posted October 09, 2015 03:19 PM            

Well, Faith. I walked up to those front doors, opened it, and found some people practicing their Music for Christmas!!

Sing it!!! Sing it!!!

posted October 10, 2015 09:49 PM            

I just walked into that church and thought I heard....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KK6sMo8NBY

...but...maybe not?

posted October 10, 2015 10:20 PM            

I went to Paris with my sister when I was 16, to visit our brother who was studying in nearby Switzerland. My brother and sister decided to visit Notre Dame, but the place creeped me out for some reason I could not explain. So I stayed at the hotel.

I just decided to see what the interior looks like (since I don't know) and here it is...

Ok.

I coulda handled that. But the cray cray on the outside?

^^ And the whole crowd gaping at you.

I just don't get it.

posted October 12, 2015 09:32 AM            

After I posted those pics I went to sleep and had a horrible nightmare about a situation similar to the French Revolution. (In which I was trapped in a huge room, like a palace, with a crowd of invaders intent on beheading me...I'm leaving out the gory parts.)

I don't know why I didn't want to go to Notre Dame as a kid, except that the thought of it gave me the willies.

I will post better pics soon, to counteract the ghoul here!

posted October 12, 2015 04:59 PM            

Let's cleanse this energy, yes?

posted October 13, 2015 10:43 PM            

Thank you, mirage.

I still have more pics to post...my grand finale.

posted October 15, 2015 02:49 PM            

If I can be meta-philosophical here (did you expect anything less? ), I look at beautiful church buildings which are supposed to inspire us to think of loftier and more sublime realms, but there's something 'missing' when we don't take that inspiration into the Real World we live in.

To me, a person is like a church too. A House of Praise, A House of Love with arms hands, Heart, legs and feet. We need to take what we sublimely download into our souls and spirits from visits to the Church/Temple/ForestYards, and to walk that out in our daily lives. We dip our paintbrushes in the Beauty that is there for us to tap or behold within us, in order to help create and bring that into relationships in our real worlds.

You have been married successfully to your husband. So much respect is due you. There are times where shifts and changes happen, where one part of the pair is less present sometimes--- But you both made covenant, undying commitment to each other.

I know that sometimes (within the astrology community) you hear zealous things that sound alarming and threatening (news of impending cut-offs, blowups, breakups). Makes me wonder what service (or harm) they are doing to marriages sometimes. You can have someone you cohabitate with, but a MARRIAGE?-- That's something different, and should be respected and properly supported as much as possible (barring abuse).

You & your hubby, Faith, both have had success in the wake of real dire trials and tribulations. When you both decided that your Covenant Word IS your Bond, it became a protection for you. You both can always get those moments of waking up in your relationship, and in those times, you realize how you both WANT to resurrect what you came together to have in the first place-- and even make it even better and stronger. Renewal is always possible-- always!

I wasn't conscious at all when I married. But then too, I must cut myself some slack and forgiveness BECAUSE I wasn't conscious, and I had serious wounds (from childhood and teen years). Actually?, if I had to evaluate myself, I think I really did alright... I was doing the best I could, at all times. And that's the way I am.

I mean, yes of course, there were always those blind points of immaturity that needed some of those corners rounded. For me, having my children, my babies, was a HUGE maturing lever for me... I can chuckle inside myself, (as I consciously did then, too), that when I'd tell my baby, Now don't YOU be mad right now?? It's Mommy's time to be the only one in the house taking a fit right now~~~!!! hahahahah Of course, and from a state of loving, it's not possible for a little baby to know any better. They ping back to you your OWN energies. I always had to be the one to stand-down first, then the energy of the baby responded to it.

In marriages, it's like we can be those babies in certain ways. And sometimes we have to 'be the one' who stands down from the heated energies in the room.

Faith..., I weep because sometimes it's not fair to be wiser when you're in older ages. Younger people desperately NEED the wisdom provided by age. How much MORE they would have in a relationship on the Highest and Best order. Wow~~ The Possibilities we miss in our youth-ages.

So in a way, with you and your married-dude, I wish you guys a Heart & Soul Revival, and for a FAR OUT fantastic resurgence of the Love deepest within you both. May you Both become Conscious of what Possibility is there... There is nothing so nurturing and fortifying as a strong solid loving relationship free from prolonged strife.

(Not that you said 'really' that there were hassles-- I just understand the ins and outs of being in a daily life relationship.

The (non-romantic) relationship I have with rm has a feature to it that I treasure and would want to have in any new relationship I'd attract-- There is a Kindness and peace between us. We both value a flowing home-atmosphere. What's missing is emotional and physical intimacy (touch or hugs), because we are not here for that (at least, it's not him, and I'm 'here' not getting those important needs met).

Some things we really had to work at in the beginning. He had impulsive and very explosive anger blowups. His workplace forced him into therapy (anger management).

With me?, it was eggshell frightening because I had grown up in a house where my mother blew out of control on whims. It took about 4 years+ for rm to have his reactions come under control. And it took everything in me to master not freaking out when I'd see signs of him about to boil-over. (I had actually contacted a domestic violence counselor, with a code-word in place-- he knew that! After several years, things were okay.)

I don't mind it if/when people are angry or ranting-- as long as I am not their personal "target." I had a job where I used to sooth irate construction guys, and they trusted me.

One day in the first week of my time in that employ, one man decided to verbally rip me apart (when it wasn't ME at all). So, I told him that, and said for him to call back when he could have a regular talk, then I 'hung up' on him. Well ~jawdrop & omg, I thought I was about to get fired from my job for doing that. I was yelled at by both boss and coworker...

But you know what happened?, that dude called me back later and apologized, and over the next year we had the best working relationship of all my customers. I really didn't mind angry at all-- it was energizing. What I minded was ME being verbally ripped and attacked.

My coworker gave me her advice to just keep-saying uh-huh, then to pull the phone from your ears and not listen (or be affected by) the rant. (If I was that customer and knew that was happening, it would have further infuriate me.)

To me, if that person needed to vent, and took the energy to call and try to communicate with me?, then I DID listen to every single word. I was able to help solve or correct some problems at times, and for other times, it was the service of some human empathy... You don't ignore-- but then, you don't take abuse either. LOL

So anyways! (This is probably a long post)-- for my "church building" today, I offer the song about individuals 'being' that house or structure, in relationship to an Other.

posted October 16, 2015 02:58 PM            

Thank you! I love reading these long posts, mirage...you're always so enthralling.

Thanks for the House of Love song...wow, I don't remember ever paying attention to Vince Gill's voice before...I love it!

I'm very confused about marriage, so your thoughts are appreciated and just wondered about. I always feel guilty for being so bad at it. Maybe because I have a husband who strongly wants me to conform to his ideals, and I just can't. I don't know what's really good about that....but I can't compare this situation to what kind of person I'd be if I got divorced, because I never did.

Anyway...you're so nice to be wishing us a revival. My mind doesn't see how that would happen...but maybe it could happen.

I've taken up more of an interest in the idea of God lately ~ partly from talking with you ~ and I think Saturn in Sadge is nudging me thataways.

I'm SO glad you enjoy peace and comfort with your rm. 'Glad you are hardy against people who want to rant at you, but you also have your boundaries. I like the good effects you've gotten, applying your wisdom.

I don't feel like any kind of temple, especially not lately, I feel like an empty field, and I can't tell if that's good (like zen) or bad (like bad zen..apathy.) Today my "temple" feels like the landscape outside, at this country house...colorful, quiet, and cold. I hate to complain when there is technically nothing wrong, but when I lack enthusiasm, I want to offer some kind of explanation.

Is it enough that I'm at peace...that my temple feels like this?

And I wish others peace as well. You especially because you're cool.

posted October 16, 2015 09:49 PM            

Okay, there are a lot of sheep in this vid, so, unless you're near your bed and ready for sleep, Don't count them! Don't count them!

(music) Sheep Safely Graze (JSBach, Cantata No208) [5:35] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIUCRXMM4pE

All that God requires sometimes is for us to "hold space" for "maybe" something to happen.

Have pleasant dreams...

(music) Count Your Blessings, instead of Sheep (Diana Krall) [3:42] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJb-DSKAuMA

posted October 17, 2015 06:48 PM            

I have been thinking of your last post a lot and now it's gone. I respect your decision but miss your text. It was so good. <3

I just can't figure out why people cannot agree on God. I guess it's still like a Tower of Babble issue. I'm reading a book called Only Love, by Daya Mata, student of Paramahansa Yogananda (Autobiography of a Yogi) and mentor to Elvis. She is always talking about the supreme importance and bliss of knowing God, yet she is completely ecumenical...it's as if all Scripture is bound together in her mind, with no serious contradictions. She will quote from any Scripture, AND she'll quote the Buddha (who didn't believe in God.) What gives??

Then I was thinking of the Second Commandment ~ Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.

And some people just won't even write the word God, to play it safe with that commandment.

Welllllll....sighhhhhh.....

That's my whole thing, too. I don't want to talk about God. Though I realize the importance of filling that "God-shaped hole" inside each of us...and I understand that many proselytes simply want what's best for others, they have no base agenda (and you're in this good category), they aren't just controlled by fear and custom, it's an earnest belief.

Yet the Buddhists don't believe in God...yet the way they talk about these higher states matches what is said about being in communion with God...

So my point is, how does one talk about this spiritual reality, or potentiality, the communion with God....without somehow going against the grain of others, and ruining something? How does one speak of wholeness in a whole way?

And how can I read about it, without being disappointed that some of my buttons are being pushed, and I'm arguing and saying "but but but" the entire time?

Ikja posted a great article about Emotional Balance in Astro 2.0 and it got me thinking of my 8H moon and hypersensitivity to BS. I don't like my own BS either (which is why I don't really like marriage, it forces me to lie and cover some things, like a raw struggle for survival, to maintain my privacy and selfhood...well the 8H is about the taboo...and it's not called that for nothing...I myself feel taboo.) So...with that in mind, religion and its penchants for fantastical stories, weird sh*t, random demands like putting ashes on your forehead or bowing to Mecca...ugh I just cannot get into any of this.

But hey, maybe they all found a path to God with those weird staircases, and I'm still sitting here saying duh....that's my empty spot...not OM.

Thanks for listening, and thanks for the music, I will tune in later, I just wanted to get all my thoughts down first.

Love & Peace

posted October 17, 2015 11:14 PM            

Thank you for that, and the cute cartoons too.

Hope you enjoy your Sunday ~

posted October 19, 2015 01:53 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Faith:
Oh no *sad face*

I have been thinking of your last post a lot and now it's gone. I respect your decision but miss your text. It was so good. *smile* <3

---

Oh nooooo! Something had gone kerflunk when I tried to edit. Then after it posted, I wondered if I had gone too far and added "too much" information? So then I tried a third time, and wellll... *I gave up*

But it excites me that you 'understood' what I was trying to get at. ty-ty-ty!!!

I once had a wise friend tell me (when I was in my 20s) that my attempts at giving out information about things is akin to trying to fill an empty teaspoon with a raging firehose!! LOL He had me pegged!!! So hard for me to 'gauge' things sometimes. I'm very glad to get your feedback when I've tried to go deeper than just surface. Thank you so much.

And THANK YOU for realizing I'm not bashing people over the head. I just Love God, and God is my core lift interest.

I was in the shower this morning thinking about what you had said in your post--- before YOU edited what YOU had written!! haha, LOL-- I'm sorry-- I should have left a Heart there to tell you I had seen it, but didn't have time to write, or that I needed extra time to really grok a fully-cogitated type answer for you.

(eh? You like my funky-English? -- I'm a bit light-headed right now, as I've had a gastro-flu for week now? Put THAT together with *the usual reasons* from the 'hood, and literal earth-shaking construction they've been doing on relining sewer pipes here.

Never knowing if it's ME, or THEM, or BOTH or ALLLLL!!! -- but bottomline is a ~strange kind of 'pain' I have to deal with on daily-basis. Like an equalizer soundboard, I never know WHICH will be more prominent for that day or patch of hours.

So Yeah~~ you've got me on a literal buzz (inside/outside) today.

Laughing, I've decided that I'm starting my own new dialect. Sometimes you just have to say-it~weird in order to get some points across.

When you're dealing with the unconscious world of shallow religious ideas, sometimes it's just cool to have new hybrid phrasings, word-combos, and new interpretations for the old that just beg themselves.

Do a "search" for duck rabbit illusion. http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradigm_shift#/media/File uck-Rabbit_illusion.jpg

The same lines that called attention to an old image, can STILL be kept, but with pointing out a shift in perspective until you see what the Other is, and THEN you can make them toggle back and forth as you Will.

Isn't that cool??? I see ALL religious teachings in THIS same way. They ALL describe GOD. GOD is the Lines with the Spaces inbetween!!!

(I saw this Kuhn image on TD Jakes program Friday night..... Sometimes I think of you when I watch him, Faith. IF ONLY you could get past the 'old paradigm' you and all of us have been indoctrinated with, you'd be able to gain sooo much for yourself through things he particularly says-- he ministers to broken women, as well as men, and to entrepreneurs, and those with a Leader position wherever they are unofficial or said. )

ADD -- And Faith, please forgive me if I've put any awful pressure on you regarding marriage, okay?... I respect your feelings and your facts when you tell me that 'it ain't workin' for you'.... I would NEVER EVER want you to 'stay' in a marriage that is OVER over. Please understand that, with all my love and apologies otherwise.

YOUR FEELINGS are what's important~~~ You know what you have to do, and I would support your efforts in WHATEVER you needed to decide. NOOOOO judgments there whatsoever. Let's be clear about that. ....Some men think marriage is ONLY about them, emotionally. It doesn't matter what kind of riches they have--- If they EMOTIONALLY cannot relate to you, and BE there for you. If they only thing in THEIR world is themselves?.... Then you've gotta take care of your needs. {{hug}}
/endADD

*o gosh, I hope this post is going to make sense!!!* LOL

Okay, I'm going to break up your above post, Faith, and address the different things-- because I'm really excited that you understand what I'm trying to get at. I have further thoughts.

Got to go take a quick break, try to get some kind of nourishment again (the high whistling I hear in my ears??? is ME! Could mean a warning that I'd better go take rest-care of the physical bod, first).

posted October 19, 2015 04:59 PM            

Let's get more peaceful again... (welcome to my day? ~oy!)

This is nice----

(music) My Eyes Were Made To See Thy Beauty (based on Yogananda Chant) [3:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZhhmOwK7Tk

quote:

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I just can't figure out why people cannot agree on God. I guess it's still like a Tower of Babble issue.
I'm reading a book called Only Love, by Daya Mata, student of Paramahansa Yogananda (Autobiography of a Yogi) and mentor to Elvis.
She is always talking about the supreme importance and bliss of knowing God, yet she is completely ecumenical...it's as if all Scripture is bound together in her mind, with no serious contradictions.
She will quote from any Scripture, AND she'll quote the Buddha (who didn't believe in God.)
What gives??

---

Do you recall the story told about the five blind men on a field-trip to search for an elephant? When they came upon it, each of them were feeling it with their hands and describing what their own 'experience' is, and got into arguing about 'what' an elephant IS or feels like. (Each, claiming they had the truth-- which they DID, but only in part and not WHOLE.)

Different religions are like the blind men trying to tell the facts of God, and they formed their own set of words or language. They weren't into the WHOLE picture-elephant. And even then THAT misses it because the actual experience is in the 'third' that pulls every element together into the entire form-- WITH the blind men included.

Then, you have GOD... who looks upon us, looking upon the third, comprising the elephant and men, who are each having their own declared 'whole' experience.
It's like a wormhole that continually rapidly turns inside-out and outside-in.... then suddenly steps back, breaks-free, in Stillness and awe.

I love that scene in the movie Contact, where Jodie Foster is in that contraption that starts shaking to the point of breaking her body. Her attention is suddenly stilled upon the simple necklace she had worn around her neck, and was now free-floating in the space-cab. She unbuckles from the chair and puts her hand on the necklace and the chair breaks-up.

Holding on to 'old' shallow (no inspiration or breadth to it) religion can shake you up and kill you if you stay attached and don't 'grow'. I think occasionally that God will give us 'something out there' that we unbuckle ourself from the 'restraints' of old religious conditioning, and we reinvent 'the ride' in the cab if we go for the shiny-thing that God is giving the impetus to reach out for.

As you know, I have had several long-term type of commitments inside a variety of religions. With full-participation (no holds barred), I 'learned' what it's like to feel THEIR part of the Elephant.

But the BEST for me was when GOD himself gave me direct-experiences through a few dreams and a couple visions in my lifetime.
.... (And I've heard some mean~comments[outside LL] that I got these visions/experiences from Him and I didn't deserve it at all. --- Thank You God, for your Grace & Love towards me. God takes the foolish things of this world and uses them to confound the wise.)

Some parts of religions are sooo afraid for their people to encounter other thought/belief systems.

In my lifetime (so far), God has proved to ME that no matter how far away I go, no matter how 'lost' seemed to get on whatever journey I was on, He had a GPS-tracker on me. I did everything from atheist to a contemplative postulant in RC. Wherever I go, GOD is INSIDE ME. I am his living stone.

If I don't feel God inside, God IS inside.
If I chose to believe God doesn't exist, GOD still exists outside my having to 'make' him real.

Saying God doesn't exist is like a 4 year old closing his eyes while he's stark naked and thinking that no one sees him BECAUSE he's got his eyes shut.

And what you said about Buddhists.... I suspect they are 'more' complex than what is presented to folk who are just being introduced to that notion.... But as based on the 'trendy-thing' that's going on right now with the group, God knows what God is doing. Followers are being drawn, sorted, and initiated-- EVERY religion fulfills something that plays a part in God's Benevolent and Beautiful Dream and Plan.

If with ALL your Heart you truly Seek Him, You will Ever Truly Find Him. MY LIFE is a testimony to that. If God got ME, I believe that any TRULY devoted to GOD will be lead to His Presence.

GOD knows each and every person. Each and every Stone in His Building of Light is set into their place AS He Wills.

Tower of Babble?.....
That was men trying to get to a God who was OUTSIDE of them. They needed to learn that God was inside EACH person and themselves. God has us here to 'learn' to communicate and deal with one another. That's real religion... Loving God is easy. Loving other people who love you, feels so Right. The test comes in maintaining the Higher-Road and remaining a loving-person in the midst of incredible cutthroat unfairness and persecution. Fine character is made with devotion to the Right thing, and maintaining courage to stick with it.

I'm not perfect, Faith. I'm sooo not perfect. I have my meltdowns with over-the-top stimulation and unfair agonies. I can strive to keep positive, and keep towards doing the right thing in life? And, the stress it places on my body adds to weary me..... And yet, even though it wearies, I can identify subtle rewards in me for maintaining and staying the High Road. I am awkward, Faith. It's hard. It can be sooo hard. Incremental. Sliver by sliver, inch-by-inch, trying to FIND the Love, the Peace, the Beauty.

And knowing that God's Vengeance is a MUCH more thorough thing.......... What!!????????

O my freakin'??????? WHO the bleep IS THAT???? Sounds like the poundings of giant drums from a huge pep-rally right outside~~!!! ... wa-a-a-a-a-a-a!!! Shaking us the heck up!!!!

Nah, it's a single pimpcar, not a marching band. Lasted a few minutes, (and now I have nausea waves~ ugh).

{I hope this post isn't too bad of a mess!!}

Lots of Love to you.... Keep seeking, and know that you are close to your breakthrough.

I have more to add (based on thoughts I had in the shower).

Love over and over to you.

(music) Give Me Jesus (Fernando Ortega, lyrics) [3:47] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rZ8k9m2hwo

posted October 19, 2015 10:26 PM            

'Love this, and please don't delete anything until I get back! Soon!

posted October 20, 2015 03:07 PM            

You know? You were born on the Feast of the Epiphany, and I was born on a Pentecost Sunday. Makes perfect sense that we'd finely make our Meeting Grounds in post about church-like structures and things you'd find loosely concerning churches(alltypes)/meetingHalls.
{And I'd hope there are other readers who'd want to add their shares too. *Heart*}

{{HEY~~ (very humorously), Jesus loves Cthulu too! *uproariouslyLMAO*!!! Announcement: Special tinfoil will be available at the holywater dispensers located in the vestibules of each church}}

So, Faith ....
I told you I was standing in the shower the other day, thinking about something you had said.

And in a certain Space in my head, I began to see this image form and morph. It was a point of light, that became a slit, where wings shot forth from either side equally, then moved like a butterfly. Transformation, New Creation, New Birth.

As the wings moved, I thought about The Butterfly Effect, how we all influence and affect each other without realizing the impact most times that Our Life really DOES Count. You can't be a human alive here on this earth and NOT make some kind of matter imprint that you were Here. You Lived. And whether or not you mattered to the people you were born to, or the community that surrounded you~~~ You Mattered to GOD who Created YOU for a specific message to all regarding the subject of Love.

ASIDE
If you were abused, my sorrow and deepest heart sympathies to you.... You did NOT deserve that. {{{ }}} The message of Love there was that your precious life was under the care of others who did not deserve you.
You were the waiting Gift that needed to be cherished, valued, cultured and unwrapped-- made-ready for all the Potential you had inside you.
And to a community that should definitely have done something (if they knew and didn't act), then shame is on these, too.
Everybody needs somebody to Love 'em Right!!
/endAside

All the 'old teachings and notions' need a cleaning-- like a vigorous back-and-forth perception-shift (Duck-Bunny) until the chaff is separated from the wheat that nurtures as food.

There's a saying that from a point of Silence sound grows outwards in increasing amplitude in waves. Then, at the point of Silence, there's another Sound that grows deeper into Silence.

That image of the Butterfly Wings was like that saying about Silence & Sound, but with a perceptual EMDR-swipetype thinking about the stuff you were taught to think about God and the actual reality of God.

God is a Spirit! ~~ LOVE. And we have to INbody it. People have Light & Dark within them... Which one you gonna Feed?, is the one that grows. Yes, you can love both parts of that within you, but just-because you find Dark inside, doesn't "define" you unless you choose it! Some people think that because another looks mostly-good that the goodperson denies they have faults. No, You have to accept and love the shadows with overriding 3rd-Higher Love. Feel all grungy and yuk and undeserving?~~~ Let that Higher in you LOVE you.

If you choose to incorporate God into your being and existence, it makes this MUCH MUCH easier. When you can't find Love for yourself or an Other? You can rely SOLIDLY on the FACT that God loves you and Accepts you completely as-you-are.

If any religion tells you something different from that??? It's the WRONG one for YOU!! LOL-- Just go ahead and make that determination. You need to do that EMDR-PerceptionShifting about what Unconscious persons told you about you+God. It's BULLshift!!! Just KNOW that, even if you still feel that wrongness inside?? Know that GOD took care of the (if you will) Price of that FOR you... Like He already paid your Dinner at the Finest 5-star Restaurant you can EVER imagine being brought to. It's DONE. ENJOY your meal (and you can eat the chicken with your fingers!! O, but you eat the fingers 'separately' from the chicken, of course, while licking them... LOL ~~~ O gosh, I'm in one of my ~weirds?? Maybe I'm hungry and need to go get a snack. Yes, my stomach is doing MUCH better today, so far.)

As far as Chakras you asked about, Faith?
I don't know that much about them. The only thing I've come across so far was from the EdgarCayce readings a long time ago. I've always remembered the 'image' I had while someone described the glands/chakra system at lectures I went to. (That was the 'skull/brain' post I did at the beginning of this thread.)

I'm SURE I must be 'feeling' the chakras, but I don't know 'what' it is I am feeling or sensing as I sense it? (If that makes sense.) It was like finding out about auras when I was a teen-- didn't realize that other people didn't see these. In the same way, I really don't 'know' how to describe chakras as I haven't had anyone 'with my body' to point those things out to me--- when you feel this, it means that? (vocabulary type teaching??? *duh, I don't even know how to put language to 'this'!! LOL)

The one thing I found out (through watching a random astrologer once) is that I must have an active 6th Chakra, because of 'imagery' and visions I describe. There must be something connected to that. (And I think this may have to do with my Mercury trine Neptune in air, and Mars(water) trine Neptune(air) also.
(I have that out-of-sign conjunction between my MercuryGemini 27+ and MarsCancer 2+, both trining Neptune-rx 25+ Libra 10th. haha, These allow me to be able to Libra-Balance and pivot between BOTH worlds? *just wondering*)

{{btw, I just remembered!!! Today is Pixie Jane's Birthday!!! I'll have to do a thread if someone didn't beat me to it!!! Happy Birthday to you PJ!! Lots of Love and Hugs}}

(Gotta go do a snack) And I'll cleanup this post a little, AFTER you've read it, Faith.

posted October 21, 2015 12:44 AM            

Missing post...

posted October 21, 2015 01:16 AM            

See the little left-parenthesis mark left on mine after last song I left? I had erased that.

Recall the song that hadn't "taken" in edits, it played 'ghost' ... on and off.

oooo We Got ~GHOSTS?!! Well, they gotta be holyghosts in our House thread-- or it's time to call the exorcists. LOL

posted October 21, 2015 09:15 AM            

Yes maybe this is finally our thread where we just go the distance instead of at some point saying "Ooops! Wayyyy off track! Where are we, anyway...oops, supposed to be talking about gooseberry jam?...But somehow we always get sidetracked into talking about The Source and all that."

Can I just say you are so hilarious with the tin-foil hats and incense guy? ROTFL And eating chicken *fingers.* heheheh

I don't really know how to go about replying to you...though I loved all you wrote...just have to condense and expand in a satisfying way. Hope you don't mind if I quote you some:

quote:

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Holding on to 'old' shallow (no inspiration or breadth to it) religion can shake you up and kill you if you stay attached and don't 'grow'. I think occasionally that God will give us 'something out there' that we unbuckle ourself from the 'restraints' of old religious conditioning, and we reinvent 'the ride' in the cab if we go for the shiny-thing that God is giving the impetus to reach out for.

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I love that. Much to think about, there. I have a few reactionary thoughts but want to let this sit in my mind like a potpourri satchet in a drawer, slowly building up a scent.

Hmm, and yeah, sometimes I feel like God has a GPS on me, too...well, not that I always even call this Watcher by any name. But all kinds of things can remind me that love is outside of me, pushing on me like gravity, and I just have to be open to it, and it's immediately there.

Then there are lovely things like synchronicities along the way...reminding you that yes you are on the Yellow Brick Road, after all. You just hadn't thought about it in a while.

"If with ALL your Heart you truly Seek Him, You will Ever Truly Find Him. MY LIFE is a testimony to that. If God got ME, I believe that any TRULY devoted to GOD will be lead to His Presence."

The author of that book I mentioned says the same thing. *smile* I mean, almost word for word.

I guess my fear is that I will just have to do too much in return, to secure the contract, to make the relationship "official." Like a marriage, you know. It's as if I'm seeing this as something that might compress me down over time. Religion has done that to me before and I can't let it happen again.

I honestly think..."Well if I believe in God, do I have to give up swearing? Do I have to give up any people? What's the sacrifice I have to put on the altar?"

Maybe I'm too much a Capricorn, needing to know all the particulars about the returns on my investments.

And I've just gotten pretty settled in my latest "kick"...this one that takes for its motto: Blessed are those who expect nothing, for they shall never be disappointed.

Okay, that seems like the first ingredient in a really good formula...what's the second ingredient though? Maybe it's the open space. It's where my "butterfly" of patience can fly around expecting good things. ETA: Not to contradict the proverb above ~ I can expect nothing in particular and still trust that if I tend towards sincere gratitude, good things are bound to come my way, because I'm inclined to see the good. And if I wasn't expecting anything in particular, then the good is sweetened by being a surprise.

Thanks for explaining about the chakras...when I had written that (before I erased it)...I was thinking of how cold my heart is. I swear...sometimes I think I will just die of a heart attack...and it will reflect my cold heart. See, I love people and feel it through much of my body actually...kinda in my bloodstream? And my throat swells and my eyes tear. But my heart, you know, sometimes I think it's just plain broken. Then when I pray and think of what the nicest, nicest things anyone could say to me would sound like (imagining a loving God at work), my heart seems to come out of its coma. So I wondered if that was common...wondered if others literally feel God in their hearts.

I already mentioned being a Capricorn but the truth is, I forget, because I feel so bouncy (air and fire planets) and emotional (that Pisces moon)...but the sun rules the heart, doesn't it? In medical astrology. And I think..well I hate to say it but...I'm kinda frozen? Like the Madonna song.

And...the trouble with numb people is, you can't convince them they're in a bad spot...it's not painful being numb.

Well this is a little embarrassing but as you said, "No, You have to accept and love the shadows with overriding 3rd-Higher Love. Feel all grungy and yuk and undeserving?~~~ Let that Higher in you LOVE you." <3

This reminds me of a video I saw a few months ago about the meeting of Saturn and Neptune. Where, basically, Neptune accepts and engulfs Saturn's whole burden...ah, the girl was so sincere! I'll show you...

Rekindling a Cosmic Love Affair

She starts talking at 3:20.

Either here or on her blog (I forget which) she talks about having to cry all the time, to purge all the pain she takes in. It was a revelation for me...though of course I'm familiar with cathartic crying...but her reasoning and astrological basis for it was very compelling, as if to say: this is good emotional hygiene! Trust me! And of course, I'm a Saturn-Neptune person, with these as the rulers of my sun and moon...and 12H Saturn...draconic Saturn conjunct tropical Neptune.

Hmm, but I don't mean to be confusing and skip from talking about God to talking about Neptune...but if I can self-forgive, it's easy to couch that in astrological terms: reminding my Pisces moon not to forget me.

Anyway.

I love your visions and your Mercury-Mars trine Neptune. Your Neptune on my IC if my chart is right! Together we have a castle (home) in the clouds. Oh and, about your Neptune's aspects:

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These allow me to be able to Libra-Balance and pivot between BOTH worlds? *just wondering*

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Seems like it!!

Also I just love your Jupiter-Uranus, it's a sheer emotional delight ~~ you thank me for things that I should be thanking you for, and you mean it so sincerely! What fun! Hardly anyone is really like that. Or I should say, hardly anyone I know.

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Laughing, I've decided that I'm starting my own new dialect. Sometimes you just have to say-it~weird in order to get some points across.

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Can you imagine how much my Aquarius Mercury digs it?????

And I'm listening to this Yogananda Chant. How lovely! Thank you for this gift! <3

His birthday is the day before mine. I did relate quite strongly to his book when I read it years ago...then I read someplace else that the whole story of Babaji (the ancient yogi who is like a thousand years old?) is totally made up...and other parts of his account were challenged...it spoiled it for me. I hate to get my hopes up that something amazing is possible, only to find out that no, I was merely being gullible again.

I'm all over the place.

Thanks for your comforting words about any abuse I may have faced in life. I feel that I've made it through mostly unscathed, just some twisted mental things I've been subjected to...but who doesn't meet those Monsters? And thanks for saying you didn't mean to pressure me about marriage ~ but I knew you didn't mean to pressure me. And I'm pretty well-established in it, despite the spiritual hardship of being married to someone whose belief system collides with yours...hey we are not the first couple to weather these kinda storms and won't be the last.

Thanks for all the music...very pretty, and I like hearing different things..."Give Me Jesus" is pretty cool, I bet Elvis would have loved to record that one.

Oh I should go before this gets to be too much of a marathon.

Sending much love to you and hoping the woofers all die of mysterious (natural!) causes, tonight at the latest.

posted October 21, 2015 08:21 PM            

For our little church house informal gathering, now let us sing.

(music) We Gather Together (Hymn No.312 in the Psalter Hymnal) [2:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6gAE_ODosM

Faith!! I love your post. And I don't mind if you quote me. I guess it's just the shy in me. *She likes to 'think' she's invisible and that no one sees her.* LOL

QUOTE "...want to let this sit in my mind like a potpourri satchet in a drawer, slowly building up a scent."
^ That's gorgeous sense-imagery.

The MADONNA SONG and vid "Frozen"--
is Sooo perfect!! I understand that feeling of having your chest all blocked up like that and wondering for-real if it means you're having a heart-attack... but you don't.
(And just want to ADD-- I'm not deflecting "feelings" here... I think it's important to talk about 'feelings' AS MUCH as having our fun 'intellectually'... I want you to know that I notice that about myself, that I can tend to look like I'm deflecting, when actually I'm in a kind of long slow circumspect approach to it... Sensing and caring about the whole perimeter. It's deeply serious that we can acknowledge a need to be involved in our feelings with equal passion and importance as taking care on a purely sharing mind level-- although we approach this carefully here. This is not private, really.)

QUOTE: And...the trouble with numb people is, you can't convince them they're in a bad spot...it's not painful being numb.

You know, I think that there are 'transits' that can cause a sense of overly-detached coldness. We had some of those recently.

Another God-interesting point of view with asteroid 148780 Altjira http://markandrewholmes.com/altjira.html
This DreamTime God of the aboriginals lies in Pisces 25.45, conjunct my partile Paracelsus-Elvis 26.40'21"-26.40'55" Pisces!! in my 3rd. You have Altjira near your Chiron in 9th. He doesn't move very fast. Transiting, he's backwards and almost on my Sun.
(The t-North Node (meanNN) is on your Elvis, and t Elvis is in blue-suede Pisces approaching t Neptune s-l-o-w-l-y.
You'll be having your P'Mercury re-enter Aquarius again...maybe will brighten things for you? And t Saturn leaves your H4 and enters H5 soon?...I know it will conjunct your Venus, but maybe can 'stabilize' having to do with your husband? ... At least, Saturn is on the upswing-side of your chart once again, and this is good news and progress.
2239,17059,148780

(And I want to say thanks for the Rekindling a Cosmic Love Affair vid. I think you had posted that somewhere a while ago, and I'd watched it. Totally forgot what a treasure-trove of videos there are that teach deeper astrology on the 'tube. So grateful you posted it. If we lived near each other, I would want to do study-dates with you. I want to nail down this knowledge so I could teach it in my sleep! I may be slow?, but I'm deep.)

In the post I did that partially-glitched and I erased, I had left information about a book called the Dark Night Of The Soul, by St. John of The Cross. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Night_of_the_Soul
He was a Sun Cancer and may have had a Saturn Scorpio! http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/John_of_the_Cross

Here's the book for free
http://www.basilica.org/pages/ebooks/St.%20John%20of%20the%20Cross-Dark%2 0night%20of%20the%20soul.pdf
I even think there is an audible free download, but I don't know what or IF there is a 'catch' with that, marketing wise. I know I would want to 'hear' it read, for sure. It's thick-rich material, Faith.
Leaving other links... http://themystic.org/dark-night/ego.htm

THIS one has some pretty cool moving graphics. Explains the stage of Night of Sense... which COULD match some of the aridity you mention. http://contemplativeview.com/night_of_sense/
(Wouldn't you love to pin planets, aspects, and transits to THAT graphic? LOL)

Don't worry about swapping Neptune and God in same convos with me... I've tried it on my Aries elderly-catholic ride to Mass in the mornings, and I think she's scandalized that I blend astrology with catholic symbolisms, but has been being "nice" about it. (I think her pot is chattering, and I'll have to pull back on my interests with her--- I thought she was going to fall-out when I told her that the priest holding up the Communion Host OVER the Chalice in a certain part of the ritual reminds me of the symbol for Pluto! omg)

I thought I was going to have more time here, but I have to go.

Your woofer-declarations WORK!!! I'm telling you, you've got an anointing on woofers and bad-dudes in my 'hood.

OF COURSE, I have sooooo much more to say to you, in response to some of your thoughts.

posted October 22, 2015 01:44 PM            

I'm checking out your links...

Mother Teresa went most of her life not knowing if she believed in God??

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Mother Teresa of Calcutta, according to letters released in 2007, "may be the most extensive such case on record", lasting from 1948 almost up until her death in 1997, with only brief interludes of relief in between.

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^^ From your Dark Night link.

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Mother Teresa expressed grave doubts about God's existence and pain over her lack of faith:

Where is my faith? Even deep down ... there is nothing but emptiness and darkness ... If there be God—please forgive me. When I try to raise my thoughts to Heaven, there is such convicting emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives and hurt my very soul ... How painful is this unknown pain—I have no Faith. Repulsed, empty, no faith, no love, no zeal, ... What do I labor for? If there be no God, there can be no soul. If there be no soul then, Jesus, You also are not true.[109]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa#Spiritual_life

I am so sad for her...what a horrible burden to carry...

posted October 22, 2015 04:02 PM            

It's a pivot inside. You can have religions introducing all kinds of notions. But you have to stop those, and ask your self inside, what do YOU Believe (or decide) is True. Then you live by it.

Rewards along the way do come. (Transits unblock, too. And some transits are spiritually very very juicy ones, as well.)

I think I had left some links in your Astrology of Religious Conversions thread?
Astrodienst had some cool articles (man named Rodgers?) on it.