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Regulus18
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posted February 21, 2015 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Regulus18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
He didn't save you. Your mind makes you think you were saved because your thoughts create your reality. Just because you found an ounce of comfort in religion, doesn't make your way correct.

And you are the one who doesn't understand the quotes and are misreading them...


Really? Where have I misquoted?

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DeepFreeze
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posted February 21, 2015 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is why these threads should not be allowed.
They NEVER go well, or as planned.
Inevitably end up closed.

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BellaFenice
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posted February 21, 2015 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
**Tiptoes carefully into the thread**

So, uh, isn't this supposed to be in Divine Diversities?

I have no horse in this race, carry on

**Ducks and runs**

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Gemini Blues
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posted February 21, 2015 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would be interested in joining this discussion, yet am reminded by the wisdom of my daughter:

"You can never win an argument on the Internet."

I have my pieces of truth, some of which do not currently appear to fit together. I'm looking for the missing pieces which are carried by others. I'm willing to share...

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Violets
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posted February 21, 2015 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
**Tiptoes carefully into the thread**

So, uh, isn't this supposed to be in Divine Diversities?

I have no horse in this race, carry on

**Ducks and runs**


Right?

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Regulus18
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posted February 21, 2015 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Regulus18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GemBird82:
No sir(?) Are you a gal or a guy ?
I wasn't directing my comments to you. You felt it that way, because (from what I am reading) you fit the Archetype of the typical dogma follower pretty well.

And I know this is going to annoy you pretty badly (or I think so) but Keep in mind this: ==> I don't feel myself as a superior person or smarter than you or any other doctrine follower.

I just think, in my humble opinion, that doctrine followers are actually asleep, instead of being awake.


You were directing those comments to me. Whether you admit that or not is neither here nor there at this point. But now moving on...

Doctrine follower.

Really?

I just spelled out what Jesus meant to me and how he has healed childhood wounds but you have still managed to reduce me to a "doctrine follower" in your mind?

Doctrine is necessary because it composes the skeletal system of the church.

What is a doctrine follower and how have I fallen into that category? Because I corrected athenegoddess? Because she kept referencing things in the bible that simply aren't there?


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venus2tinkerbell
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posted February 21, 2015 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regulus18, I feel bad about what is happening here, in the name of Jesus. And I'm sorry for being harsh myself. I think you have a lot of valuable information and knowledge to share. I really think that there are better ways we all can communicate and learn from each other.

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Regulus18
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posted February 21, 2015 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Regulus18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Regulus18, I feel bad about what is happening here, in the name of Jesus. And I'm sorry for being harsh myself. I think you have a lot of valuable information and knowledge to share. I really think that there are better ways we all can communicate and learn from each other.

Agreed. I was trying to keep it as respectful as possible.

As Christians we take any form of dissent against what we believe very personally because...in a way...when people challenge your faith, it feels like they are really challenging your issues that were resolved through faith.

So...there's some insight into my reactions.

I do not like dislike anyone on the forum, it's just clear that I am pretty passionate about Christ.

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posted February 21, 2015 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
I would be interested in joining this discussion, yet am reminded by the wisdom of my daughter:

"You can never win an argument on the Internet."


It's an easy trap to fall into. I almost printed this one off, to remind myself not to bother. I should have (some years back): http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

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Gemini Blues
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posted February 21, 2015 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:

It's an easy trap to fall into. I almost printed this one off, to remind myself not to bother. I should have (some years back):
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png


Full of win!

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posted February 21, 2015 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
Full of win!


Agree.

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Randall
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posted February 22, 2015 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, it gets moved and then silence!

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Barbiegirl19
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posted February 22, 2015 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^LOL. I think everyone just thinks that it was automatically closed.

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Regulus18, wow! What you've said in this thread is exactly what I would've said, if I cared enough to get involved. No one ever wins on LL or anywhere on the Internet. Aside from that, I just wanted to say that I appreciate all that you've written here and pat you on the back for the way that you held yourself. You were respectful and talked with dignity, on this very touchy subject, even when you weren't shown the same.

The ignorance in this thread is appalling but I must say that I'm not at all suprised. We do live in a world where opinions (aka Internet articles) are deemed as fact. Anyone can look up anything on the Internet and get a generalized idea on the subject they've looked up. It's a recipe for ignorance.

Anyhoo just wanted to say that I appreciate you and any time you took out to write what you did. The world is a very scary, dark place, but as long as we keep our faith in The Lord, we'll make it through. He knows us better than we do ourselves.

Take care.

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PixieJane
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posted February 22, 2015 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Religion isn't too winnable. If religion were objective rather than subjective (and typically based on one's ego and personal bias that can never be proven or disproved) then we'd live in a very different world. As it is even scholars who spend years going to the same seminary school (the ultimate Bible and tradition geeks* who would find us all appallingly ignorant on the subject, no exceptions) can argue each other on the nature of God and the cosmos but rarely, if ever, come to see eye to eye on everything. And that's before theologians of different denominations (say Greek Orthodox and Catholic, let alone a Protestant denomination) confront each other. Yet despite a thousand years of one church trying to convince another church to convert I've never heard of some major denomination say "we've studied it and agree with this other denomination and will incorporate our church into theirs." Obviously plenty within denominations split off to form new denominations, however.

And that's before attempting to communicate with people of a completely different religion or no religion who don't care what the Bible says anymore than many Christians care what the Koran says. No doubt that has a lot to do with why historically religions have relied on violence rather than reason to convince others of the truth of their religion. If they hadn't then Christianity (and other major religions) wouldn't be a major force in the world today.

(*"geek" isn't meant to be an insult, just a convenient word for someone obsessed enough to become extremely knowledgeable and often highly opinionated on a subject as it's not just part of their lives, it IS their life...any subject, but in this case of their own religious traditions that include their denomination's understanding of the Bible.)

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athenegoddess
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posted February 22, 2015 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
^^LOL. I think everyone just thinks that it was automatically closed.

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Regulus18, wow! What you've said in this thread is exactly what I would've said, if I cared enough to get involved. No one ever wins on LL or anywhere on the Internet. Aside from that, I just wanted to say that I appreciate all that you've written here and pat you on the back for the way that you held yourself. You were respectful and talked with dignity, on this very touchy subject, even when you weren't shown the same.

The ignorance in this thread is appalling but I must say that I'm not at all suprised. We do live in a world where opinions (aka Internet articles) are deemed as fact. Anyone can look up anything on the Internet and get a [b]generalized idea on the subject they've looked up. It's a recipe for ignorance.

Anyhoo just wanted to say that I appreciate you and any time you took out to write what you did. The world is a very scary, dark place, but as long as we keep our faith in The Lord, we'll make it through. He knows us better than we do ourselves.

Take care. [/B]


Ignorance is someone who thinks just because they say Jesus is their savior they are saved. That's not what Jesus meant at all and I appreciate you trying to be in your heart but religious people are missing a vital ingredient to oneness and its called discerning intelligence. Its also compelling how you are talking about internet articles when you take a book which you have no idea where it came from or who has taken stuff out put stuff in yet you take it as fact.

ig·no·rance
ˈiɡnərəns/
noun
lack of knowledge or information.
"he acted in ignorance of basic procedures"
synonyms: incomprehension of, unawareness of, unconsciousness of, unfamiliarity with, inexperience with, lack of knowledge about, lack of information about;


You think that simply stating Jesus is your God and savior you are an immortal and are never going to taste death? You will because you haven't got the correct keys to immortality and few do. You will still die while you claim to know God. God is much deeper than what you christians can conceive of at your point of evolution.

Even Hitler said its amazing how gullible people are and how they are easily controlled.

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Barbiegirl19
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posted February 23, 2015 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, agree to disagree, athenegoddess.

It's not worth anymore arguments.

I believe what I believe, as you believe what you believe. Life will go on.

Peace be with you.

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athenegoddess
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posted February 23, 2015 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have beliefs, I have knowledge.
Peace be with you too.

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posted March 07, 2015 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Randall
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posted March 08, 2015 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If we all thought the same, LL wouldn't be here.

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posted March 09, 2015 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diversity of thought.

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