in my and some others povs.
The other issue oddly is some of the worse haters are NOT religious. They see me as being a big meanie towards any religion and have told me I have no right to protest religious bigotry, nor disagree with anyone, nor discuss the bible and contradictions and so forth. There is more, but basically I am being blamed for making DD a war zone and scaring folks away. So unless I totally shut up, or be false and kiss up to folks when I disagree, or never mention bible discrepancies/contradictions and so forth;
I am seen as a trouble maker making DD a bad place and unwelcome.
The thing is;
there are only a few who seem to hate my presence here.
As you thought, my povs are in LL majority;
even though they actually are not;
but few are to my knowledge against me or even care.
But the few who are, and were,
ouch......made me almost leave not only DD but LL.
I stay away from threads now where I know religious bigotry is preached against gays for example. Yes, that is what they are supposed to believe, that gays are an abomination and evil;
so in their view they are simply posting about what their religion tells them to believe and do.
So where do we draw the line when biblical laws say this is how they should think;
but it violates human rights?
Should preaching or posting such hate beliefs be permitted here at LL?
Such beliefs/teachings are in the main 3 Abrahamic religions.
At what point is is wrong to post about what believes and its harmless and at what point is is against human rights and even some modern laws?
I know I am sick of reading about homosexuality is a sin a perversion, etc; and tired of reading about most of humanity is damned to burn in hell for eternity;
tired of this way or that way is the only way.......it just goes on and on.
OK......
I am rambling on and on again.
Do not feel well, more ugh than usual,
sorry, guess I should not be posting;
but I did not want Randall to think I was avoiding DD or was leaving here as mod as one of my posts on this thread had him thinking until I explained.
Going now.


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posted August 12, 2013 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
page three and part of this page just vanished.........
I am going to close this thread because this is the 3rd. glitch that happened while I have been trying to post.
My previous post vanished.
Also closing it because it has gone its run for now.

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