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ikja
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posted July 22, 2015 04:40 AM              Reply w/Quote
Does anyone on Lindaland classify themselves as a Bhuddist?

I'm really interested in finding out more about this religion. I grew up as a Christian, although I do not necessary renounce the existence of a Christian God... I do think that my life journey has taken me down a road which has prompted me to question how I relate to Christianity and its principles. It just doesn't feel like a religion that accommodates me, who I am and what I've been through.

From what I understand, Buddhism involves meditation and a journey of self enlightenment; which I feel that I can relate to more - especially after the last few years that I've had. I'm definitely more 'of the earth' and spiritual.

However, does anyone else have any tips or suggestions for me to learn more about Buddhism?

Thanks in advance x

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Charmaine
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posted July 22, 2015 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charmaine        Reply w/Quote
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posted July 22, 2015 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91        Reply w/Quote
I am a christian and I'm very fond of The Buddha and his message. One of the first things you need to understand is Buddhism is more of a philosophy than a religion. The Buddha had a philosophy that people can live by to find peace and happiness, nothing more nothing less. None of the Buddha's teachings are incompatible with any religion as far as I can tell. And if you read about the Buddha's life you will see that there are many similarities between his and Jesus's life and teachings. Buddhism and Christianity are not incompatible and it could even be argued that they compliment each other nicely.

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ikja
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posted July 22, 2015 05:27 AM              Reply w/Quote
Thanks AG!

I didn't even realise this forum existed lol! Now I know!

It definitely sounds like they are compatible. However, I think that the people I've been around have kind of "put me off" Christianity; as it seems that the goal on Christianity is "perfection" and I'm not really comfortable with that.

Not too sure why, but I feel like if I were to recommit myself as a Christian, I would always be destined to fail because my basic temperament isn't really compatible with it! I know everyone fails, but I feel like I fail more often than most and that defeats the whole point of asking for forgiveness.

I will always respect the Christianity and respect its teachings, but just seems like a religion in which I would live in fear and i don't like that very much

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Randall
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posted July 23, 2015 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
Welcome to DD!

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ikja
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posted July 23, 2015 04:21 PM              Reply w/Quote
Thanks Randall!

Feel so strange scrolling to the bottom!!! x

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posted August 07, 2015 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ikja:
Thanks AG!

I didn't even realise this forum existed lol! Now I know!

It definitely sounds like they are compatible. However, I think that the people I've been around have kind of "put me off" Christianity; as it seems that the goal on Christianity is "perfection" and I'm not really comfortable with that.

Not too sure why, but I feel like if I were to recommit myself as a Christian, I would always be destined to fail because my basic temperament isn't really compatible with it! I know everyone fails, but I feel like I fail more often than most and that defeats the whole point of asking for forgiveness.

I will always respect the Christianity and respect its teachings, but just seems like a religion in which I would live in fear and i don't like that very much


Don't forget though, Buddhism believes in reincarnation through many lives (hundreds, thousands) until we're morally 'perfect.'

I think that some Christians that have wagged their finger at you, or friends of yours, have turned you off to it, not that I'm judging or blaming you for feeling those ways.

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Randall
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posted August 08, 2015 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
You're welcome.

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Randall
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posted August 09, 2015 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
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quote:
Originally posted by ikja:
Thanks Randall!

Feel so strange scrolling to the bottom!!! x


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Astro keen
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posted August 09, 2015 06:41 PM              Reply w/Quote
This link provides a good introduction. The site has loads of info. http://buddhanet.net/e-learning/basic-guide.htm

A key concept in Buddhism is the state of 'emptiness'. Google 'emptiness' and you'll find many articles.

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posted August 11, 2015 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
I thought it was more of a lack of attachment?

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Astro keen
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Emptiness is a concept about what exists rather than a state of mind.

Most scholars agree it means that nothing has inherent existence. In other words, things do not exist independently of the mind. This, indeed, reflects a Western empirical tradition - e.g., David Hume.

There are various accounts of emptiness - some of which seem to contradict the other.

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Dancing Maenad
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I was baptised a christian but never felt truly connected to it. If I am to be honest with myself, I always doubted, even as a little girl. It took me more than 2 decades to finally voice it out and it mainly had to do with my mom being very religious and her disapproval of my disbelief. As if it made me a bad person or something. Ever since I identified as an agnostic I felt free, because following christianity felt more like an absurd obligation than actual faith.

Yet, especially in the last 2 years or so, I started feeling the need to believe in *something*. I have a set of moral and spiritual beliefs, but thought they were more scattered and needed some structure. A lot of them are very compatible with Buddhism. The more I read about it, the more sense it made to me, overall - because if I nitpick I just cannot believe animals have the self consciousness required to carry a soul eager to evolve - I find it very difficult to believe we reincarnate as animals/insects etc. That is probably my only complaint about it. The rest has more to do with my own mental debris than buddhist teachings.

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posted September 08, 2015 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29        Reply w/Quote
Interesting conversation ...

To me, there seems to be lots of disinfo about each religion out there. That's because it's approached through an intellectual way. And you can't get to the Core on mental knowledge only. It has to be something that synthesizes then incorporates into the deepest part of 'you'.

I remember going through phases, joining groups for a while and 'walking' within various religions, denominations, and philosophies.

Some I only sipped. Others I went into with complete and whole-hearted gusto.

After many many years, I became bored with battling back and forth ego-wise, and began to see more the places where beliefs intersect. I saw how we are the 'same' more than the 'mental-different'.... And then there are those who had TRUE encounters. It's like meeting people who have had amazing change happen after a NearDeath Experience. Some people will make wild claims?... but the genuine encounter with God has its mark.

It's my opinion that if you're in a religion that tells you to exclude people or thoughts out of fears you will be seduced by them if you were to visit, then (after you've Grown spiritually), that 'could' be a flag. I remember scare-films as a catholic child. It was like training that if I stepped inside a Jewish synagogue, then I'd be zapped by lightning or something awful would happen. (Those were in the 'older' days, late 50s/and the 1960s. I think (or at least ~hope) they are more open these days.) It's good to get a set of 'filters'... but not if they clog the free-flow of love between self and others who are not of your church/blfSysm.


You need your home-religion or practice group. You need some sort of base for group/corporate experience. Individual relationship to God, and a group-oriented one. Love God, Love your Neighbor.

(*sigh* Sad is that some groups I love, don't love the other-groups... No tolerances for style or approaches. I'm still ever looking for a more-perfect fit-- I read this book recently on Christian Mysticism. The author talked about the problem of 'fitting' when you're metaphysically oriented.)

I even took a big 'risk' and 'dropped' any faith at all in a few time periods of my life. As I said, I walked what the people I was with followed.

But I didn't or wasn't ultimately lost...
Maybe I was lucky? There was a homing device inside. God dealt with me, individually-- separated from a group. It was unique, and I didn't realize it then. (Howlingly lonely).

But I was being formed and 'preserved' so I could be sensitive. I knew that 'my experiences' were as a result of Him, and not 'a person'... I couldn't ascribe finding True faith to a church or group, even though their input was very much needed and a part of it. It was God Himself, in the pit of my soul, who raised me up and born me through all the things I had exposed myself to, as well as been trained in as a child (which I see, as a life-afterthought, was huge and important for me as an older person now). (Do NOT hesitate to train a child in 'something'... It's from 'there' they can push from and compare.)

What I found is that the universe granted me Direct Experiences. And the burn or imprint from these experiences acted as my line guards. No matter how far afield I went? I "found" myself back at strange-reference point, which I call center, so many times.

Find whatever ritual speaks to you. Then commit to it. Occasionally adjust? But... Follow 'God' with your WHOLE devoted heart. With ALL your Mind, your Strength, your Will and Emotions. THEN, you will be Guided. Stay sensitive to your Sensitivity that develops. Stay WITH it.... Don't stray long. Seek.

My 'Emptiness'.... got filled up with incredible warmth and honey of "Love" and "light" during a conversion experience that had begun as a dream and turned lucid-experience.

Ask... Seek. A Saint is just a sinner who fell down, but got back up again.

For me?, I follow Christ... And the experience of God, is Beautiful. Step in and cross that threshold into a World of Love.

It's one-on-one, In One Love.

(music) We Fall Down (Donnie McClurkin) [4:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ewPHaPBfA

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mirage29
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posted September 08, 2015 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29        Reply w/Quote
(music) "The Prayer" (Donnie McClurkin and Yolanda Adams) [4:32] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1m5h7d_bcA

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Randall
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quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
Interesting conversation ...

To me, there seems to be lots of disinfo about each religion out there. That's because it's approached through an intellectual way. And you can't get to the Core on mental knowledge only. It has to be something that synthesizes then incorporates into the deepest part of 'you'.

I remember going through phases, joining groups for a while and 'walking' within various religions, denominations, and philosophies.

Some I only sipped. Others I went into with complete and whole-hearted gusto.

After many many years, I became bored with battling back and forth ego-wise, and began to see more the places where beliefs intersect. I saw how we are the 'same' more than the 'mental-different'.... And then there are those who had TRUE encounters. It's like meeting people who have had amazing change happen after a NearDeath Experience. Some people will make wild claims?... but the genuine encounter with God has its mark.

It's my opinion that if you're in a religion that tells you to exclude people or thoughts out of fears you will be seduced by them if you were to visit, then (after you've Grown spiritually), that 'could' be a flag. I remember scare-films as a catholic child. It was like training that if I stepped inside a Jewish synagogue, then I'd be zapped by lightning or something awful would happen. (Those were in the 'older' days, late 50s/and the 1960s. I think (or at least ~hope) they are more open these days.) It's good to get a set of 'filters'... but not if they clog the free-flow of love between self and others who are not of your church/blfSysm.


You need your home-religion or practice group. You need some sort of base for group/corporate experience. Individual relationship to God, and a group-oriented one. Love God, Love your Neighbor.

(*sigh* Sad is that some groups I love, don't love the other-groups... No tolerances for style or approaches. I'm still ever looking for a more-perfect fit-- I read this book recently on Christian Mysticism. The author talked about the problem of 'fitting' when you're metaphysically oriented.)

I even took a big 'risk' and 'dropped' any faith at all in a few time periods of my life. As I said, I walked what the people I was with followed.

But I didn't or wasn't ultimately lost...
Maybe I was lucky? There was a homing device inside. God dealt with me, individually-- separated from a group. It was unique, and I didn't realize it then. (Howlingly lonely).

But I was being formed and 'preserved' so I could be sensitive. I knew that 'my experiences' were as a result of Him, and not 'a person'... I couldn't ascribe finding True faith to a church or group, even though their input was very much needed and a part of it. It was God Himself, in the pit of my soul, who raised me up and born me through all the things I had exposed myself to, as well as been trained in as a child (which I see, as a life-afterthought, was huge and important for me as an older person now). (Do NOT hesitate to train a child in 'something'... It's from 'there' they can push from and compare.)

What I found is that the universe granted me Direct Experiences. And the burn or imprint from these experiences acted as my line guards. No matter how far afield I went? I "found" myself back at strange-reference point, which I call center, so many times.

Find whatever ritual speaks to you. Then commit to it. Occasionally adjust? But... Follow 'God' with your WHOLE devoted heart. With ALL your Mind, your Strength, your Will and Emotions. THEN, you will be Guided. Stay sensitive to your Sensitivity that develops. Stay WITH it.... Don't stray long. Seek.

My 'Emptiness'.... got filled up with incredible warmth and honey of "Love" and "light" during a conversion experience that had begun as a dream and turned lucid-experience.

Ask... Seek. A Saint is just a sinner who fell down, but got back up again.

For me?, I follow Christ... And the experience of God, is Beautiful. Step in and cross that threshold into a World of Love.

It's one-on-one, In One Love.

(music) We Fall Down (Donnie McClurkin) [4:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ewPHaPBfA


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Randall
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posted November 12, 2015 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
Disinfo abounds on all sides.

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Thanks for bumping this, Randall!

I LOVE that song, sooo much! As I've said it in other posts, this is one of the top songs for my lifetime.

Down, or up, or located somewhere inbetween those points---

WE who get whiff of a realization that there is 'something else out there' which is beyond the ordinary and mundane, have BEGUN the journey to series of changes. Starts slow, then can leap!

Life... Cultivate a Deep Honoring for your self and Self, and the things around you, and others catch the rhythm. We resonate, like tuning-forks... We hurt, we grow, we Love.

(music) We Fall Down (Donnie McClurkin) [4:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ewPHaPBfA

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