posted May 03, 2015 11:32 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I've used these myths to invent a race of dinosaurs in fics of mine that were experts at genetic manipulation and biokinetic energy that were able to harness electromagnetic forces of both body and earth which was essentially free energy, and because the technology and its demands were so different as were their personality (carnivores which tend to be very competitive when one requires so much meat, but also the most inquisitive, they have to hunt and also smarter than their prey after all) that little remained (especially as saurials fought over land during the ice ages leaving few survivors), and after their creations (humans and Greys, the latter made from dolphin DNA) rebelled (with the humans then betraying the Greys, not that the Greys were saints themselves) then the Greys, who maintained the technology of their creators, plundered it and were forced into retreat (they didn't have the numbers or the ability to breed anywhere as fast as humans since they were designed for long lasting intelligent efficiency while humans were meant as cheap, disposable labor...and food) and it started a mostly prehistoric war that bled into history that I used some actual lore and even historical (if questionable) records.

All in all the Greys looted and destroyed all the tech and sites they could or arranged for that to happen so that humans couldn't learn how to use it and then destroy the Greys (who are wholly terrestrial in my story) while the saurials were forced to modify their genetics to retreat (they would say "return") to the depths of the ocean to recoup, which was especially necessary as the various clans of saurials tended to fight each other as well due to their own (serpentine) mythology. In the fic where I primarily use this they're about to return to claim the Earth in the near future and neither the humans nor Greys are prepared for what they've created while hiding in the seas (and can remain hidden no longer). So I suppose I've drawn upon the same sources as Lovecraft...and even Land of the Lost.

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Would the Greys share some of the saurial's DNA, as well, I wonder?

If so, sounds plausible to me.

I've always thought the 'Greys' were terrestrial, anyway (even if

they are in and out of 3rd).. just clever.

And ancient.

You're truly a creative, by any standard... interesting stuff.

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posted May 04, 2015 01:22 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
but I will point out virtually all mythologies include a serpent, typically an ouroboros of some kind. Sometimes it was before all and sometimes it was born from "chaos." But thing was it was once EVERYTHING, it's another view of the cosmos (modern day scholars think our prehistoric ancestors were inspired by the snake that shed its own skin, went down into the earth and emerged again, that it must have been magical and metaphorically symbolic to them). It's interesting that in the many of the myths where the gods (or equivalent) take over by usurping others they typically imprison or destroy the great serpent (perhaps shades of suppressing snake worshipers with a new, typically patriarchal, religion?).

Sorry, I didn't see right away that there were two parts.

I tend to think it's a retelling of the same story, with the usual

variations you might find in, say, a game of Telephone-- the original

message is always altered by the time it gets to the last person...

still the same story, though.

But I don't know why *modern scholars* insist on finding a rational

explanation for what is obviously an irrational thing- not untrue, mind

you-- just outside the bounds of rational explanation.

I don't think a snake molting is religion-worthy, personally.

And yes, the Judeo-Christian account also similarly states that the fallen or

the 'sons of God' (B’nai Ha Elohim) were banished and chained in Sheol, prior

to the flood, until the day of judgment.

(I also think that is pivotal-- not just another story in the OT.

And having a re-read (and re-pondered) with this is mind..

it just makes more sense.)

A foreshadowing, sure-- the patriarchal religions DID take over.

But androgyny rules, so it kind of makes sense-- two sides, same damned coin. :/

[QUOTE]I'm only aware of a few that still consider the serpent a hero (or antihero in some cases) though even many of the myths that demonize serpents (including Christianity) it remains a symbol of wisdom, though as Morpheus told Neo, "I didn't say it would be easy, Neo. I just said it would be the truth."

The point being that even as a sinister being the serpent is still portrayed as a bringer of wisdom (and an end to innocence) similar to Neo in the Matrix he showed the people what the Agents/Archons/Whatever didn't want humanity to know. Not to say that truth or learning is an easy experience and can be downright painful.

Serpents, dragons, and even leviathans continued in the Bible and early Christian tradition such as St. George and the dragon, for example, or St. Patrick driving the snakes from Ireland, though whether this was the killing of truth/wisdom or the defeat of evil is, I suppose, open to interpretation.

But nevertheless the stories endured and they changed into stories today of shapeshifting lizards and even reboots of the Anunnaki (note that from the original myths the gods and known universe were created from the remains of Tiamat who is often portrayed as a dragon, perhaps being referenced in the Bible as the Leviathan).

Interesting enough the tales of Merlin and King Arthur have either dragons or mystical lady beneath the lakes rather than seas (and many strange and even frightening encounters were attributed to lakes of the Celtic islands, at least the ones in the wild).

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True.

Maybe it was banishing Celt/Druid paganism, in the case of

Catholicism and St Patrick- or greatly minimizing, anyway.

I had to look up the story of St George.. it seems to be the

classic fairytale of slaying the dragon so the Princess doesn't

have to be sacrificed to said dragon (or worse, married to an

ugly prince).

But human sacrifice always seems to surface, when it comes to the

serpent; so much so that it seems like it *must* be rooted in truth.

All of it really, to some extent-- not just the sacrifices.

Whether one perceives it as an imparting of wisdom/knowledge or an

exploitation (he's crafty) of our lack, thereof--

*sigh*

That's probably another thread.

That the stories continue today, as you mentioned, in accounts of

the shape shifting reptilians, genetic manipulation (Anunnaki)...

Soo close: Acts 3:19

... only reinforce that, imo.

"... it was once EVERYTHING"

It's everywhere, so imagine it still is.

Sidenote: Have you noticed that the spiral or vortex symbol often

accompanies the serpent in petroglyphs around the world?

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posted May 25, 2015 12:59 AM            

Fun

posted May 30, 2015 01:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
Some random famous people (and not so famous) giving their take on The Cthulhu Mythos
http://youtu.be/h0DT5e33aMA ~ 7min video

Fun

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Beginning @5:22

'A mad English theorist, named George Haye...'

My money's on that guy.

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posted May 30, 2015 03:18 AM            

In which case, we may just be one Cthulhu Plushie away from the inevitable

posted May 31, 2015 09:00 PM            

Adorbs! lol

posted June 01, 2015 08:34 PM            

or didn't you know? o____O

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posted June 02, 2015 04:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I thought it was a water creature?

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posted June 05, 2015 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Well, maybe the babies can fly.

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Bite your tongue, Randall.

posted June 08, 2015 12:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
How would the parents deal with flying babies?

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Idk... how would any parent deal with a child prodigy?

Then again-- it kind of puts a new spin on the whole

"Locust" thing, doesn't it? o____O

posted June 10, 2015 10:36 AM            

The locusts from the abyss.