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posted April 16, 2014 07:12 PM            

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I definitely believe in reincarnation and karma, but i can understand how it would seem cruel to think someone deserves the bad things happening to him/her. If someone is in pain, i will not tell him/her "you deserve it". That would be terrible. And i will fight against unjustice the way i see it. Which means, i will try to change a situation for the best even if the victim maybe put him/herself in the hands of cruel people. Why should i care for that? The people abusing the victim are obviously not messangers of the will of God. I too believe in free will. Souls are divine and... they learn through free will. If a soul chooses, on a higher state of consciousness, to run the risk of becoming a victim, it doesn't justify at all the abusers! They must be stopped and punished. This is how it is. God is not "doing" anything because God works through us and through everything. This is how i feel.

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posted April 16, 2014 07:17 PM            

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Thank you, Ayelet.
You hit the target.

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posted May 03, 2014 11:35 AM            

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Many who believe in karma try to help the less fortunate to help their own karma and/or spiritual development.

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I find doing good deeds motivated by the belief that one will be rewarded for it in the afterlife or in the next incarnation pathetic. Why can't you help someone just to help them? Ugh.

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posted May 03, 2014 07:54 PM            

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Actually, they do. Religion is very egotistic. If they want to help then they will, this just makes them feel right with God for it. If they don't want to then they'll see no reason in their religion to help others. Generally speaking, people treat religion as a cafeteria, they take what they want from it and leave the rest (though their families and possibly churches also have a say) and then call it "true religion" with all the other versions as lesser or even fake (and prone to making no true Scotsman fallacies in that regard). In short, it's all about ego. And if they want to help others then that's the part of their doctrine they'll focus on. If not then those suffering brought it on themselves via sins & karma that they shouldn't enable and thus their egotistical "spiritual" beliefs still make them feel better and justified.

What actually scares me are the Christians who say the only reason they're not cannibal rapists is because they believe in God (so only the fear of eternal torment in Hell checks their rabid psychopathic behavior). We even had a politician (Trent Franks) basically said if the government failed to "reaffirm 'In God We Trust'" then we might as well get rid of the government and start killing each other, and thus essentially saying the only thing keeping him from going on a killing spree was seeing "In God We Trust" on money.

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posted May 06, 2014 09:52 AM            

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What actually scares me are the Christians who say the only reason they're not cannibal rapists is because they believe in God (so only the fear of eternal torment in Hell checks their rabid psychopathic behavior).

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Well said It saddens me that religious people have so little faith in human decency.

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posted May 06, 2014 06:00 PM            

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posted May 06, 2014 06:41 PM            

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Don't recall who said this, but:

"We may not always know what is right, but we always know what is wrong."

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posted May 08, 2014 03:36 PM            

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posted May 09, 2014 08:50 AM            

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That's one thing I don't like about the Creed, it encourages lack of responsibility.

If you think you can do anything, and it will be just fine on Sunday, all you have to do is beg forgiveness; that just doesn't seem right.

If you think you only have one life, you don't think in a long-term sustainable fashion, and that's not good for the world at large.

I know for a fact that Karma Happens.

Where do you think the Golden Rule came from?

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posted May 10, 2014 12:25 PM            

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I don't believe in karma in the context of reincarnation nor in God's punishment. Still don't feel like robbing houses

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posted June 01, 2014 03:47 AM            

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Hey, I'm not trying to start a fight. But to me this is rude. There are many people on this website who believe in reincarnation, myself included. To explain contacting the deceased, well some times it takes 100's of years for a soul to choose to reincarnate. Also this is a website of teaching, learning, and respect, and this puts down a lot of people here, including myself. I think it would have been better to phrase this as "why I don't believe in reincarnation."

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posted June 01, 2014 01:11 PM            

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Agreed.

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Originally posted by whitewitch111:
Hey, I'm not trying to start a fight. But to me this is rude. There are many people on this website who believe in reincarnation, myself included. To explain contacting the deceased, well some times it takes 100's of years for a soul to choose to reincarnate. Also this is a website of teaching, learning, and respect, and this puts down a lot of people here, including myself. I think it would have been better to phrase this as "why I don't believe in reincarnation."

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posted June 20, 2014 11:00 PM            

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Where do you think the Golden Rule came from?

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All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

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